Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

So I was rereading previous chapters and I get the feeling that when coil takes over as director of PRT ENE he's going to point vista at Aperion as a disposable weapon/bad PR attack. Vista will loose (obviously). Media spin attempts to paint Celestial Forge as child attacking monsters and when everything come to light Vista realizes she's the villain in this situation and she 2nd triggers.
 
Does this apply to the book that Joe got from the "Bigger on the Inside" RWBY perk? Has in now been digitized and organized into Survey's Library?


I guess this answers my previous question. It seems Tybalt got 3 new perks.
I just realised. If the Bigger on the Inside book is digitised, then in theory so too will the 40k DAoT book. And while it won't be translated automatically by the possession/knowledge of the Arch Magos perk it will still be in the digi-library which will make it easier to translate, especially if the library is accessible from the Throne, and as such can be accessed under time dilation (Which will be further increased if Joe gains the perks that allow for time dilation of the Workshop and time dilation while he's inside the workshop).
They were in the same building as Survey; of course they're digitized.

Personally I'm more interested in the infohazard resistance of it translating things from the Fallen London lab.
So I was rereading previous chapters and I get the feeling that when coil takes over as director of PRT ENE he's going to point vista at Aperion as a disposable weapon/bad PR attack. Vista will loose (obviously). Media spin attempts to paint Celestial Forge as child attacking monsters and when everything come to light Vista realizes she's the villain in this situation and she 2nd triggers.
Too obvious of a attack and Vista realizing that she's the villain of a situation isn't close enough to her first Trigger to give her a Second Trigger.
 
You know, the whole magic thing is great for Joe to now have more information to work with to go alongside the benefit of being able to merge magic with technology.

And considering the fact that parahuman powers count as magic in this story only leaves us with one thing to do.

Survey starting to gather more data on how those powers work so he can combine them with his tech. Que mass hysteria from all the new weapons and gear he can now make as well. From EVERYBODY!!!!

And know I can see quite a few groups having this type of reaction.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9KGfgg-d8s
 
He can modify bodies, both biological and technological, along with souls and potentially minds, especially if he gets into Neathbow, so yeah I should think that he'd be capable of making people magic.

Yeah, that's what I suspected. Eternal Darkness spam incoming, I imagine, or something similar. I doubt she'll tend towards the Ice variation of Water element, so probably something similar but not likely to properly provide Antipode, for example.

Not ignoring the implications of the Library, but that's a massive informational storage boost to someone who doesn't need it quite as much as he could have towards the beginning of his quest to master the Celestial Forge. I mean any time he gets a new power he tries to hard dump as much of it as he can into the Optical Throne (I think he's well past Diamond at this point, but almost to Moon Cell levels of computing power. Almost. Within an order of magnitude I think at this point, which still smokes every other tinker who ever lived.)

I mean, his duplicates are probably dying horribly trying to dump M&E's database and skillset into the computer system, and that's a whole jailbroken power right there. Un-black-boxed, teachable, mass producible. Easier to dump it into the Throne than try to write it all out, to be honest.

That said, 10,000 fiction books? Most popular? I'm utterly certain Harry Potter is in there. On top of that, any manga/anime based magazine will have something about Fate/Extra or Fate/Extra CCC around that time. Maybe even some lore, but that's less likely than HP.
 
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Chrono Trigger. I keep hearing about that game, and I played through its supposed predecessor Secert of Mana back on the first Nintendo i think, but I've never actually played it. It's on my bucket list.
 
Did Joe teach Aisha a bit about how powers are inherited in families? Does he actually know all the details? Im never sure about just how much he understands about passengers aside from him being the most knowledgeable person in Worm or if some things change because of AU and Shards being magic.

If I'm not wrong passengers create Buds of themselves in people the Host has strong emotional connections right? not really blood relatives? So the fact Aisha has an independent Shard could be pretty sad depending on Lords´ interpretation there. Are they somehow not actually blood related? or does Brian not care enough about Aisha as a person, but more as an extension of himself, as a responsibility he has failed to uphold and damaged his sense of self?
 
