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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Iridesce said:
Survey is just Tattletale but superior. Like Survey can do anything that Tattletale can do a least as well and probably better than Tattletale plus she knows how she got to her conclusion unlike Tattletale. No she also has all of her secondary powers and Tattletale has become the older inferior model.
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She have the super power of having a good family life, which may as well be the greatest super power :V

Survey's team also actually listen to her, doesn't get mind whammied by anti-Thinker stuff, doesn't get mind whammied by Shard stuff, doesn't try to be a psychologist with any of the study for it (Survey DOES have it), and can most likely tell you the recipe for a black forest cake without pissing off everyone in the room.

Oh, and predict Joe.

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Spidey_phd said:
I am actually ignorant of how Tattletale's shard functions. Is it just a giant data analysis machine? Is it limited to Lisa's senses for input? (If so, I can understand why she was so desperate to access the scanners of her omni-tool. But why didn't she utilize tools other than a laptop in canon?) Can it cross-reference or gain additional data from other shards?
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Sherlock Scan, but sometimes she is written just to be exposition and use her power as an excuse, so it kinda twist how it works those times. Though I heard someone comment once that her Shard does take some data apart from TT's own perception.
 
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I am actually ignorant of how Tattletale's shard functions.

Is it just a giant data analysis machine?

Is it limited to Lisa's senses for input? (If so, I can understand why she was so desperate to access the scanners of her omni-tool. But why didn't she utilize tools other than a laptop in canon?)

Can it cross-reference or gain additional data from other shards?
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From what I know,
Tattletale's power is Sherlock Holmes on crack and an IV of Red Bull, hooked directly into a super alien brain with information about everything on the planet. The way that it works is that it cascades; the original information does need to be available/logically deducible, and then she gets information from that, and then she can use that information to get even more, which she can use to get even more, etc. etc., theoretically ad infinitum.

What stops her is a.) her headaches and b.) her shard's limitations, to which the headaches technically belong. The time limit stops her from theoretically knowing everything, and the limitations lock her into a single path, preventing her from running multiple 'thought-lines' at the same time, and (my own personal theory) occasionally throw in plausible-but-false pieces of info to throw her off. It's not cocky, Tt is, and her shard is set up in a way to take advantage of that.
 
Survey is not super-Tattletale. Survey is Proto-Negotiator. Lisa would want to have Survey plugged into her head instead of the Shard, which will cause all sorts of problems and conflict and yummy, yummy data.

Also: as an independent entity that does not require a Host, and has access to a disgustingly wide array of sensory input feeds, even Negotiator would want Survey plugged into -its- brain.

What do you call it when both the Host and the Shard want someone else so hard for different reasons? ^.^
 
Spidey_phd said:
Tybalt doesn't jump away from the cucumber. The earth jumps away from Tybalt.
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A month into the story and Earth probably would, out of sheer self preservation.

A month into the story will give Tybalt more perks. Gaia was a thing in Nasuverse. And I won't put it past Joe to supply enough mana to form a local Gaia. A Gaia which will then be jumpstarted by a though "*****, ****. I'm about to be murdered by a kitty."

Aisha: How did this happen?
Joe: The planet jumped away from Tybalt and rammed Simurgh on the way.
Aisha: No, on that I'm in agreement with the planet, Tybalt can be scary. Why did Tybalt turn America into pin-cushion?
Joe: A Fedora wearing woman dropped a cucumber.
Aisha: O_O
Joe: For cats it is a perfectly valid and hardwired genetical response to snakes!
 
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The Shallow said:
Kinda unrelated rant which I will actually endeavour to connect to Survey. Clark Kent does more than just wear glasses, he also wears baggy clothing, hunches slightly, and does a bunch more tiny things to disguise himself. Also there's the psychology element of not thinking a nerdy shy reporter could be The Man Of Steel. It's a whole thing in the comics.
Survey actually does something similar, in that she can just shift her "biology" around to look different, turning from a Divine Thinker Seductress, hair as silver as her tongue, to a blonde supermodel who is apparently also a lawyer.
EDIT: Survey and Delphine will obviously look different, so I guess I'm wondering if/when Accord will figure out the connection.
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I actually completely accept the Clark Kent Glasses as a viable secret-identity move, because none of my coworkers who had only ever seen me with my hair up and in my work uniform recognized me the first time they saw me in casual clothes with my hair down (also, ironically, I typically wear purely aesthetic glasses when I go out). and that's without any other changes to my stature or outward expression. I've been recognized more from the contextual expectation that I would be present somewhere outside of work than I have been based on my appearance alone. Clark Kent disguising himself with glasses and different clothes is Easily enough to fool most people. Survey changing her face structure and hair color is easily enough to completely disguise her identity.

The fact of the matter is that most people aren't nearly as perceptive as they'd have you believe, and I'd go so far as to say that most people are unknowingly biased in favor of their expectations (and thusly suffer a mild to severe case of confirmation bias). Unless someone is exceptional in some way(intelligence, eccentricity, superpowers), or already harbors a lingering suspicion that so-and-so has a Secret Alter-ego, or the person in question lets it slip that not all is as it seems (or fails to sufficiently disguise their features); they will not notice. it's more likely that you'd see people making ironic memes about how Survey, the cape, looks a lot like Delphine Mertens, the Lawyer.
 
