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AdvenTheThird said:
Every time I see Aisha, I'm liking her less and less.
Like, I get that she's an excitable young lady, but why the hell is every second sentence about Princess Gwenevere or Web of Magic?

Like, doesn't she have any other personality traits other than 'fan of Princess Gwenevere' ?
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.......I mean, have you ever talked with a Fate fan for more than five minutes when the topic comes up?:V

I will admit that for a second there I was confusing Roy with his son, freaking similar sounding names. And the unpowered continue to be the voice of reason. Sometimes.

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Not sure what unicorn attack has to do with crafting but sure that sounds hilarious. I'm a little glad no one made the obvious joke of Aisha riding Joe. It would be in poor taste.
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Everyone thought it, hell, I was already thinking about many "giving riding the pony/unicorn another meaning" jokes, but then I remembered this isn't QQ.

So instead I will make the more family friendly joke about Magical Girl Lethe finally getting her mid-season power up in the form of a Magitek Unicorn powered by rainbows made by her mentor, Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer. Though he swears it was once his body, so a glimpse at his misterious past was given. Also maybe necromancy.

Now if only she could combine with the zoidnicorn for a super form, or the zoidnicorn could fuse with a bigger zoidnicorn for a power up and giant mecha battle like in on of the animes, you know, for the season finale asspull power-up.
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LordRoustabout said:
Survey did not appreciate Fleet pointing out the fact that less focus on development of her primary iteration and more emphasis on remote operation could have allowed a functional parallel iteration to operate on the motoroid, rather than the current near impossibility of scaling down her program for transfer outside of either the system core or cybertonium based remote processors.

Apparently, commenting on matters of size relating to someone of the female gender was a socially unacceptable behavior, though Aisha did find it immensely entertaining when the situation was explained to her. Survey elected to contact Apeiron directly for mediation of the matter, though he was already considerably pressed by recent events and the forced withdrawal from his earlier commitment.
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You can be certain that your AI child has achieved full sentience when she comes whining to you that her big brother called her fat.


LordRoustabout said:
There were some parallels to Aisha's current situation, but for greater accuracy her mother would need to have died in a riding accident, leaving her father distraught and opposed to equestrian pursuits. There would also need to be some form of financial or legal threat to either the ownership of the horse of the ranch which could be resolved by attaining victory in a horse-related competition. Additionally, the presence of a considerably wealthy girl of similar age acting as a rival for either ownership of the horse or victory in the horse-related competition would be a necessary component.

Regrettably, despite Apeiron's considerable resources, it was unlikely he would be able to provide these elements. By all accounts, Aisha's mother had no interest in riding, Apeiron was highly defensive of his Workshop and all vehicles there in, and while Brockton Bay had numerous individuals of considerable financial means, the probability of any of them to provide a meaningful rivalry to Aisha and thus increase the perceived strength of her bond with the Iota vehicle was highly unlikely.
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I loved this internal monologue.


LordRoustabout said:
Fleet noted that most 'horse girl movies' centered around the pursuit of an emotional bond with an animal regarded as an archaic rather than primary method of transportation. They did not typically include the development of a connection with an equestrian form hybrid robot A.I. capable of supersonic speeds and bearing considerable offensive abilities. Fleet felt he might enjoy the genre if it featured more scenarios of that nature.
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I completely agree with Fleet here. One of the Joes needs to take their 20% time and produce such a film for the next movie night.


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"You know how unicornium is powered by rainbows?" Aisha nodded while demonstrating nervous body language. "And you know how we have a rainbow of new colors from the Prismatic Laboratory?"

Aisha's eyes widened as she seemed to deduce the nature of the proposed project. "Fuck. What would that even do?"