....Oh shit his sister is a Cape, It all makes sense! *puts on tinfoil hat*
You know it occurs to me that with all of joes perks he might be able to actually make a tinfoil hat that works, there was discussion about making the ultimate cupholder a few chapters back but now the image of Joe making a super stylish tinfoil hat that protects from masters is stuck in my head.
 
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That said, 10,000 fiction books? Most popular? I'm utterly certain Harry Potter is in there. On top of that, any manga/anime based magazine will have something about Fate/Extra or Fate/Extra CCC around that time. Maybe even some lore, but that's less likely than HP.
problem: Joe already has the bet and aleph versions of HP at hand, so this likely doesn't change anything. he also already has an understanding of fate mechanics through the in-universe Princess Guinevere, so this is probably just a curiosity more than anything - what the library provides insight into in this area might actually just be the concept of contemporary anime as a whole; iirc anime died before it could really take off in this universe due to the sinking of kyushu. he's far more likely to glean some insight into his Other anime-based powers, such as FMAB alchemy and some others.
 
He can modify bodies, both biological and technological, along with souls and potentially minds, especially if he gets into Neathbow, so yeah I should think that he'd be capable of making people magic.
With Tetra having demigod and various magical DNA from him the adaptability of life fibers and how they promote evolution in their hosts it's possible that she now makes people magical and no-one noticed because it's redundant on Joe.
 
I wonder if the library also includes movies, tv shows, and video games or does it only contain printed media?
That is a good question. I can see movies being included as long as they were historical, informational, or linked to a book in the library. TV shows that are the same as well.

Not sure about video games though. But I kinda want to see a reaction now to Survey finding a DVD for a state zoo that doesn't exist in there as well.
 
I wonder if the library also includes movies, tv shows, and video games or does it only contain printed media?

That is a good question. I can see movies being included as long as they were historical, informational, or linked to a book in the library. TV shows that are the same as well.

Not sure about video games though. But I kinda want to see a reaction now to Survey finding a DVD for a state zoo that doesn't exist in there as well.

Movies and games have their own perks in the Personal Reality Constellation, specifically:

Movie & TV Series Collection (50): Functionally identical to the Music Collection, but instead containing 15,000 hours of recorded passive visual media, all in a format your systems can play. All are available in their original languages, with subtitles that are below the bottom of the image and high visibility, with commentary explaining any cultural or production notes, with creator and actor commentary where possible, and with perfectly done dubbing into a language you speak like a native... or rather all languages you speak like a native... and this dubbing sounds exactly like the original actors. Every month you'll receive 12 hours of new media.

Game Room (200) So much free time, so little to do. This room is the answer to that. Not only is it equipped with 6 networked PCs customized for gaming circa the year you came from, it has up to 12 real world gaming consoles and any gaming network required to connect them. The furniture matches your general housing level but will always be at least comfy beanbags. In addition to the PCs and Consoles, you'll also get a dozen real world arcade cabinets (up to four of the same machine may be counted as a single machine for multiplayer games), a pool table, a billiards table, a two lane bowling alley, a darts set up, and up to six other game specific tables, including table top board games and RPGs. The room comes with a mini-fridge and microwave if you have Powa. And a room for games wouldn't be very much use without games, so you may select 250 games from the real world to have up to 6 copies each of, and you gain 6 copies of any one new game from the real world or any setting you've been to (all DLC or expansions included) every month. Free of charge. No magical or other-wise powered games included. If you also have the Entertainment Room the two can be combined to turn the rooms into personal gaming rooms using the Game Room equipment.

And for possible additions:

Mall (100) You now have an entire mall in your Personal Reality, which starts out with 15 average-sized shops. These shops include at least one bookshop, one pet shop, one drug store with pharmacy, three clothing stores, one shoe store, one computer & games shop, one grocery store and one fast food restaurant. You can pick the general theme of the five remaining shops within the mall yourself or leave it to chance. Merchandise sold in these shops is comparable to merchandise normally sold in shops in your current jump. Any currency available in your current Host Reality is required to make purchases in these shops. The mall is kept clean and filled with merchandise by automated system, unless you've purchased Servant Quarters, in which case it gets staffed by additional servants.... alternatively, if you and your companions have children, you may require them to staff the shops to earn an allowance. No shops that could not normally be found in your Origin Reality. A shop from one Host Reality may be locked in so that it won't change when you leave that Host Reality. If you ever decide to change it, that shop will close immediately and a new one will take its place at the start of your next jump. All such stores have limited daily stock, and no storage space for more... but they'll restock popular items daily and less popular items weekly. If something doesn't sell, they'll eventually stop carrying it, but there is never a 'oh, you buy this much often! We jack up price!' function. If you're an ass, you can charge everyone who isn't you a tax on anything they buy here, but you're taxing your friends and followers.

