Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

All people complaining that Joe does not strike S9 now.
You guys know that you're talking from the position of out-of-verse knowledge, right? Same with Noelle. "He should attack Coil because Noelle would not be able to do anything to him, because the author of this story said so." Yes, and Joe's mind sits here with us and reads this fanfiction.
People forget that powers are bullshit, and Joe can't predict what S9 has right now. Just remember that things like PtV and Doormaker exist. There are tons of different invulnerability powers, threat detection, teleportation, that would foil his attempts if out of luck.
So, he'll "nuke" 100km² area, killing 5 times more than S9 would, and they still get away, and now will hide and skulk on the other end of the continent, because he attacked without knowing they can't escape/survive.
In addition to all this consider the following: it's an utterly confident plan, ignited Tybalt's Hot Blood, and just before telling he gave the Dai-Gurren smirk.
That's all, it's not Katsujinken screwing things as some said, it's the Spiral asking the world WHO THE HELL DOES IT THINK THEY ARE?!
 
link to that please???? I would like to see what happens and then compare to what Joe will do to them.
It's called "No Stranger to Change (Worm Cyoa)" on Questionable Questing. What you're looking for is in 3rd chapter. The story is pretty lewd as is appropriate for QQ. So fair warning.

It's a worm V1 with a really really weak Power Manipulator but still ends up OP because of how BS that cyoa is.
 
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You know, Mimi is surprisingly... aware of her surroundings?

She noticed small things, like Shatterbird's facial and power expressions, has a pretty good read on Jack's character and teams dynamics, etc. That's perception almost on Aisha's level (found out a megatinkers's identity from lack of acne scars and slight change in eye colour), not something I was expecting from Burnscar.

Quite a striking difference from the impression she gives in her few appearances in Worm. I wonder where this from... Maybe there was something in canon I'm just forgetting?
 
I dunno about letting S9 the first initiative. Come on Joe, you have given March the first step and then almost died. Letting Jack do prep time? What in world is he thinking?
Even without Broadcast Jack is really good, almost Batman level on planning.
This is gonna be March all over again. Oh Joe will win, easy. But Ungodly hour will be a joke compared to this
 
Knowing Joe has the power, and the inclination to help at least put Mouse Protector out of her misery, likely help much more, I doubt Riley or [SURGERY] could fuse souls, helps me keep some hope for her. And Ravager I guess, nobody deserves that.

Maybe he'll see Riley's Shard influence and vomit. I probably would, god knows her mind is twisted beyond recognition
 
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He has been a Tinker for.....what? Less than a month?

People don't know that, and in fact one theory is that he was previously a mercenary in South Africa or something.

By the way guys. Do you think Joe's gonna get softhearted when he reads the life profile of some of the 9?

Pretty sure Lord already answered by something like "maybe, but he'll still kill all of them. It would be unjust for their victims to do anything else".
 
You know, Mimi is surprisingly... aware of her surroundings?

She noticed small things, like Shatterbird's facial and power expressions, has a pretty good read on Jack's character and teams dynamics, etc. That's perception almost on Aisha's level (found out a megatinkers's identity from lack of acne scars and slight change in eye colour), not something I was expecting from Burnscar.

Quite a striking difference from the impression she gives in her few appearances in Worm. I wonder where this from... Maybe there was something in canon I'm just forgetting?

You could argue that few times we saw Mimi in canon she was tripping on fire HARD. I am more surprised that Shatterbird turned out to be voice of reason. Usually fics like to portray her as narcissistic idiot
 
The best part of OP worm fics is the Slaughterhouse curbstomp.

Yes! But I am a completionist. After Joe stomps the S9 he needs to go back in time, casually walk through one of Gray Boy's time bubbles, and use those COG combat boots to kick the little sadist in the nuts as well.

Grey Boy's victims are some of the most pitiable characters in Worm. Has Joe gained any ability which might allow him to remove them from the time bubbles?

Actually, I've been trying to figure out how Joe could effectively use his Titanfall AIs. I would love to see a team of giant mechs drop dramatically from the sky, march through the streets followed by a crowd of cheering fans ("Celestial Forge! Celestial Forge!"), then free and heal the victims. Time Titans? Temporal Titans? [*Hits self in face*] Chronos Titans.
 