"No idea." He admitted. "Some of those colors you can't even perceive properly. They literally can't stay in your mind. I think Garment has a different sense of them than anyone else, and she's convinced it would look fantastic. I can't even imagine where you'd be able to safely test something like that."
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The pot at the end of that rainbow is filled with lots of G̶̝͙̻͓̊̉̊̌̂̕̕͝͝͠͠͠ő̸̘͎̼̺̰͔̖̮̬̜̺̣̇͋͗̎̈̅͐̓͘ͅl̷̡̢̧̧̳̣̩͍͕̦̪̙̽̿̆͐̏̃̆̀͘͠ī̴̛̛̠͚͈̙̫̺͍͔̐͑͛͂̾̐̍͗͐͘͝͠ḑ̸̡̣͎͓̥̯̼̓̐̽̾̇̍̓̔̋͘͠͠ḇ̵̨̻̤̦̱̼̙͇̙̯̥̩̔̇̑͐̄͗̏̽̔͋̄̎̚͜͜ï̶̳̟̰̊̃͒́̓́̈̀̓̕̚r̷͉̪̙͔͈͖̮̥͇̫̪͈̀̊̿̄̿̑̂̍̀̏̚͜͝ͅţ̷̢̗̥̟̫̮͉̍̄̅̈̏̅̆̓͑͒͝͠ ̵̺͚̬͇͖̤̤̳̭̻̾͑͊̂̃͜R̷̼͖̥̘͆̏̃̆͋͝ę̴̡̝͔̫̖̫̝̹͐͛̾̒͆̕͝͝͠f̸̧̟̜̺̈̓̅̐͂̀̄̓̈́̔͘͠ò̷̢̙̯̬͇͇̼̝̲̫͉̇͆̒̾͆̊͗̀̚̕̕͠͝m̷̡͕̬̬̩̙̲̳̟͊̎́̂̽͒͊̂͘ͅă̸̡̡̝͙̣͔͓͈̲͕̩̤̣͛̇͌̂̓̌̎͒t̷̢͇̲̙͍͇̮͔̓̀̓̌͘͜h̴͇̰̾͝į̵͕̪̼͍̠͍͉̽̅́͗͐̐͋̊̎̌̈́͝s̷̘̤̎̅̃̏͜͠͝n̴̠̘̓̉̚į̶̗̘̟̝̦̓́̊̈́̽͐͛͛̈́̕ư̵̧̗̬͓̗͓͉̓̌̔̊͐̐͂͐̾͂̊̚͝m̸̛͙͖̱͍͇͎͛͛͑̆̎͜
 
Hydraphur Trader said:
Question. What prevents Joe from building ultra-secure teleportation in the Workshop
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At this point, the Author. The author is what's stopping Joe from building anything. There's a reason most Celestial forge fics are finished right about now, while this one is barely a twentieth of its way through Canon Worm's timeline.
Why doesn't Joe make himself literally invincible armor at this point, now that he's seen and survived an Annihilator level attack from March? The Author.
Why doesn't Joe just leave his shitty family behind or use some sort of remote 'forget me' effect on them? The Author.
Why doesn't Joe have the entire city canvased under invisible tinker drones in the sky like the ones the Protoss use? The Author.
Why doesn't Joe build instant teleport anywhere tech? The Author.
 
So, questions on the Zoids?

They were once Living bodies before being made robotic.

They once had a gender and other body functions?

I mean, the body ignores the need to piss or otherwise?

I am surprised someone did not make a comment about "Farting Rainbows" just to be crass. Unless it is an omake topic?
 
Ah, Saint, you poor rube.

Piggot's a Cauldron patsy, news at eleven. Too bad the pre-Parahuman authorities have zero power. I'm really glad Mpπplayer is writing a 'CIA claws back from the brink with alien public broadcasting' story. Most fanfic writers don't have many competent non-parahumans. Canon was actually way better with that.

Uppercrust using his cane as a full-body cast. Cute. Still think Apeiron should slip Uppercrust a few scry-blocker blackboxes he can slot into his city shields when he goes for his next maintainance circuit.

Aisha is best kid sidekick. Running into Brian as Grue will be hilarious. The kids are growing up so fast. Survey and Fleet are fussy and chill older brother and sister to hyperactive Tetra and ever-ignored little Matrix. Thankfully auntie Garment can babysit.

And the Motoroid is in Shardspace!!! Muhuhaha.
Time to go full Commander!
The experiment is not only out of the petri dish, it's under Scion's skin, multiplying exponentially, and has a full A.I. that will devour Scion from the inside if he ever manages to kill Apeiron and/or Earth Bet.

Welp. You've won. Or at the very least Scion has lost, same difference, you saved the same conga line of alien worlds Scion and Eden would have nommed that Taylor and Dinah saved in canon by blowing up Scion.

