Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

That's a fucking thing in canon?!?!?!?! Holy shit!

Earth-Bet truly is a shithole if the freaking United States was willing to secede authority over its own territory to a warlord.

Especially on the mainland US.
There is a vague mention of negotiations eventually being abandoned in canon.

No mentions at all what they offered or why they didn't work out.

Perhaps they offered him Assault style probationary membership with Amnesty if he does no new crimes?

The negotiations were also right after Kyushu sank before he ever entered the US.
 
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I read 'Warlord' and all my brain brings up is Taylor being Taylor and telling Military Man Director if it would be cool if the Undies owned the city and when can they expect the keys. And he said no! Not cool, bruh. Not cool. It was totally justified for Taylor to retaliate with a threat on his family's life for being oh so rude!

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Wasn't the whole 'divide the planet' thing actually when Cauldron made a meeting and african lady told them she wanted bodies for her noodle buddy to chomp on in exchamge of helping and Teacher wanting part of the US?
 
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I feel like the coffee date is going to get sabotaged somehow simply because nice things don't happen in Worm.

Sir, this is BCF. Unlike canon Worm, the author is not trying to make everyone miserable just because.

Also characters in BCF are not terminally stupid.

Aisha was ruled out by Joe in chapter 99.


According to the context of that quote, Fleet, Tybalt and Tetra were the most likely choices, with the Matrix possibly tagging along to mitigate collateral damage. This was before Tetra became part of the Parian performance.

Thanks, I forgot that part. Fleet seems the most likely then.

Earth-Bet truly is a shithole if the freaking United States was willing to secede authority over its own territory to a warlord.

The world is desperate for a solution against the Endbringers. The entire reason why the villains are even tolerated is because the gouvernements need bodies to fight the Endbringers.
 
so am i the only one thinking Emma being Emma sold out shadow starker and Madison.
Madison panic text SS what to do.

SS decide to run away like the coward she is.

Piggot send the Protectorate after her to sweep all this under the rug.

with all that happening there's a good chance Joe will find out about everything by accident. if that happens Taylor is the only one that can stop him from doing something drastic. question being what would he do? kick the PRT/Protectorate out of Brockton?
 
Sold out Shadow Stalker... for being an associate? She got taken in by the police for assaulting Taylor publically, the movement on the cops' end towards the Locker Event is seperate.
 
It seems a bit early for it, but Sophia could be conclusively implicated during the Emma/Taylor investigation without Emma throwing her under the bus.
Taylor's told both her father and Officer Ramirez about the prior abuse. Sophia would have been named as the most physically abusive of the bullies.
And Taylor has videos of Sophia assaulting her in school.
Because the trio's minions kept emailing them to her.
 
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It seems a bit early for it, but Sophia could be conclusively implicated during the Emma/Taylor investigation without Emma throwing her under the bus.
Taylor's told both her father and Officer Ramirez about the prior abuse. Sophia would have been named as the most physically abusive of the bullies.
And Taylor has videos of Sophia assaulting her in school.
Because the trio's minions kept emailing them to her.
It could also be the youth guard looking into the school because Danny tipped them off.
 
Not informing Aperion that March was still alive seems pretty stupid no matter the excuse. If they had told him immediately he might have even been able to cut them off before they got their pocket dimension (admittedly the PRT/Protectorate don't know about that if I remember right, but that might be worse). He has already stated that he had plans for dealing with Bakuda's hostages that wouldn't have needed the encryption to be cracked.

On another note, how does March's timing power work. It seems an awful lot like precogniton, just instead of showing her the future it tells her when to attack/perform an action for the best results. Shouldn't Joe be immune to precog? I think that was one of the perks that he had. I really hope that March isn't going to pull the rug out from under Joe again.

Then there is the fact that Victor somehow pulled enough knowledge on how Alchemy/Alkahestry works out of Aisha's head in the maybe 3 minutes that he was around during the summit, despite the defenses that Joe had already made for her. I might have expected that if he was both actively trying to drain someone and they had no defenses, but that didn't seem to be the case. Victor also seemed to have attempted human transmutation, so I hope he is dead now. And a cabal of thinkers analyzing the alchemy/alkahestry outside of Suevey's notice, despite Joe using similar if not the same channels that they are going through now all the way back before Lung died.

