Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Where did this even come from? Joe's Passenger has shown no signs of ever being anything other than being on Joe's side. Is it true that Joe's Passenger is biased in regards with his information? No doubt about it, we have plenty of WoG on it. Has it been shown to be in some degree amoral? Definitely, hence why Joe was so horrified at how blase it was to Aisha's past while also playing favorites when it came to the Undersiders. And can it be difficult to understand? Of course, regardless of what Lisa might think, Joe's Passenger has always been very hard to understand.

But time and time again, Joe's Passenger has always been on Joe's side. When it came to emotional responses, when Joe asked for it to pull back on the favoritism after the Aegislash incident, ever since then it had been muting down the effect unless Joe asked for it. Whenever Joe is in trouble, Joe's Passenger is the first to help Joe out. And most of all, despite what some might think, Joe's Passenger never intentionally sabotaged him. Unintentionally sometimes, true considering the list above especially in regards with the Undersiders, but Joe's Passenger never tried to stop Joe from making friends and allies and from trusting his secrets (even Forge related ones) with his support network.

All in all, while Joe's Passenger may be flawed, it has always been Joe's ally. There's no doubt about that.
He was talking about march passenger.
 
but would people believe that the communications issues are a result of Bakuda? After all, the main effect was making Dragon's mech misss the shots at Lung, and it fits with the ABB's own actions as well.
If the battle was recorded, timing between robot taking damage and the blackout is too close to be believed to be caused by Backuda. And Backuda probably isn't stupid enough to blow up a bomb that will result in blocking communications with her own bombs.
Counter question: How many people are going to believe that Apeiron 'faked' damage to his robot to be able to provide a safe zone for conscripts? Because in said zone Backuda's bombs aren't going to detonate.

"I overwrite the laws of local reality in my own individual, if an internally consistent way, that is unreproducible by others who have their own individual way that cannot be predicted beforehand. If we were to grab someone else, we could probably not get them to do the things I do and that makes a sample size of one for every experiment. This is opposed to your consistent way of utilizing the way the world currently works, has worked for before you came around, and, assuming no one breaks anything, will continue afterwards. Since we wear the lab coats here, we must be the scientists in this relationship."
Who doesn't want to break laws of reality over a knee? I think we all imagined doing exactly that at some point.

However Esper powers are scientifically 'explained' quantum pockets and are somewhat reproducible with technologies and can be technologically interacted with. Unfortunately this has very little focus in the story, but supposedly 'tree diagram' computer is one such reproduction, gatling railguns on FIVE_Over and FIVE_Over itself - another esper derived tech from multiple level 5 espers and is supposedly stronger. (I'm very curious what Joe would make of this if he does get an esper power, but not sure if it's in a v1 forge)

Esper powers is what propelled Academy city by decades technologically and Academy city lives from this research. Magic is reproducible by individuals, but is entirely unreproducible using 'current' technology. Magic is also incapable of mass production, while results of Esper derived research are mass producible. The choice seems obvious to me, no lab coats required.
 
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They will. Bakuda's bomb use a LOT of way to transmit signal (that's why nobody was able to crack he dead man switch), so a simple black out won't cut it.
Quote: The Minovsky particle also interferes with the operations of electronic circuitry and destroys unprotected circuits due to the particles' high electrical charge which act like a continuous electromagnetic pulse on metal objects.

It's not just a blackout. This is a sort of constant EMP that says 'stuff doesn't work here'.

While Backuda's bombs are probably EMP proof, surviving in EMP and functioning in EMP are two different things.
 
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Quote: The Minovsky particle also interferes with the operations of electronic circuitry and destroys unprotected circuits due to the particles' high electrical charge which act like a continuous electromagnetic pulse on metal objects.

It's not just a blackout. This is a sort of constant EMP that says 'stuff doesn't work here'.

While Backuda's bombs are probably EMP proof, surviving in EMP and functioning in EMP are two different things.
Honestly, I would expect her stuff to fail deadly rather than safe where it was possible to do so. This is stuff linked to a dead man switch after all.
 
But if the component that fails deadly (detonator in bomb) also fails due to the particles, then that won't work either.
 
So an interesting idea that came to me, but would people believe that the communications issues are a result of Bakuda? After all, the main effect was making Dragon's mech misss the shots at Lung, and it fits with the ABB's own actions as well.

