Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

In other news, I could have sworn Aisha knew Khepri was underaged and therefore wasn't going to tease Joe about that topic.

Aisha herself is also underaged.

And she is teasing about the optics of what he's doing.
In other words gently reminding him of misunderstandings that can happen.
So that he communicates more, so that those misunderstandings don't happen.

He's Hephaestus' kid and then Hestia blessed him. So clearly every single god and goddess is blessing him as well because they all took notice after Hestia blessed him and it turned out he was a pretty cool guy so they all started trying to one up each other in an effort to get the coolest shrine.

This is the reason. If a small investment, gets you a major return.

Like talking to a reporter for a major label or popular major youtuber. That gives a bigger boost in publicity than just talking to some random person.
 
This man be trying to hide his good looks no wonder no one asked him out yet
Also the people he primarily interacts with are either provided by his power, literal copies of himself, Artificial Intelligence, and teenagers. So, not exactly the kind of people who would/should ask him out.
This is canon powerset Aisha. The very first thing Joe made for her was a hairpin that granted her ease of control over her canon powers.
I think the joke her was that Aisha, with her canon-powerset (not a tinker), would under Joe's tutelage become a stronger tinker than say, Armsmaster or Dragon.
Either that or Zeus would bless Joe too, giving him sky/storm related powers—or a complete inability to keep it in his pants.
Yeah, there's no way that Zeus sees the shrines Joe is building for all the other Gods granting him their blessings and doesn't try to get in on that. Probably with the caveat of "I want the best one"
 
You know if you are looking for other Unnatural Skills you could use, you could use the supernatural levels of Masonry or Woodworking that creatures like dwarves and elves are noted to possess.
I remember Roust said we needed to make it so its monster skills. For example arachne with weaving. Do dwarves and elves belong to monster races?
While I was reading that section, I started to wonder if Joe might think to refer Alex to his therapist.
Not his own therapist. A therapist need to build up trust and Alec can't really explain 'yes you see, I was chemically altered to normal. Yes, I'm not sure what normal is anyway. Where this happend? Ah, yes I robbed a bank and then while I was on my way to our payment grab I was grabbed. Can you help me?'
I'm sure that will go swimmingly. /s
I'm sure Campbell appreciates that Joe will not send more parahumans his way. It seems like dangerous thing to do.
 
Alec got morals/feelings back from being healed up.
I don't think you can heal morals back into place, but it's certainly harder to be amoral when your empathy has been set back to full blast.
I like the story when stuff happens but at this point it is getting to Taylor Varga levels of ridiculous. A few days in story are taking hundreds of thousands of words spread out over a month or more of chapters. It's gotten to the point where I'm starting to just not care about or even like a lot of the other characters simply because they eat up too much time between important events.
...I wonder if Taylor Varga also has the occasional user complaining about wordcount vs in-story time passing levied towards it?
I've never read Taylor Varga, but based on the (admittedly negative) impressions of it I've received second hand I'd say the difference betwen it and this story is that this story is going somewhere slowly while TV is going nowhere slowly.

One thing I can say for certain, despite having never read it, is that people are surely complaining. That's just a given at this point.
…I desperately desire more coverage of Rachel's newfound love for social media. I love it when Rachel gets character development, :grin:
Needlessly aggressive responses to perceived slights. Falls in line with those of greater perceived strength in the group. Terrible social skills IRL.

Somebody get Rachel off Twitter, she fits in TOO well.
 
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Oh man, wait till Garment gets a load of Joe's new looks. Clothing to accent pretty can be surprisingly different to clothing that merely highlights your better features.

Oh gods. Imagine what happens when Aisha sees him in full pretty boy mode.

Actually, even worse... imagine if one of his family members sees him now. Looking healthier, happier, more confident in posture, and just generally so much better then they've ever seen him in their lives... while he's in the middle of a war torn crisis zone, fresh out of cutting them out of his life.
 
Thanks for update!

I gave him a flat and he let out a breath.
Not like Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer, can't give someone a flat on a whim. Heck, he can build a mansion in less than a second. But I still suspect you meant "flat look". :D

Well, that's indeed god that he get the last power before the therapy.

Edit: Same perk, same setting, two different constellations. One Resources, and One Time. Most likely a Celestial Forge only thing, rather than Valkyria Chronicles jump thing
There some perks in two, or even three constallations, like "Magitek Mastery" or "Feel It Out". But usually once rolled, these perks get removed from all other constellations as well. That one was an exception.
Though, I don't sure why LordR decided to make that perk an exception.
 
Thanks for update!


Not like Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer, can't give someone a flat on a whim. Heck, he can build a mansion in less than a second. But I still suspect you meant "flat look". :D

Well, that's indeed god that he get the last power before the therapy.