...I wanna see you get physical root access to everyone's powers. Nazis or Cauldron being bad boys and girls? Snap fingers, all fall down.
 
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TerraBull said:
I am surprised someone did not make a comment about "Farting Rainbows" just to be crass. Unless it is an omake topic?
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.....That just make me think of Alec calling the now named Moondancer "Rainbow Fart" just to make fun of Aisha.

deinspanjer said:
You can be certain that your AI child has achieved full sentience when she comes whining to you that her big brother called her fat.
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Survey: Daaaaad, Fleet said I can't enter the Alpha because of my fat ass!

Fleet: I just say that if you slimmed down your programing a little we wouldn't need to overhaul the Alpha's hardware.

Survey: Daaaaaaad, Fleet said we need to install a metaphorical hangar door on the Alpha so I can pass through!

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And the Motoroid is in Shardspace!!! Muhuhaha.
Time to go full Commander!
The experiment is not only out of the petri dish, it's under Scion's skin, multiplying exponentially, and has a full A.I. that will devour Scion from the inside if he ever manages to kill Apeiron and/or Earth Bet.

Welp. You've won. Or at the very least Scion has lost, same difference, you saved the same conga line of alien worlds Scion and Eden would have nommed that Taylor and Dinah saved in canon by blowing up Scion.

...I wanna see you get physical root access to everyone's powers. Nazis or Cauldron being bad boys and girls? Snap fingers, all fall down.
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I can only think that at some point every Parahuman will feel the weird need to get into a vehicule, play Deja Vu at full volume, and start racing down the street.

Wacky Races: Parahuman Edition.
 
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PinkShadowReader said:
Is it that by contributing Apeiron to its resolution they have to spend more resources to get ready Apeiron's what-if scenarious in an already precarius and resource heavy investigation?
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IIRC it was mentioned earlier that certain ratings require the PRT to take actions in preparation. This is them trying to keep things from escalating by mandates they have no control of.
AdvenTheThird said:
Every time I see Aisha, I'm liking her less and less.
Like, I get that she's an excitable young lady, but why the hell is every second sentence about Princess Gwenevere or Web of Magic?

Like, doesn't she have any other personality traits other than 'fan of Princess Gwenevere' ?
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She loves forcing Joe to experience some levity and this has become a running joke. She was well named in canon, she is an imp. Besides, the Fate stuff is practically the poster child for the realization that he's pulling from fictional settings. It gets extra attention from that.
 
Has it already been stated as to how Joe's Passenger reacts to the Dragonslayers? If not then how pants shittingly terrifying would it be if Apieron stops the meeting to say something along the lines of, "Your representatives of the Dragonslayers? Interesting now I'll get to see why my thinker power hates so vehemently"
 
Hydraphur Trader said:
Question. What prevents Joe from building ultra-secure teleportation in the Workshop, tuning in to the quantum receiver of the motoroid-Fleet and sending a duplicate of Joe to it, for the fastest and highest-quality turning into a dreadnought-Fleet?)
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Creating a teleportation system inside the workshop would probably stress the SSS-privacy curtains. Joe's current usage of the workshop is"household" enough, but building a teleporter and using it to deploy into combat zones and shit would make it more of a "strategic HQ", or something decidedly Not-household.
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I will admit it's at least bitterly ironic if not a little surprising that Piggot is so out of touch with the feelings of the 'person on the street' so to speak. She's so against parahumans and yet that's where all her attention is focused. The bit about the impact on emergency services is continuing to reinforce the perspective set up in Chen's segments and continued in several other parts of the story about how while capes move around like titans it's all the ordinary people that do most of the damage and do most of the cleanup.
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Bigoted people are usually obsessed with the targets of their bigotry to some degree, usually finding a way to liken societal problems to "those damn [minority group]". This is worsened in Piggot's case, because her job revolves around the subject of her bigotry.
BlackCoat13 said:
At this point, the Author. The author is what's stopping Joe from building anything. There's a reason most Celestial forge fics are finished right about now, while this one is barely a twentieth of its way through Canon Worm's timeline.
Why doesn't Joe make himself literally invincible armor at this point, now that he's seen and survived an Annihilator level attack from March? The Author.
Why doesn't Joe just leave his shitty family behind or use some sort of remote 'forget me' effect on them? The Author.
Why doesn't Joe have the entire city canvased under invisible tinker drones in the sky like the ones the Protoss use? The Author.
Why doesn't Joe build instant teleport anywhere tech? The Author.
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well yes, that's the Doylist explanation for Anything in Any story. This is the case for every part of every story ever written.