More for More (50) This Mall Upgrade adds an additional five shops to your mall, or upgrades the existing shops from low end common shops to upscale shops or from upscale to high end shops. Think the difference between a working class neighborhood mall and a white collar neighborhood and one in a highly affluent neighborhood mall.

Mall of All (100) This More for More Upgrade requires you to have bought More for More enough times to have 65 Shops in your Mall... and doubles the number of shops. This can be bought as many times as you like, and each time it adds twenty restaurants to your mall. They will be 10 common eateries (fast food, cookies, ice cream), 5 cafes, 3 mid-scale, and 2 upscale. Nothing that would get a Michelin Star, but something on the order of an expensive chain steakhouse or fancy french restaurant.

Jump Topic (200) After every jump concludes, your mall gains a general store specific to that jump's reality that carries commonly available consumer goods and pre-packed food items indicative of that reality's cuisine. Think convenience store bentos or carry out chinese food. Also carries spare parts for mundane equipment from that reality. If you've used More for More to upgrade the general level of your shops, the Jump Topics will also be improved, carrying higher end goods and food.




 
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With Tetra having demigod and various magical DNA from him the adaptability of life fibers and how they promote evolution in their hosts it's possible that she now makes people magical and no-one noticed because it's redundant on Joe.
I think the first reason no one would notice is that before making them magical, Tetra would make them dead.
I wonder if the library also includes movies, tv shows, and video games or does it only contain printed media?
A library full of game guides, without a game in sight. Tragic.
 
New abilities for Tybalt:

Will Thee Accompany Me? (Chrono Trigger) Free:
While it might not be my specialty, I'm not a bad hand at restoring lost timestreams. If you have any friends who tagged along with you, I make sure they're able to find you wherever and whenever they end up. I'll even provide them with a healthy new human body, along with the Element of their choice
Does that last sentence there mean that Tybalt has a human altform now?
 
Jump Topic (200) After every jump concludes, your mall gains a general store specific to that jump's reality that carries commonly available consumer goods and pre-packed food items indicative of that reality's cuisine. Think convenience store bentos or carry out chinese food. Also carries spare parts for mundane equipment from that reality. If you've used More for More to upgrade the general level of your shops, the Jump Topics will also be improved, carrying higher end goods and food.​

Celestial Entertaiment , which is another take on the Celestial Forge idea, had this come up, and the huge resulting mall was hilarious, remember that the "Celestial Forge" acts as "after jump", so ALL jumps have already been concluded...
 
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I think the problem with this is that Joe is worried about thinker detection. He was worried about his personal defences being breached in this chapter, so naturally he would be even more worried about robots being detected. Personally I think he is probably being paranoid, but he does have a reason for not doing it.

That, and right now Joe has no reason to go out of the city. Like he said, it's best to wait until he has long distance teleportation such as apparition or a groundbridge.

That said, 10,000 fiction books? Most popular? I'm utterly certain Harry Potter is in there. On top of that, any manga/anime based magazine will have something about Fate/Extra or Fate/Extra CCC around that time. Maybe even some lore, but that's less likely than HP.

It is, it's mentioned in the chapter

"So, we have a third version of the Harry Potter books." Aisha said, reviewing the catalog. "But no Maggie Holt." She added, then gave me a sideways glance. "Not even a Blake Thornburn."


Did Joe teach Aisha a bit about how powers are inherited in families? Does he actually know all the details? Im never sure about just how much he understands about passengers aside from him being the most knowledgeable person in Worm or if some things change because of AU and Shards being magic.