There some perks in two, or even three constallations, like "Magitek Mastery" or "Feel It Out". But usually once rolled, these perks get removed from all other constellations as well. That one was an exception.
Though, I don't sure why LordR decided to make that perk an exception.
I think it's because it's a flat boost, not a identical description if that makes sense?
 
I can't wait to see Joe finally address all of the people freaking out online about the dangers of him discovering how to mass-produce his tech, and him just going :

"Oh yeah, I cracked that like two days after I triggered. I just prefer a more bespoke experience for people using my tech so never really saw any point in mass-producing it."

The fallout would be glorious to see even if only on an omake.
"So, uh, I kinda have to confess something. The stuff I make? It's not tinkertech. I know, I called it that myself, but what's more believable, just a stupid strong Tinker or someone who genuinely knows how to build things far more advanced than you mortals could? No, I'm not even a genuine parahuman, that was just to throw the Simurgh off. And uh, Lethe is kinda, sorta my apprentice despite being human? Not that there's anything wrong with being mortal! It's just, uh, you guys are kinda weak and aren't exactly smart and die quickly..."

Oh no, what if Lethe is the 'token human' on the team, included just so they're not called elitist against mortals?
Think about it - Monkey Steel is a demigod, Garment is literally just sentient gloves with the power of FASHION, Fleet and Survey are A.I. with access to a effectively unlimited processing power, Tetra is a shapeshifting alien who feeds on life energy, with only some of Joe's genetic material being part of her as a side-effect from an accident after her being 'born'. And then there's the Golden Goo, being kept in check by internal quality standards it has.
 
Huh. So Alec's brain damage has been fixed and he is no longer a physical trauma-induced sociopath.

Changing his behavioral patterns will be difficult... but Alec is going to have to deal with EMOTIONS again... and I just remember how traumatic that was for him during Warcrafter. Poor guy is probably hiding his suffering right now... he has his Shard to mitigate some things... but not much.

I don't think Alec is going to be as an asshole as he was...

...also, Rachel becoming obsessed with the internet and actually getting her watch to read to her and get her the information she needs. That is AWESOME and also worrying. Heh. Bitch's twitter must be amusing. Full of Doges. So many Doges.
 
Huh. So Alec's brain damage has been fixed and he is no longer a physical trauma-induced sociopath.
Joe: "So, I may have accidentally cured a sociopath?"
Dr Campbell: "And now you're worried about what they will do in society, and whether the damage will be your fault?"
Joe: "No, I mean I may have accidentally cured a sociopath."
Dr Campbell: "Sociopathy is a complex neurological condition. It cannot be cured, merely treated or managed. Anything more would require making radical changes to the human brain."
Both: "…"
Dr Campbell: "So! You may have accidentally cured a sociopath?"
 
I don't know how to feel about the fanwanking of Alchemy this chapter. Like, everyone in the FMA world can learn to perform transmutation but it is heavily implied that everyone in the FMA world has their own Gate, required to perform Alchemy.

We don't know how you get a Gate granted, but presumably your with it rather than the Gate forming as you learn more about Alchemy Theory. And even if it does form based on Knowledge, Amestrian Alchemy would still be impossible because that drew upon Father's massive underground philosopher stone. Alkahestry wouldn't care about that limitation though, so assuming Gate's aren't a requirement, or hey are a requirement but form from study rather than being an inborn thing, and assuming Truth isn't necessary to perform Alchemy; Joe would "only" be capable of teaching Aisha Alkahestry.

So still a pretty good deal overall. There's a lot of If's there though.
 
The joke about Joe's inability to cope with family drama, social interaction and personal life without divine help has become even less of a joke. And all the deities who bless him are women, except for 'daddy' Hephaestus. Is Forge-san hinting at something?)
Well, there are still a lot of people left in the Olympic pantheon, so we will see this perk ten more times. And then all the other pantheons)
 
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Despite how powerful Apeiron is at the moment I still don't think he can kill Scion yet, not without getting annihilated himself.

As far as I'm aware the only way into the space of his body is the portal that is his avatar and I don't think Apeiron has any tech that can get past whatever the Entities set up to isolate the universes they were working and living in.

Unless he can make some sort of high conceptual killing weapon with his Elven and fairy crafting and stab the avatar.

But I'm fairly sure that sort of thing would pretty much break Apeiron to make at the moment.
 
I don't know how to feel about the fanwanking of Alchemy this chapter. Like, everyone in the FMA world can learn to perform transmutation but it is heavily implied that everyone in the FMA world has their own Gate, required to perform Alchemy.

We don't know how you get a Gate granted, but presumably your with it rather than the Gate forming as you learn more about Alchemy Theory. And even if it does form based on Knowledge, Amestrian Alchemy would still be impossible because that drew upon Father's massive underground philosopher stone. Alkahestry wouldn't care about that limitation though, so assuming Gate's aren't a requirement, or hey are a requirement but form from study rather than being an inborn thing, and assuming Truth isn't necessary to perform Alchemy; Joe would "only" be capable of teaching Aisha Alkahestry.