The watsonian explanation is that it's a lot more difficult on an emotional level to simply do those things than it seems from your perspective as someone who will likely never be able to do any of them. You don't have to grapple with the morality or the implications or the sudden-ness of it all, you get to just sit there in your chair and unempathetically make comments about how Apeiron should just build the curbstomping machine that curbstomps every threat in the setting automatically.
 
You did a really good job with Fleet´s point of view and how he compared Appeiron helping him with logic errors with his therapy. It was specially powerful when he was worried about what would have happened to him if he developed without help or even malicious information. Really bought to mind how good Joe is as a father to them.

The fat jokes with Survey where funny and his sympathy with the clones in charge of the gloves showed he is growing emotionally.

Does Joe know where the DragonSlayers base is and who paid them to be in the Bay? it seems like something Survey would know just based on the quality of her sensors and the fact they are close to the disasters. The DragonSlayers where always a bit weird to me, was Teacher´s master power so strong? or where they just so confident in their righteousness? I mean, they are taking jobs from serious villains.

The self propagating Dust is going to be a problem in the future, I can already tell. From drug tinkers snorting Dust and giving temporary elemental powers to random Tinkers o play with Dust and their Shards figuring out the new shiny toy via explosions.

I had never heard of Robot Unicorn Attack before, but from what I have seen it seems like a simple endless platform runner. Does it have some awesome lore or something?

Looking forward to the paradigm shift of no longer being worried about the Simurgh and Thinkers all over the world suddenly saying Appeiron is a really calm guy who wouldn't hurt a fly. Thats going to be fun.
 
The meeting at Somer's Rock, Is there enough room? There are the local gangs, rouges/ independents, plus all the out-of-towners. ( Aperion can supply the food )

With the Dragonslayers & Uppercrust inviting themselves, does that mean all the Case 53's will show up as well?

Will Uber & Leet press their luck in neutral territory by showing up at the meeting?
 
TerraBull said:
The meeting at Somer's Rock, Is there enough room? There are the local gangs, rouges/ independents, plus all the out-of-towners. ( Aperion can supply the food )

With the Dragonslayers & Uppercrust inviting themselves, does that mean all the Case 53's will show up as well?

Will Uber & Leet press their luck in neutral territory by showing up at the meeting?
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IIRC there were about 18 people (inclusing Genesis' gorilla projection) during that meeting in canon, with space enough for everyone to sit down comfortably. So so 7 more people (at the minimum) shouldn't be much problem.

EDIT: Ok, I was wrong, it was 25 capes.
 
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IIRC there were about 18 people (inclusing Genesis' gorilla projection) during that meeting in canon, with space enough for everyone to sit down comfortably. So so 7 more people (at the minimum) shouldn't be much problem.

EDIT: Ok, I was wrong, it was 25 capes.
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Even if it was standing room only, because everyone could grab a seat at a booth in canon, there probably won't be any issues with extra attendees.

Could probably increase that number by half again and not run into seating issues.
 
LordRoustabout said:
"New colors." She blinked in confusion as the primary Apeiron continued. "There's some other stuff that came with the place, but primarily its NEW colors. Not new shades, entirely new colors that can't exist."
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Devils in hell: so we sent ya souls and whatnot, yadda yadda, but we thought, that's nowhere near what he should get, he's done so much for us what would he like? and we were fucking stumped I tell ya, you can more or less build whatever the hell you damn well ever need, but then Beelze perked up and said: yeah, but what about that lady friend of his? Garment? she helps him out a LOT with his gear
so here's a bottle of colors!
...well that sounds anticlimactic, it's a bottle of NEW colors! damn straight, no mortal has ever laid eyes on it, this should give you both something to work with, can't wait to see what you do with this.
Love, Lucy
 
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Apeiron took a large breath before replying. "It was hard. That world, all the lands in it, they were incredibly dangerous. One mistake, one misstep would mean death. It was nothing but split-second reactions, constantly, no sleep, cold outside. Endless, like I was there in vain." His eyes became unfocused, indicating a high probability that he was focusing on memories provided by his latest power.

