@Daym, when I wrote the post below, I realised one important thing. I kind of messed up things a little. Here and earlier, I mixed arguments about "what Empire can do", "what Joe
may suspect they can do" and "what Empire can
threaten Apeiron with". Sorry, I don't have energy to rewrite that post, but I'll try to make it more clear in the future.
He can still shoot the Rifles or other weapons out of their hands and the Famine Engine could easily be dealt with through the Acidic Mist Potion (what he used when Taylor called her bugs after the epileptic Bomb) or something similar.
Why of course! Definitely that's possiblt. But before he can counter something, he need to know what he have to counter. Against Bakuda he knew what he going to face, at least in outline. Without any hints it'd be very hard for him to counter it before any damage is done. He's fast, and powerful, and versatile. But even if he'll manage to block or destroy whatever it'll be in mere seconds (and that mean he need to get to the area, at the very least) , those seconds may be enough for it to kill who know how many people.
Btw, about Corruption formula from Evermore alchemy. Can anyone explain what limitations it have? No limit for number of targets, ok. But do he need to see each target, of there's limited range, or anything else?
1) Taking into account that the original plan was never finished I would rather not say what was or was not the main goal. March clearly loves Showmanship, but Lung is rational enough to not let it limit his goals and would probably want to finally assert his Power in the Gang again by stopping Bakuda's and March's attempt to draw out the showmanship/torture angle. The Power they displayed in the attack was enough for their Reputation.
2) Given how Survey already pried into the Talk with his Sister, the Wards meeting with Garment and probably something else combined with her recently shown worry for a repeat of the Rise of the ABB event, I would give it not an insignificant chance that she is already dedicating a good portion to scan and searching for the Communication Patterns a coordinated Strike requires.
3) Keeping in Mind that it was never canonically stated to what degree each E88 Member (except Kaiser just using it for support) believes in their unifying ideology I'd say that it would at least be mentioned and weighed in before an all out attack.
1) I agree that we can't know for sure if that was "maximum showmanship with as much destruction as possible along the way" or other way around. That just the feeling I got from reading.
But since we both agree that March loves showmanship, I have to point that Bakuda clearly wanted to showoff too. And Lung... March is social Thinker too, or she was before the Thuesday. Social Thinkers, basically, more or less equal to low-tier human controlling Master. In her case - more like mid-tier. Nowhere near Heartbreaker, but more than enough to talk Lung into accepting her plan.
2) As I said, I don't know how far into "personal privacy" he willing to pry.
3) Indeed. But most gang members of E88 fall into one of three categories:
* fanatics, who really believe in Nazism,
* assholes, who don't really give a fuck about the Nazism and just wants power that membership gives,
* desperate, who don't have other options.
Fanatics will be fine with killing "race traitors". Assholes will be fine with killing period. Desperate
may try to bail out, or may not - depends from the many factors.
Their not really convincing with "if you don't leave us alone we will mildly inconvenience you" (the rest of the world still does not know how much Joe wants to protect Human Life).
Yes. But they don't really have anything more impressive than that and "we have one person that can maybe hurt you if she'll got lucky".
(they saw the translation, though, and know that he willing to accept death of people if he need to, but also they saw how he tried to save as much as possible anyway, so they know that he valued human lives)
Yeah because Apeiron the unflappable sure is going to be surprised by some less than stellar Tinker Tech.
Yes. Without any irony or sarcasm - yes. Impressed he may be not, but taken by surprise? Pretty possible.
He wouldn't, but Toybox haven't survived this long by assisting a dying gang with highly dangerous tech for a last slaughter against a force they couldn't possibly beat.
Yes, they'll almost certainly reject his requests if they'll suspect E88 will try to "cosplay S9". They may reject if the'll know E88 will attack Apeiron, but they may not, depends from a couple of factors including Shards' nudging.
But "Due to recent events, I would like to have a few surprises up my sleeve" they'll, IMO, likely to see as completely valid reason to buy their tech. See examples below.
But you kind of do (against Joe at least).
You think so? Let's see... Personal teleporter. Reasonable purchase for anyone who want to be able to get the fuck out of dodge, right? Right. But Damsel may use one to close distance with Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer, to gen in range when she can use her power.
You said that forcefield not going to help against a level of strenght Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer, uses? Likely. But even a part of a second it can buy matters in a fight. Especially if combined with aforementioned teleporter: use teleporter to close distance, and forcefield to buy time to use power against possible automated point-defense system Apeiron may have. With Thuesday Apeiron that could've worked, you know. Of course, that not going to achieve much against Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer, since he have displacer field. But nazis don't know that.
By the Way IIRC Damsel was affecting herself with her power (white hair etc.) so it is possible that wearing Tinker Tech is not going to work out for her.
Well, that would make things... more complicated, yes. Although, I don't sure Joe know that, so he, with his caution, likely to think she can.