So still a pretty good deal overall. There's a lot of If's there though.
No, this is one of the examples of "if it doesn't provide any measurable prior impact on the world, the Forge can change universal laws by Fiat". Once Joe unlocked Amestrian Alchemy, everyone in the setting retroactively had a Gate from birth (and Truth exists), but no one knew how to access/use them. All because Joe was born in this universe as a regular human, and it's "narratively easier" for the Forge to do that than for it to make an excuse as to why Joe, and only Joe, has a Gate in a universe where they don't exist.

It's not so much an "Alchemy Fanwank" as "this is how OP the Celestial Forge is. It changed everyone in the universe, just to make this type of Super Science work as Super Science, and not as Magic"
 
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I don't know how to feel about the fanwanking of Alchemy this chapter. Like, everyone in the FMA world can learn to perform transmutation but it is heavily implied that everyone in the FMA world has their own Gate, required to perform Alchemy.

We don't know how you get a Gate granted, but presumably your with it rather than the Gate forming as you learn more about Alchemy Theory. And even if it does form based on Knowledge, Amestrian Alchemy would still be impossible because that drew upon Father's massive underground philosopher stone. Alkahestry wouldn't care about that limitation though, so assuming Gate's aren't a requirement, or hey are a requirement but form from study rather than being an inborn thing, and assuming Truth isn't necessary to perform Alchemy; Joe would "only" be capable of teaching Aisha Alkahestry.

So still a pretty good deal overall. There's a lot of If's there though.


Its the result of crossover metaphysics. Like how because he has gundam perks him, and anyone else, now have the potential to become Newtypes, him getting the FMA Alchemy has made it so everyone has their own Gate of Truth.
 
I like the story when stuff happens but at this point it is getting to Taylor Varga levels of ridiculous. A few days in story are taking hundreds of thousands of words spread out over a month or more of chapters. It's gotten to the point where I'm starting to just not care about or even like a lot of the other characters simply because they eat up too much time between important events.
I think you need to redifine important events then.
 
He's Hephaestus' kid and then Hestia blessed him. So clearly every single god and goddess is blessing him as well because they all took notice after Hestia blessed him and it turned out he was a pretty cool guy so they all started trying to one up each other in an effort to get the coolest shrine.

Well that or the fiat backed nature of the forge would freak them out something fierce and Zeus would start looking for a way to off him as fast as possible but that's the greek gods for you.
Well, an ultra-cool temple in an extra-dimensional ultra-protected shelter is not a thing that you can refuse. The Olympians sit in front of the screen and watch Joe's story, thinking: So, the blessings of the female half did not greatly improve his drama, we must add more from the male part. Who do we have there? Zeus with his electrokinesis from the ass and a huge collection of illegitimate children, Apollo with a body whose beauty has become legendary(as well as medicine and art), the necromancer miner Hades, who stole his wife in the best barbaric traditions, Poseidon, Ares... No comments. And many others. Yes, it will definitely work.
 
No, this is one of the examples of "if it doesn't provide any measurable prior impact on the world, the Forge can change universal laws by Fiat". Once Joe unlocked Amestrian Alchemy, everyone in the setting retroactively had a Gate from birth (and Truth exists), but no one knew how to access/use them. All because Joe was born in this universe as a regular human, and it's "narratively easier" for the Forge to do that than for it to make an excuse as to why Joe, and only Joe, has a Gate in a universe where they don't exist.

It's not so much an "Alchemy Fanwank" as "this is how OP the Celestial Forge is. It changed everyone in the universe, just to make this type of Super Science work as Super Science, and not as Magic"

I didn't know that's how crossover physics interacted. A bit odd but an interesting path to take them.
 
Sigh...i s2g every time fma comes up...no it's because the perk text says that FMA alchemy is a science thus anyone can learn it. It's a fiat backed guarantee that not only will it work in every universe but that u can teach it to others.
 
Oh no, what if Lethe is the 'token human' on the team, included just so they're not called elitist against mortals?
Think about it - Monkey Steel is a demigod, Garment is literally just sentient gloves with the power of FASHION, Fleet and Survey are A.I. with access to a effectively unlimited processing power, Tetra is a shapeshifting alien who feeds on life energy, with only some of Joe's genetic material being part of her as a side-effect from an accident after her being 'born'. And then there's the Golden Goo, being kept in check by internal quality standards it has.
You forgot the other AI Matrix; an interesting form of gestalt intelligence made out of trillions or maybe a Googleplex of nanobots.

On other topics how do people think of him I know that Apeiron, The Enigmatic Artificer was labelled a villain by the prt but what does the Norman man think of him do they thing of him as an anti-villain, villain, anti-hero or hero.
 
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