On that note, Survey was apparently unable to pick up on the fact that March was alive despite the repeatedly mentioned horrible information security that the PRT and Protectorate have. Information gathering is both what she was made for literally, and it is something she loves to do on her own. They don't trust Piggot anyways, why would they give her any room to hide shit? She would have flagged that the instant it came up.

There are other things that annoy me, but I think those may be problems with Worm itself. Like how Broadcast (Jack Slash's passenger) can communicate with dead/dying shards from Eden despite there being no Eden shard network, and that Broadcast is a Zion shard who would most likely be limited to Zion's network.

Okay, rant over. As I finish writing this I realize that there being 3-4 chapters (including interludes) going over a single day is probably messing with my head. I'm sorry if this came out too aggressively, but I needed to put these thoughts somewhere. I got pretty frustrated while reading the more recent chapters, and I hope March and Bakuda die slowly and painfully.
 
Not informing Aperion that March was still alive seems pretty stupid no matter the excuse. If they had told him immediately he might have even been able to cut them off before they got their pocket dimension (admittedly the PRT/Protectorate don't know about that if I remember right, but that might be worse). He has already stated that he had plans for dealing with Bakuda's hostages that wouldn't have needed the encryption to be cracked.

On another note, how does March's timing power work. It seems an awful lot like precogniton, just instead of showing her the future it tells her when to attack/perform an action for the best results. Shouldn't Joe be immune to precog? I think that was one of the perks that he had. I really hope that March isn't going to pull the rug out from under Joe again.

Then there is the fact that Victor somehow pulled enough knowledge on how Alchemy/Alkahestry works out of Aisha's head in the maybe 3 minutes that he was around during the summit, despite the defenses that Joe had already made for her. I might have expected that if he was both actively trying to drain someone and they had no defenses, but that didn't seem to be the case. Victor also seemed to have attempted human transmutation, so I hope he is dead now. And a cabal of thinkers analyzing the alchemy/alkahestry outside of Suevey's notice, despite Joe using similar if not the same channels that they are going through now all the way back before Lung died.

The prt knows Apeiron is treating March very seriously and doesn't want him doing anything so they are putting in effort to make sure he can't learn about it such as not putting the info in any electronic system. March's timing power is hard to describe and a bit inconsistent since it's described that she need info for accurate sets of timings which she then gives out instructions for but then at the same time you have things like her team atked a fortified position with over 100 heroes and a ton of unchained Dragon's suits only to wreck them.

It's not even hard to get why when you see a bit of it had one of her team members spin to dodge a shot at one point in Ward which lined their arm up to the corner of a building which they fired at only for a hero to walk around said corner right into the blast. Additionally, all the showings such as that were done when she was being boosted by a power booster to it's basically impossible to describe her normal lv.

Victor only got the knowledge of how to activate a transmutation circle from focusing hard to steal it (a rather risky move when the degree of drain sensors were up) because his drain rate depends on how much attention you are paying to him and he is paying to you. The rest is from his stolen from other people science knowledge and the efforts of the thinker cabal though I would agree they are getting too much from too little since they were on the verge of discovering how to trigger the circles anyway when all they had was footage of the flash as the fire got extinguished not even the circle itself.

Heck Uber himself has been helping them refine the technique when his power shouldn't be able to help with that since the actual canon version isn't have the skill of a black belt karate master but only perform 1 singular karate move with the skill of a black belt. Alchemy even ignoring how it's letting him do techniques the shard shouldn't know about has too many steps and processes in setting it up and performing a transmutation for his shard to make him vital in figuring it all out because you have to do multiple things at once.
 
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I really hope that March isn't going to pull the rug out from under Joe again.
No one short of Scion stands a chance against Joe at this point, not even endbringers. March's plan isn't going to work and Uber is going to get himself Truthed just like Victor. No power boost or team up can challenge Joe at this point.
Can we not bring up this dead horse again?
Also fair this has been talked to hell and back.
 
Not informing Aperion that March was still alive seems pretty stupid no matter the excuse. If they had told him immediately he might have even been able to cut them off before they got their pocket dimension (admittedly the PRT/Protectorate don't know about that if I remember right, but that might be worse). He has already stated that he had plans for dealing with Bakuda's hostages that wouldn't have needed the encryption to be cracked.