If I'm not wrong passengers create Buds of themselves in people the Host has strong emotional connections right? not really blood relatives? So the fact Aisha has an independent Shard could be pretty sad depending on Lords´ interpretation there. Are they somehow not actually blood related? or does Brian not care enough about Aisha as a person, but more as an extension of himself, as a responsibility he has failed to uphold and damaged his sense of self?

I think this was mentioned much earlier, but canonically, Aisha and Brian have different shards. I think during Scion's interlude, he notes that Aisha's shard is the one that erases memories of trigger visons.

Edit: found it:

I know what a second gen trigger is, and Aisha's shard is not the same as Grue's. You can tell because their powers are so dissimilar. One is more a feild that absorbs energy thus you get a black cloud and power dampening, and the other is a sort of forget-me effect that has no limit because latter on even physical records of her existance are either forgoten or lost. Also Aisha's shard is the one directly connected to insuring the host species doesn't catch on.

Edit:spelling

'm going to admit full ignorance here. I honestly thought Aisha's shard was a bud of Brian's that was demonstrating some esoteric application of the shard's power, some kind of mental concealment rather than physical. I had read the Interlude where it was confirmed, but with the Scion perspective I never connected it to Aisha. It seemed really unlikely that two directly related parahumans would each end up with unconnected shards, but large enough sample size and unusual coincidences show up. It has almost no impact on the story, but thanks for the clarification.

Does that last sentence there mean that Tybalt has a human altform now?

I think LordR mentioned he's running a 'no altform' rule for this story.
 
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The Celestial Forge's Day Off! (dragon_cloud16)
And great you all inspired me again.

The Celestial Forge's Day Off!​

"Hey Joe! Where is everybody?"

And with that greeting, Aisha walked into the Library to find Joe. Laying back in a chair, modified into a recliner with a massage function from her last time in it (Why is there a ghostly Lung staring at it enviously?), reading a copy of another Earth's version of "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" is what she see's when he is finally in view.

Reaching over to pick up a glass of water he had next to him (DON'T TELL SURVEY!), Joe briefly turns his attention towards the only normal parahuman on the team before going back to his book.

"I gave everybody the day off. We all have been working hard so I decided that everyone could use one. After all, Survey has pretty much become a lawyer for Garment along with a few other rogues, Fleet has been working on designing new vehicles, Matrix has been doing constant construction, Tetra has been starting to get stressed out about her upcoming transformation into a Kamui, Tybalt is still a cat in a sense, and you have been working hard on your training," is Joe's response to her question.

With that, Aisha pauses for a minute to refute that before she looks back at everything that has been happening recently. Memories flash before her eyes as she remembers learning so much and all the things she has done since the "Godly Hour" has occurred. After blinking a few times, she turns to look at for a book herself as she responds.

"Good point. So are they all outside the Workshop right now? Not getting into any trouble right?" Aisha asks.

With a snort, Joe continues to read slowly to enjoy the book before replying. "Yeah, they are all out doing something. And it's not like they can get into a lot of trouble right?"

And with that, a crash of thunder is heard to fill the Library along with the laughter from multiple entities including Spekkio.

Turning quickly towards Aisha, Joe thinks for a second before rising from his comfortable spot and dashing towards the Computer Thrones. Only to find out that trouble is what they can find indeed.

(With Tetra)

"GET AWAY FROM MEEEEE!" screams Hemorrhagia of the Teeth as she is being chased by a mink made up of alien fibers. Too many it is a comical scene, not helped by the fact that the little's member of the Celestial Forge is wearing a big and holding a straw on her back.

"NNNNOOOO! I just want a sip from you is all. I promise I won't really hurt you or anything! Just one little sip is all! Please?" Tetra goes on in her light flashing way that few can understand.

"OH GAWD! IT WANTS TO DRINK MY BRAINS LIKE A SMOOTHE!!" is the villain's response to seeing her light up in a red glow. "LEAVE ME ALONE!!"

And with that, Hemorrhagia pushes herself faster into a building with Tetra following closely. Going after the blood manipulator, she is soon to find herself facing the current Butcher.

Quirking a eyebrow, the "possessed" parahuman starts to turn her minigun over to the mass of Life Fibers with a confused look on her face.