"Uh, are you going to be okay?" Aisha asked, examining Apeiron's reactions.
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It is really starting to look like your taking each power and implying the worst psychological trauma possible. Meanwhile any power that effect your mental state in a positive manner is ignored. Any number of your implants should be able to do perfectly what anti depressants try to do and often fail at. Keeping the flow of hormones and chemicals in your brain in a healthy balance.

Katsujinken (History's Strongest Disciple: Kenichi)
Sei Ki (History's Strongest Disciple: Kenichi)

These two should have had a MASSIVE positive impact on your state of mind.
 
Hydraphur Trader said:
Question. What prevents Joe from building ultra-secure teleportation in the Workshop, tuning in to the quantum receiver of the motoroid-Fleet and sending a duplicate of Joe to it, for the fastest and highest-quality turning into a dreadnought-Fleet?)
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Interdimensional teleportation is pretty complicated, I'm not sure if any of his current tech bases really cover it. I think if he gets Star Trek engineering that might suffice. They get up to all sorts of weird stuff.
 
lancelot said:
It is really starting to look like your taking each power and implying the worst psychological trauma possible. Meanwhile any power that effect your mental state in a positive manner is ignored. Any number of your implants should be able to do perfectly what anti depressants try to do and often fail at. Keeping the flow of hormones and chemicals in your brain in a healthy balance.

Katsujinken (History's Strongest Disciple: Kenichi)
Sei Ki (History's Strongest Disciple: Kenichi)

These two should have had a MASSIVE positive impact on your state of mind.
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Not...exactly. The old and not-so-old masters of the Ryuzanpako dojo suffered from various negative states of mind such as sorrow, despair and rage. They were always able to control themselves but they still suffered them. It doesn't prevent negative impacts on your mind, it does give you better tools to deal with it though.
 
Flufferton said:
Not...exactly. The old and not-so-old masters of the Ryuzanpako dojo suffered from various negative states of mind such as sorrow, despair and rage. They were always able to control themselves but they still suffered them. It doesn't prevent negative impacts on your mind, it does give you better tools to deal with it though.
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There is a world of difference between the temporary 'dispair', and depression. At worst the masters with Sei Ki were quirky, but they felt emotions they weren't overwhelmed by them.
 
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So, a thought occurred to me. I may be wrong, but Joe's power is still shard based. It's total bullshit, but it is still a shard, simply one unchained. Doesn't that imply that Scion is on an equally bullshit level? Since he is made of shards?

Haven't actually read worm, so if it's answered there, I wouldn't know.
 
Scion is unfathomably powerful.

In fiction there might be objectively more powerful characters, but he's so strong that comparisons between him and others becomes essentially meaningless, and moreover, irrelevant. He's not conventionally intelligent. Every problem is a nail, and every problem gets a hammer.

What makes him threatening is it is a perfectly modulated, refined and highly lethal hammer that almost always strikes just so.

But the Avatar for the entity is weak-willed and dumb in the ways we humans value intelligence most. Creativity, all that jazz. No plot involving them would bother resolving his plot thread with a power versus power match-up.
 
So the local authorities are sick and tired of Piggot's lack of keeping them in the loop and her refusal to work with them. Can't say I blame them.

It wouldn't surprise me if Piggot's has enough resources for her job normally it's just that she keeps grabbing EVERYTHING even remotely related to Parahumans and ties up the PRT with jobs that the police should really be dealing with. You would of course feel undermanned if you use your anti-parahuman SWAT teams for stake outs, investigation etc... and leave your Protectorate members under supported against the criminals.

The PRT for highly trained anti-cape cops didn't seem to do much in early Worm. The bank job should have had PRT back up, Armsmaster responded to Lung alone. No PRT personnel to assist evacuating injured civilians or other essential tasks. He was patrolling why do the Protectorate patrol alone not with the PRT at least nearby ready to assist?
 
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