Come on Joe, you have given March the first step and then almost died. Letting Jack do prep time? What in world is he thinking?
Joe didn't give March the first step. Joe didn't even know of March existence when she made her first step (got into city). And after he learned of her, he had to chase after plans she already set in place. The situation with S9 is different.
Even a bit of an opposite, as now, Joe's opposition is in the dark and Joe makes plans and preparations.

Also, since when Batman is known for making good plans from wrong information and unreliable hunches? Oh, you must be talking about Adam West's one. I don't think Jack has god repellent.

You could argue that few times we saw Mimi in canon she was tripping on fire HARD. I am more surprised that Shatterbird turned out to be voice of reason. Usually fics like to portray her as narcissistic idiot
Plenty sure she's voice of reason, only because it puts her in opposition of Cherish. You know, spite of reason.

But yeah, I can see it as Lord just having fun with characterizing a blank slate of a character (Mimi didn't get much characterization in Worm, and Shatter is only a bit better). Kinda like what he did with Uppercrust and Chubster.
 
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It's funny learning about the S9's plans, when in reality, the only protection they have is actually just jack slash. I remember a certain cat still hasn't made his debut, damn lazy cats.

Bonesaw reinforced their bodies, and she probably have a few plagues in store to release if she get killed. Also the Siberian can threaten Joe (if she can catch him).

So no, Jack isn't the sole defence of the team, through he is the most impactful by far.

You could argue that few times we saw Mimi in canon she was tripping on fire HARD. I am more surprised that Shatterbird turned out to be voice of reason. Usually fics like to portray her as narcissistic idiot

Why not both ? Even a narcissistic idiot can see that Brockton's bay is a bit hot right now, and that Cherish is acting on some very iffy intel ("I must say, you're rather confident for someone who only spent, what was it, three days in the city? Especially considering you couldn't even locate Apeiron most of the time.").
 
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How is this a March when they don't have an attack comparable to the sting used by entities to attack each other? Also Joe now has the power to teleport to dodge even if they time an attack perfectly.
Siberian? Let's not forget that Manton holding back in the Canon. He can make Siberian basically teleport.
Also, don't forget that Leet/The travellers/Butcher/Bakuda/Coil are still there. What if they decide to act the moment S9 arrive?
The Leviathan too. Absolutely nothing hold him back too attack right now. Ziz can't see Joe but she see everything else. She can calculate the perfect moment to sent Leviathan in.
 
I don't fully agree with Joe's battle plan but I can accept his decision as something that will make the story more interesting than killing the entire S9 in three paragraphs and that he's finally planning his battles instead of just running mindlessly. But I don't like this part at all:

Unfortunately, this was a situation where massive displays of power wouldn't resolve things. I could deal with any individual problem, but I wasn't the only party in play. Running off half-cocked might feel great…

No, it wouldn't. It would be good to be able to act, but I needed to remember what I was planning. That was another thing. Another modification to my mind. Katsujinken. The life-giving fist. Killing the Slaughterhouse Nine should be a righteous endeavor, something to be proud of, but even if I could accept it, even if I could accept that there was no peaceful resolution for this situation, I couldn't see it as a victory. A necessity, maybe, but not anything glorious. I was committing to death, and that wasn't something that I should be proud of. Any deviation would cause more death, and even the ideal solution would still see people killed. Death was an intrinsic aspect of dealing with monsters of this caliber.

The drive to address things quickly wasn't out of personal vindication, it was to minimize death. I could do it, but it would just create more problems in the long run. Could I solve those? Probably, but every careless step would create more ripples, more unpredictable reactions. More death.
It may be a personality clash with me but I totally despise this power and reasoning it imposes, why can't Joe be proud to definitively kill one of the USA's greatest monsters, even as a native of Terra Bet who lived under the shadow of the their terror? Why can't he see this as a victory when he's already accepted that it's a necessity?