"And what is this shit about? I was trying to figure out what we could do until March got in touch with us again," Butcher says only to be answered by both of them. And sadly she could only understand one of them.

"I just want to get a drink of her blood Ms. Butcher. That is all I wanted to do," Tetra responds by lighting up.

"She wants to turn my insides to mush and drink them through my nose with that straw!" is verbally shouted by the "villain" behind her leader.

"Well then, looks like we got to get rid of this thing then," is the answer heard along with the whining of the minigun starting up.

"If you don't want me to get a drink from her, then I'll get a drink from you instead!" And with that, Tetra jumps forward turning into a mass of razor thin threads that can devour humanity easily as the fight between the adorable alien abomination and the women with a alien parasite connected to her head holding it's previous victims' soul's within begin.

(With Fleet and Matrix)

"This is going to be great!" is heard from a small garage that has many onlookers looking within. From teenagers to professional mechanics, all observe how the "Pilot" of the Celestial Forge practices one aspect of his craft in a different way.

Modifying cars in goofy ways that are still drive able without using Tinker tech.

"Okay, so you want me to super charge your engine, turn that car into something that can act as a boat without looking strange or goofy, install a beer dispenser into your truck's cab, make that old ambulance be able to pop a wheelie, and finally turn your beautiful ride into one that can fly right?"

Hearing the nods from all the guys there, a grin grows upon his face as he turns over to Matrix.

"How long do you think it will take us Matrix?" is the question from Fleet.

"It depends on how good we wish to do the job," comes from the AI controlled mass of Nanobots. "If we work together and plan it out, we can have a respectable quality along with being down with all of the tasks before 9 O'clock tonight. But only if the payment is good though for us."

One of the garage workers hearing this, gets a grin before moving over to a older car that has scene better days. Patting it lightly, the man faces the two members of the Celestial Forge to give his own input to them.

"If you can get it done by then, I'll let you have this right here. She needs some work but I figure you two and Apeiron could do something with a old 64 Thunderbird that my dad and I tried to work on before he passed. Just promise me you'll show up here with her after you get down fixing her up."

With a quick glance between Fleet and Matrix, they come to the same conclusion.

"Deal."

(With Survey)

A crowd forms around a stage that has been setup earlier today. Speakers stand at the sides while lights start to flash different shades of blue and silver as a test before a show starts.

And behind a curtain stands Survey herself outside of her usual outfits with Garment besides her. A blue bikini top with a silvery pattern is worn with a similar jacket over that. Shorts that reach just above her knees along with boots that go to the middle of her lower legs is visible.

FIngerless gloves adorn her hands as does a sleek watch on her left wrist as well. A pair of sunglasses with a silver effect covers her eyes along a pair of elegant ear rings. Her hair is pulled into a ponytail that spreads out across her back.

Turning over to face the spirit of fashion, Survey flashes a smile to her friend. "Thank you for your assistance with this Garment. This will be a excellent experience for me along with a good source of data to analyze later. Is there anything I can do to repay you for your help?"

A "nod" from the fashionable "cape" is her answer before she does a quick series of gestures to her in her own way of replying.

"Of course I can do this again for you if this is a success. And I will be more then willing to model any outfits you will like while doing so," comes from the beautiful AI granted a humanoid, divine body.

"Well it is showtime." And with that, Survey moves forward onto the stage. Switch how she walks to closely match that of both a model and performer, she is soon before the crowd that stands in front of her.

"Hello Brockton Bay! I am Survey of the Celestial Forge and I want to thank each and everyone of you for showing up to this show!" she says while demurely moving her body to get the attention of everybody there.

Gently cupping her face as if to hide a blush while turning her face away, she continues on. "This is my first time performing on stage singing for anyone so please don't get upset with me. I wanted to at least try just one time to be a star like any other girl that has seen them once after losing nearly everything."

In the back ground, a few case 53's hear this and turn their attention over to her more heavily. Thought of Apeiron being able to cure them grow more heavily from their own thoughts

Not showing it, but acknowledging the "monstrous" capes to herself Survey goes to finish her introduction. "So please keep a open heart and mind as I try to share this gift of music with each and every single one of you."