Considering all the different stuff Bakuda's bombs have done? It is a possibility. She is even much safer to blame than Aperion is to boot. They might want to work with him, and by this point I would not be surprised if the vast majority of BB wants her head, or at the very least wouldn't mind an accident happening to her. She did take credit for the bombs in a massive bombing spree. Sure March shares credit, but Bakuda was the tinker that was grandstanding about this from the beginning. She is very easy to blame, and it isn't like you can prove it wasn't her fault anyway.

At least publicly she is gong to be a "major suspect" for the time being. I don't think Joe is quite dumb enough to claim public credit for that disruption any time soon. At this point Piggot probably doesn't want to force a major confrontation at the moment, things are bad enough as is.
 
So how do we think that Rachel is going to react to the zooanthrope form? Is she going to fangirl? Going to see him as a threat? As an alpha?
He's not a dog, or at least, I would be moderately surprised if Rachel's shard parsed him as 'dog', so I imagine he might come off as predatory, yeah.
 
"You can track these, right? I get that it's nice, but this is basically a leash for us."

"So?" Rachel's response caught me by surprise. I turned to see her holding a disposable phone over the watch face. "Watch? Do that cellphone thing?"
So how do we think that Rachel is going to react to the zooanthrope form? Is she going to fangirl? Going to see him as a threat? As an alpha?

Since Rachel is okay with being leashed by Joe, I'm pretty sure she already sees him as her Alpha. Being able to turn into something that can toe to toe with Lung right before you blast him into space isn't going to change that.
 
Since Rachel is okay with being leashed by Joe, I'm pretty sure she already sees him as her Alpha. Being able to turn into something that can toe to toe with Lung right before you blast him into space isn't going to change that.
I wonder if Joe's "always look good" perks are helping him socially connect with Rachel. I will strongly clarify that I mean this in NO romantic or sexual context, but perhaps when around Rachel his body language and such is unconsciously adjusted to not upset her dog girl brain perspective. He wouldn't "look good" to Rachel if his human behavior were off-putting to her, after all.
Conflict drive might? Emphasis on the question mark.
Except in rare cases, shards do not intervene in their host's behavior on an ongoing basis. Rachel may have been altered during her trigger to be more dog-like, but her conflict-ridden choices after that were her own. As has been explained before with other characters, her natural propensity for conflict is probably why she was chosen by a shard in the first place. And since her personality has not set her at odds with Joe so far, I do not see that changing any time soon.
 
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Where did this even come from? Joe's Passenger has shown no signs of ever being anything other than being on Joe's side. Is it true that Joe's Passenger is biased in regards with his information? No doubt about it, we have plenty of WoG on it. Has it been shown to be in some degree amoral? Definitely, hence why Joe was so horrified at how blase it was to Aisha's past while also playing favorites when it came to the Undersiders. And can it be difficult to understand? Of course, regardless of what Lisa might think, Joe's Passenger has always been very hard to understand.

But time and time again, Joe's Passenger has always been on Joe's side. When it came to emotional responses, when Joe asked for it to pull back on the favoritism after the Aegislash incident, ever since then it had been muting down the effect unless Joe asked for it. Whenever Joe is in trouble, Joe's Passenger is the first to help Joe out. And most of all, despite what some might think, Joe's Passenger never intentionally sabotaged him. Unintentionally sometimes, true considering the list above especially in regards with the Undersiders, but Joe's Passenger never tried to stop Joe from making friends and allies and from trusting his secrets (even Forge related ones) with his support network.

All in all, while Joe's Passenger may be flawed, it has always been Joe's ally. There's no doubt about that.
I'm talking about march's passenger
 
this time granting something called the zoanthrope gene. A genetic feature that facilitated a person's transformation into a hybrid of man and animal. Potentially any animal that did exist or had existed in the history of the planet.

It was a completely scientific way to make a person a werewolf, or were-anything, really. I was a 'natural' zoanthrope, but there was engineering potential here. It was possible to create artificial versions of this state, particularly with my powers and knowledge. Another free, monstrous power up that I could suddenly inflict on people.

Well, with Jozef's abhorance of wet tinkering, we probably won't be seeing any of that. But I bet Bitch sure would love some of it. Assuming she would become a dog type, of course, but I'm not sure that just because it is logical it would happen. Is someone familiar with the setting able to confirm that the form matches the soul, kind of like RWBY Aura, or is it completely random like Raildex psionics? Or would Joe himself just be able to direct which form it gives if he implants the gene into someone?
 
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Yo guys, some stuff on Ao3 I think is important to share.