Mojave Courier said:
We also have to keep in mind that to most people, Superman probably doesn't have a secret identity. I mean, him being an alien is public knowledge. So, to most people, he's pr[bably just Superman 24/7.
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this is another example of people's expectations influencing their perception - most people aren't going to see Clark Kent and think "superman with glasses" in part because they think that superman just fucks off into space when he's not in the public eye, or whatever. - they don't think superman has a day job, so they're never going to enter an interaction with Clark Kent thinking "this guy is superman" unless he gives them a reason in either identity to believe that he might be.
 
MagicalAmbitions said:
I actually completely accept the Clark Kent Glasses as a viable secret-identity move, because none of my coworkers who had only ever seen me with my hair up and in my work uniform recognized me the first time they saw me in casual clothes with my hair down (also, ironically, I typically wear purely aesthetic glasses when I go out). and that's without any other changes to my stature or outward expression. I've been recognized more from the contextual expectation that I would be present somewhere outside of work than I have been based on my appearance alone. Clark Kent disguising himself with glasses and different clothes is Easily enough to fool most people. Survey changing her face structure and hair color is easily enough to completely disguise her identity.

The fact of the matter is that most people aren't nearly as perceptive as they'd have you believe, and I'd go so far as to say that most people are unknowingly biased in favor of their expectations (and thusly suffer a mild to severe case of confirmation bias). Unless someone is exceptional in some way(intelligence, eccentricity, superpowers), or already harbors a lingering suspicion that so-and-so has a Secret Alter-ego, or the person in question lets it slip that not all is as it seems (or fails to sufficiently disguise their features); they will not notice. it's more likely that you'd see people making ironic memes about how Survey, the cape, looks a lot like Delphine Mertens, the Lawyer.
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Another example, I once saw a show where as a prank/experiment two friends acted out a robbery in the middle of a cafe, one of them just quickly taking the others bag from a chair and running, then a little while later the same person acting as the thief would come back dressed up as a cop, when he asked people around to describe HIMSELF every single one gave a different and vague description.

Unless you are really familiar or are actively trying to remember details the brain takes massive shortcuts.

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To add to that tidbit, a little bit later they brought a THIRD actor dressed as the thief to ask people if he was the person they were looking for. 8 in 10 said yes, the other 2 gave a noncommited maybe.

It was actually pretty funny to watch, not gonna lie :D
 
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MagicalAmbitions said:
this is another example of people's expectations influencing their perception - most people aren't going to see Clark Kent and think "superman with glasses" in part because they think that superman just fucks off into space when he's not in the public eye, or whatever. - they don't think superman has a day job, so they're never going to enter an interaction with Clark Kent thinking "this guy is superman" unless he gives them a reason in either identity to believe that he might be.
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Lois when she realizes that of course Superman needs groceries too :p
 
MagicalAmbitions said:
this is another example of people's expectations influencing their perception - most people aren't going to see Clark Kent and think "superman with glasses" in part because they think that superman just fucks off into space when he's not in the public eye, or whatever. - they don't think superman has a day job, so they're never going to enter an interaction with Clark Kent thinking "this guy is superman" unless he gives them a reason in either identity to believe that he might be.
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Yeah, there's this whole section on TVTropes where people have Clark Kented in real life
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Clark Kenting - TV Tropes

Clark Kenting is the process by which a Secret Identity and/or cover story is maintained over a long period of time by asking the audience to go along with a Paper-Thin Disguise. This is also asked of the other characters in the story, with no …
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In regards to Kenting, at least among coworkers you often just get used to seeing them in a certain context and your brain (or at least mine does) categorizes them. Thus when sometimes seeing them outside of the normal context, you just can't make the connection mentally right away. It can be more extreme if you're just not a visual learner/thinker.
 
MagicalAmbitions said:
i'd consider the above post a soft-confirmation that Somer's Rock is at least Beginning at some point in the next chapter

the wording strongly implies that the summit will either begin happening over the course of the next chapter Or the beginning of the summit will be the cliff-hanger ending of the next chapter
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Hey quick question just to be right the next update is gonna be on the 24-25 right?
 
All those people complaining about how he keeps pushing back Somer's Rock… The others worried about it too…

Relax guys, he clearly intended this to be a Thanksgiving Day gift for us! 🤣
 
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  • Apocrypha
    • Joe had finally found out what the Celestial Forge was. It was a cruel trick played on him by some cruel god, everything negative about it were hints about its true nature and everything beneficial about it was simply to push him towards new heights in order to make the fall that much greater.

    That was the only reason he could think of as to why, as he was entering the most important meeting he's ever had, with relaxed control letting his powers run wild, he got a perk that let him craft insults guaranteed to enrage people.

    "Hewwo everypony, you're all looking particularly sussy today you bakas, UWU".

    Jumpchain abilities this chapter:

    Tools of the trade (Marvel) 300:
    You can craft guns, swords, explosives, personal teleporters, and cool super suits, everything you need to take out a target quick, easy, and with style. For your suit I recommend red so bad guys don't see you bleed, or depending on your mental fortitude brown.

    Merc With a Mouth (Marvel) Free:
    Everyone knows the easiest opponent to defeat is an uncontrollably angry one, and that's exactly what this perk allows you to do.
    This perk gives you a mouth as big as your skills and allows you to give your opponent unfathomable amounts of rage and can even work on multiple opponents with one sentence. Remember,
    With Great Power come Great Irresponsibility.
     
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    • What we really need is a short PHO aside with Tybalt's first posts. I bet his presentation is riddled with cat-puns, so many feline related puns that Chat Noir crosses universes just to take notes.
     
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