There's one thing the precog are unanimous on Apeiron : he WILL act if he learn that March is still alive. The PRT are desperate for a moment of peace that would let them rebound, so they hide March survival from Apeiron (by keeping it on a need-to-know basis with in person briefing, no electronic record).
 
See the thing about not telling Apeiron that March is still alive is… that, technically, they are correct. She be dead; that thing Uber is obsessed with is her corpse being puppeted (badly) by her shard based on its emulated copy of her.
We know this and, if the Protectorate had any really solid data on March's trigger and/or cluster theory, they'd know too because of how Flechette reacted.
Of course Joe's not going to be happy that any part of her is still influencing the Bay but eh.

P.S. Is there, any precedent for retroactively changing a sequential case number? Because when they figure out what really happened with March, they will probably want to change her "survival"/merger to case 68 or 69, because of when it actually happened relative to what happened to Triumph and Glory Girl.
 
Sold out Shadow Stalker... for being an associate? She got taken in by the police for assaulting Taylor publically, the movement on the cops' end towards the Locker Event is seperate.
she's a lot like Malfoy from HP. using her father's position of power to do what ever she want's. in her broken state right now she probably believe she can get out of it by saying she is friends with a ward. stupid yes but she is curranty gone insane.
 
So like. Does Vista regularly want to try and fight exceptionally dangerous parahumans? Did she regularly stroll up to Lung and yell "FIGHT ME" only for somebody else to drag her away?
 
So like. Does Vista regularly want to try and fight exceptionally dangerous parahumans? Did she regularly stroll up to Lung and yell "FIGHT ME" only for somebody else to drag her away?
The Flanderized version of her from fanfics does, for sure. In the original, Vista had a huge chip on her shoulder about being treated like a child. In her mind (at 12 years old, keep in mind for the irony), she was a Hero fighting for whatever (I legit forget because the various fic versions of her tend to be more interesting). Anyway, she was angry about it and she would sneak out to "patrol" on her own, getting in fights with mostly Empire and ABB unpowered gang members. I think she fought Hookwolf on one of those "patrols" but I may be conflating that with one or more fanfics.
 
Apeiron Makes a Vlog about Upgrading His Kitchen (AmberSlime)
Apeiron Makes a Vlog about Upgrading His Kitchen
by Amber​

[The livestream begins. The scene is a tiny and cramped apartment building. The windows have all been covered with thick black curtains. Apeiron strides in from off-camera, looking wildly out-of-place and yet right at home in his shiny, dramatic armor.]

Aperion: Hey all, it's me, Apeiron. Thanks for tuning into the livestream. I'm currently broadcasting from my apartment, and as you can see...

[Apeiron gestures to the black curtains over the windows.]

Apeiron: I've blacked out the windows and taken all necessary measures to prevent my location from being deciphered--

[Apeiron leans forward and holds a hand beside his mouth.]

Apeiron (Whispered): And even a few unnecessary ones.

[Apeiron stands up straight and indicates a blank wall, barely large enough for a flatscreen TV.]

Apeiron: Today, I've decided to give this old place a few well-needed upgrades, starting off with perhaps the most important part of a home: the kitchen. Now, I intend for this to also serve as a guide on how to improve or install your own kitchen, so I'll be splitting this up into nice, digestible segments, starting from gathering tools and materials and moving on from there. If you have to leave the stream early or end up tuning in later on, don't worry; I'll be uploading an edited version of this livestream to my YouTube channel soon after this stream ends.

Across the nation, across the world, people scramble. Thinkers, analysts, and general smarty-pants are ushered into meeting rooms and told to analyze as much of the livestream as they can for any scrap of information about Apeiron's capabilities. Forum-dwelling parahuman geeks assemble for the novelty that is a livestreaming parahuman who isn't named Uber or Leet. Bored stay-at-home housewives tune in for lack of anything better to watch, and stay watching because holy smokes, Apeiron is building a kitchen live on camera. Accord drags his entire organization into the Ambassadors HQ Theater Room (which is totally a thing that has always existed) to watch the proceedings, giddy to experience yet more of Apeiron's excellent skill and design sense. Other people also tune in to watch for a myriad of reasons.

Apeiron: Now, me personally? I've been able to get by without screwdrivers, wrenches, drills, duct tape, and other such tools for a while now. For the viewers at home who haven't evolved to the point where they can use their fingers in place of power tools, I've assembled a list of tools comprehensive enough to cover any sort of kitchen-related project, from construction to installation to maintenance. You can find it in the stream chat, or if you're watching the edited version of this stream, you can find a link to the list in the description below.