Alphare:
How boringly predictable. I mean seriously nothing the mc does ever matters yet again and he has to be saved yet again. I mean why even bother having him build stuff if it never helps or is worth anything? Also wow one of the bad guys actually died/ was caught what a surprise, surley you must be some sort of literary genius to come up with yet more recuring antagonists that never go away. I can't wait for round 59 with match I'm sure it will be just as exiting as the other dozen times she's kicked his ass.
Lord's response:
Given the tone of your comment I will reply with an equal amount of sarcasm.

Oh, wow, predictable! It's incredible that you seriously predicted a flying mech battle between a grapnel line using dinosaur wolfman and a kaiju sized dragon with a climax involving an improvised recreation of project Orion topped with FTL ramming. Do you have any lotto numbers you can share? Maybe some commodity speculation?

I have fielded more of this kind of criticism than you could imagine, and unless you get twelve pages of people coming down on you for this comment you have no idea what it was like. If you want to talk about predictability, you have, in the most juvenile tone possible, said exactly what I have been hearing non stop since the chapter published.

I try to keep things polite, but after what I've had to respond to after this chapter and given the tone of your comment I can say I am out of patience. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the 40,000+ words of content. I have tried to engage with everyone, but given the tone of this discourse I wish you well and will be leaving things here. This is not a discussion, it is yelling across the internet, and that is something I don't have time for.
I'm not going to lie, I am beyond upset at this. Lord does his absolute best to remain cordial but this is the first time ever I've seen Lord get this upset.
 
Eh, it's most likely not just one review but the whole cascade to people criticizing his work after every chapter. The "straw that broke the camel's back" so to speak.
Yeah, he admitted as such in their reply. Although for anyone seeing that post please don't take it to mean anything negative with Lord. This was simply the comment that truly got to Lord. Although I'm not sure if Lord himself will be upset at e posting this, but I want to try and gather people up and remind Lord that all of us still love this fic and we don't want it to die because of loud, obnoxious, "reviewers"
 
Negative feedback is much more significant than the opposite. It takes five positive comments to balance out a single piece of criticism, and recently, Lord has not been receiving that ratio. If y'all would like to help balance the scales, you could find something you liked about the latest chapter and share it.

For example, I really enjoyed the Chen segment. It was pretty short, but so much characterization was fit into the scene. Joe Clone's decision to elevate him made me very happy, and I'm excited to see the results. Of course, I'm excited to see the reaction to basically all the events that went on, but the Chen segment was Lord writing in an environment where he truly shines. His characterization is always so on-point. Chen is one such example, but I deeply felt for Gully, and he even brought a version of Aisha to life that I haven't seen before, but definitely fits based on what we see of her in canon.
 
Joe Clone's decision to elevate him made me very happy, and I'm excited to see the results. Of course, I'm excited to see the reaction to basically all the events that went on, but the Chen segment was Lord writing in an environment where he truly shines. His characterization is always so on-point. Chen is one such example, but I deeply felt for Gully, and he even brought a version of Aisha to life that I haven't seen before, but definitely fits based on what we see of her in canon.

Anyone want to bet on how long it takes Joe to find out Chen has aura? He doesn't get the clones' memories, so the only way he is getting that info is either via one of his AIs or Chen. Chen isn't going to be too much of a priority as long as Joe knows he is fine, and it would be a long ways down the AI's list of priories given the hazardous situation Joe is currently in. It could be very funny when Joe learns his clones can and will hand out superpowers to people.

Though Chen's association with either Aperion or Garment will be pretty obvious. He is after all a sharp dressed man, the kind we all wish we could be.:p
 
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Negative feedback is much more significant than the opposite. It takes five positive comments to balance out a single piece of criticism, and recently, Lord has not been receiving that ratio. If y'all would like to help balance the scales, you could find something you liked about the latest chapter and share it.
Eh, to be fair this is how the like system works. People who approve of the chapter give it a like, and people who see a post praising the Chen part give that a like. Only the people dissatisfied with the chapter feel the need to post their criticisms cause there is no 'dislike' button.
 
A great chapter. I find the animal chosen for the transformation very interesting (Jurassic power yeh)
 
Oh God I'd imagine fanfiction would be way worse if there was a dislike button for fics. God the amount of hate these tiny insular communities can generate is insane. Honestly would hate to see that weaponized by ppl who end up having a hate boner for certain writers. At least commenters have to read the fic for their criticism to be taken seriously.
 
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