As I said it's a personal and instinctive perceptive, but I hate the mentality that this power forces Joe to have, I liked him more just with the more mercenary mentality (even if I have to admit that with it Joe was still as indecisive with his actions as he is now, I just liked his justifications better).

Continuing when will be his meeting/negotiation with Uppercrust? The story has chapters so dense that I lose track of the timeline with each update and I hope Joe really heals him as he already does so much good and his death will make the second largest parahuman organization in the US much more violent. If Joe denies it for whatever reason with his power level it just goes to prove he's an idiot.
 
So, honestly? This just feels like more bullshit to middle the pond. Where you have even more shit to sprinkle on top of all these plot threads that are taking literally forever to actually get anywhere like Coil, Bakuda, etc. Like... there really hasn't been a fucking full resolution to anything since the goddamn Ungodly Hour, the loose ends haven't been tied, you have the coil shit pushing along on top of the fucking Teeth, and now the S9 coming in? Not to mention Noelle sitting on the side, nor that Leviathan isn't far off? I dunno. It honestly feels like stuff is getting combined and added too fast just as a way to possibly explain why Joe is still having issues in fights or could struggle and lose. Like that is my expectation for things to go seeing as we've yet to see Joe have a 100% Flawless Victory in spite of his power and tech level.

Shit I just want to see things actually get resolved fully before going into the next arc.
 
Bonesaw reinforced their bodies, and she probably have a few plagues in store to release if she get killed. Also the Siberian can threaten Joe (if she can catch him).

So no, Jack isn't the sole defence of the team, through he is the most impactful by far.
I guess that's true, if the S9 gangs up on the MC, but from a logical and literary stand point, wouldn't it make sense for the MC's team to make their debut instead of a 1 v 9? Personally, I'd like to see what the MC'S team is capable of, but I can wait for what the author decides.
 
Continuing when will be his meeting/negotiation with Uppercrust? The story has chapters so dense that I lose track of the timeline with each update and I hope Joe really heals him

Uppercrust should contact Joe today. He didn't want to appear too... needy by calling him too early.

Like a date.

...should we ship Uppercrust x Apeiron ?
 
Uppercrust actually contacted Joe on Monday evening. He offered to have a meeting on Tuesday. Right now, it's Tuesday morning.

And no. The only acceptable ship in this fic, is CFS Final Frontier! Any other will not be accepted by Matrix Standard.
 
Looking forwards to Joe's eventual thoughts on facing down Mannequin or having one of his team set to do it.

After all, the man that that was made out of was his childhood hero to the point one of his playsets was Joe's safe space.

And given Joe wants to make a statement I can see some heartfelt tragic acknowledgement of the monster his hero Sphere has become.

Though I do wonder if undoing what Ziz did to Sphere would be possible, it's probably far too late at this point. I imagine Joe might at least take a look at it in subdued hope.
 
"Clearly." Said Jack. "Any cape purported to be invincible will be prone to overlooking their own weaknesses. Apeiron may have learned a harsh lesson, but experiences like that can be double edged swords." A flick of a knife caused a scratch to appear on one of Shatterbird's printouts showing Apeiron bloody on the ground. "He will be aware of the possibility of such an attack repeating itself. Perhaps overly focused, to the detriment of other areas. Shoring up obvious areas while leaving gaps in his armor unaddressed."
This is great, its 100% Jack leaning on his gut and saying a cool line to reassure his pawns and foreshadow his upcoming victory. But he dosent actualy have good hunches and he has no idea that his power exists let alone is jammed. So his prediction is wildly wrong and more than anything that is going to be what kills him.
 
Joe is really starting tl go full mad scientist (the good kind) and I freaking love it! :D

Him calling an alien space where the laws of physics and basic geometry are just a beaten down suggestion "non-eucledian" though, complete murder of suspension of disbelief. Can't believe our boi Joe went to the Lovecraft School of Mathematics, for shame :V

EDIT: Also the CFS Final Frontier will totally GATTAI! with Fleet, Survey, The Matrix, and Joe at some point, you can't just bring a giant ship into a verse with Spiral Energy and not GATTAI! it!
 
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