[For the full list, refer to PRT File No. XXX-XXX-XXX, Appendix 1.]

Apeiron: Now, I understand not everybody has access to Adamantium or Mythril or were even aware that they were materials that existed. Don't fret, for most situations, tool-grade steel and the stuff you can pick up from your local hardware store is perfectly suitable. Now that we've got our tools, we can move on to preparing our space for new appliances and furniture.

[The video feed swaps to what appears to be a camera installed in Apeiron's helmet. He looks around the apartment, gesturing with his hands.]

Apeiron: Now, as you can see, we don't exactly have space for a proper kitchen. To fix that, we're going to make some spacial manipulators to extend and warp the space we do have to fit our needs. This has the neat side-benefit of making a fold-away kitchen. Isn't that neat?

Vista glared at the television screen. She and the rest of the Wards were shoved into Commons room and instructed to watch Mammon's big dumb livestream about him upgrading his big dumb kitchen in his big dumb apartment. This was perhaps the last thing she wanted to watch involving Mammon; she really would've preferred watching him get taken down like a chump due to some easily exploitable weakness.

Of course, everybody else didn't seem to gather that they were supposed to be gathering intelligence on an enemy. Kid Win was taking notes like his life depended on it, Browbeat was just generally engrossed in the livestream, Weld and Flechette were discussing why Apeiron was making the design choices that he was, and Clockblocker was regularly asking questions in the stream chat. Even Shadow Stalker, who was doing her damndest to act like she didn't care about this at all, watched the screen with only the slightest of scoffs and eyerolls.

"Oh, and shout-out to Vista of the Brockton Bay Wards," Mammon's voice came through the speakers, frustratingly clear and soothing to listen to. "These space-manipulators actually make use of the exact same principles her power uses to operate. In a way, this project wouldn't be possible without her, so I'd like to extend my thanks."

Vista took a moment to process that. To ruminate on Mammon's words and what they meant to her.

"MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!" Vista screamed, frothing at the mouth like a feral animal as the rest of the Wards rushed to restrain her. "YOU THIEVING ^%*@$&^!!"

Apeiron: If you aren't confident in your ability to build a space-manipulating doo-dad, other methods include building an extension on your house, taking out a few walls, moving to a more spacious home, claiming your neighbor's space as your own through conquest, and building your kitchen outdoors. It's doable, so long as you either accept the risks of exposing your appliances to the elements or install them underneath a covered patio or porch.

Apeiron: Now that our space is ready and our tools are assembled, let's move on to construction. I'll start things off with an oven...

[Apeiron gestures, and a massive pile of materials appears in the middle of the apartment.]

Apeiron: I like to build everything from the ground-up. That includes making stuff like circuit boards and heating elements myself. I know not everybody has the patience or skill for that kind of thing, but I urge you to try and build up the skills necessary to do so; there's no feeling better than the pride that comes from knowing you made something entirely by yourself.

[Apeiron cracks his knuckles and stretches out his fingers.]

Apeiron: Now, I work pretty fast, so I'm going to make use of my helmet camera's super slow-mo features to allow the audience to follow along. Ready? In three, two, one... go!

[The footage slows down suddenly, by a factor of at least one million times. Apeiron's hands, blurry and indistinct even with the large amount of slow-down, scoop parts and ingots out of the pile of materials and start fashioning them into the shape of a sleek, futuristic oven. Heating elements, racks, knobs, and more are constructed at speeds that are fundamentally impossible to achieve, be it by humans or machines. The footage speeds back up.]

Apeiron: There we go! Nice and spiffy, isn't it? If you found that hard to follow, don't worry, the edited video will include a voiceover with further details on the construction process. Now, this took me a good five or so seconds to construct in real-time; I could've gone even faster if I used my Celestial Forge, but time doesn't exist when I use it, and I have no clue what that would've looked like on stream or how it would affect a person's sense of temporal perception, so...

At the ENE PRT, things are, perhaps surprisingly, rather calm. Oh, sure, more than a few analysts are complaining of headaches and Dragon is continually attempting to divine Apeiron's location despite multiple attempts to convince her to stop, but overall? All is calm, and all is well. Armsmaster watches the stream with a critical eye, observing Apeiron's construction in case he can adapt any of the legendary Tinker's methods to suit his own purposes. Deputy Director Renick is considering contracting Apeiron to improve the PRT facility's own kitchen. Dauntless focuses on the heating element for the oven and the coolant for the fridge, marveling at the shockingly mundane use for the same power that brought his Arclance to heights he never thought he'd reach.

Director Piggot, in a hitherto unseen state of absolute zen, finds herself enraptured with the stream. Sure, she's watching an S-class disaster of a Tinker put all of his efforts into building a kitchen, but well... it's a kitchen, for goodness sake. Not even she could bring herself to be upset or bothered by this. Thus, Director Piggot calmly watched the stream, even as she signed the relevant papers to release Vista into the care of a psychiatric facility.

Apeiron: I'll bet some of you are wondering how I'm going to be powering all of this, and how I'm going to keep it from showing up on the power grid and thus giving away my location. Well, it's very simple: With just a few household items, including this standing fan, this hamster wheel I bought from a pet store, and some copper wire, I can do...

[Apeiron begins to construct the device. The process of building it is somehow entirely incomprehensible, and has thus far proven resistant to every form of analysis the PRT and Dragon have tried to utilize.]

Apeiron: ...this! Ta-dah! My very own infinite energy generator! I've got zero clue how it works, but this puppy can power an entire city with no issues. As for why I'm using it to power kitchen appliances...

[Apeiron shuffles from side to side, body language distinctly nervous.]

Apeiron: Look, if I try to use this tech for anything that isn't a household use, things get... weird. I don't want to risk it. A-Anyways, let me just get this bad boy hooked up...

Within Cauldron Headquarters, Alexandria watched the livestream alongside her fellow conspirators. Apeiron had caught Cauldron's eye a while ago, and any information they had on him was important. Watching him make household appliances was an... unorthodox display of his capabilities, but it had already revealed so many things about his capabilities. Alexandria could already see how some of the principles shown here could be put to use against The Enemy.

"Here's the real piece de resistance of this whole project," Apeiron announced, gleefully rubbing his hands together. "The utensils. If you're following along at home, the following instructions will produce some top-tier gear, but I managed to get something that'll take this set of kitchenware to the next level."

With another wave of his hands, a mass of crystalline flesh and limbs, like some demented biotinker's idea of a hedge maze, warped into the apartment. Somehow, it all managed to fit inside the cramped space.

It was a very familiar mass of crystalline flesh and limbs.

"What I've got here is the flesh of an interdimensional space alien, codenamed 'Eden'. I picked this up from the headquarters of a group called Cauldron today--"

Alexandria heard Contessa shout for Doormaker to make a portal to Eden's location.

"--And let me tell you, nabbing this was the hardest thing I've done in three days. Their security is top-notch, it took me an entire minute to figure out how to bypass it and get the goods without being seen. With this, I can make it so that these utensils grant all sorts of beneficial Trump effects to any food made using them."

Alarms began to scream and blare, drowning out the livestream's audio.

"Well," Alexandria flatly spoke to herself even as everybody else in the room began to panic. "#$@!."

[Apeiron claps his hands and spreads them out again, waving toward all the things he's built over the course of the livestream.]

Apeiron: And there you go, folks! That's my kitchen all upgraded and spruced up! If you joined us late, be on the lookout for the edited version of this livestream, which'll be uploaded to YouTube soon; it'll cover everything you missed, and will even have some new scenes and voiceovers to cover things that didn't fit into a livestream format. Tune in for my next livestream on Saturday, where I'll cover the expansion and overhauling of this entire apartment to turn it into a veritable mansion. Remember to always strive for the stars above; this has been Apeiron...

[Apeiron salutes.]

Apeiron: Signing off.

[The livestream ends.]
 
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Anyway, she was angry about it and she would sneak out to "patrol" on her own, getting in fights with mostly Empire and ABB unpowered gang members. I think she fought Hookwolf on one of those "patrols" but I may be conflating that with one or more fanfics.
You're mixing her up with Shadow Stalker going off and doing her own thing.

What we know about the altercation with Hookwolf is that he attacked a grocery store, brushed Vista aside, and the blade on his arm cut her. But she didn't get it treated because it would have been embarrassing if it turned out to be just a scratch.
 
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