And with that, a beat starts to come from the speakers around her before she begins to sing a song she found in a resent addition of the Workshop. After all, it is not everyday one can find a Japanese song with nearly complete English lyrics after all for someone to sing.


(With Tybalt)

"Meow." "Ain't that the truth there huh buddy?" "Meow."

On a small fishing boat in the middle of Brockton Bay, a older man sits in his chair with a fishing line cast out with Tybalt sitting next to him with his own line as well.

"You know, if we didn't have all those old boats in the way, we could easily get out into deeper water and maybe get some better catches then these small things," the old man says to his new fishing buddy. A look of remembrance covers his face with fondness at all the good times he can remember fishing out there before it was made more difficult by the Dockworkers Strike.

"Meow," is the reply before Tybalt reaches behind himself and pulls out a grenade launcher. Quickly aiming it at the best spot for his needs, the Felyne shoots a round out at the ships.

"WHAT THE HELL! Warn a guy before you shoot something like that why don't you," the man exclaims from the shock of having the guy next to him pull out a grenade launcher and using it. "Don't tell me your like that psycho bitch that bombed the place up?"

With a shake of his head and a "Meow," Tybalt returns his grenade launcher and points over to where he shot the ships.

As the older fisherman looks over, he finds a massive and clean hole had been opened up in the sunken blockade. One large enough for multiple fishing boats to pass through easily. Along with maybe a freighter as well.

A grin spreading across his face, the man turns over to his partner in "crime" before saying. "Good job man. Why don't we go out to deeper water and try to get something bigger to catch now?"

"Meow!" "That's what I thought. Let's go!"

And with that, the two pull their lines in before heading off to deeper waters. Those that are nearby look in shock at what has just happened as a question comes form the ship with a reply that for some reason chills everyone there bones.

"So what was the grenade launcher for anyway?" "Meow." "Oh. Good idea if that slippery bastard Leviathan shows up to do that to him too."
 
problem: Joe already has the bet and aleph versions of HP at hand, so this likely doesn't change anything. he also already has an understanding of fate mechanics through the in-universe Princess Guinevere, so this is probably just a curiosity more than anything - what the library provides insight into in this area might actually just be the concept of contemporary anime as a whole; iirc anime died before it could really take off in this universe due to the sinking of kyushu. he's far more likely to glean some insight into his Other anime-based powers, such as FMAB alchemy and some others.

Correction, he has a incomplete understanding of Fate mechanics from Princess G. It was noted that the way his power works was similar but simultaneously different from how it's described in Princess G, but he chalked it up to Multiverse shenanigans. So the Library will give him the version from Earth Alpha Prime meaning the version that is 1-1 correct with where his power came from. And everything that entails. Well, as correct as you can get with Fate....

If I'm not wrong passengers create Buds of themselves in people the Host has strong emotional connections right? not really blood relatives? So the fact Aisha has an independent Shard could be pretty sad depending on Lords´ interpretation there. Are they somehow not actually blood related? or does Brian not care enough about Aisha as a person, but more as an extension of himself, as a responsibility he has failed to uphold and damaged his sense of self?

It's been pointed out already In-Verse that Shard connections are not just about blood relations but more importantly emotional relations. Which is why, according to this fic, Glory Girl has super forcefields of her uncle, but her cousins, her uncles kids, do not. As due to the *ahem* affair he had at around the time she was conceived, he was constantly twisted in knots wondering if Victoria was his kid or not. (She isn't, but he had no way of knowing at the time.)

Chrono Trigger. I keep hearing about that game, and I played through its supposed predecessor Secert of Mana back on the first Nintendo i think, but I've never actually played it. It's on my bucket list.

Chrono Trigger isn't a predecessor to SoM. They both originated from the same project, one went left the other right. Now, the -actual- predecessor is Final Fantasy. Specifically, Final Fantasy Adventures. The sequel being renamed as Secret of Mana. Canonical sequel that is.
 
Don't bother looking up the sequel, Chrono Cross, by the way.

It has the dubious 'innovation' of making all of their companion characters have an accent!

...Which means there are 45 characters with an identical script that has mild changes to how they talk like 'change periods to tildes' or other equally inane things. No idea how many actually have backstories/sidequests involved, but it's a massive cliff-drop down from Chrono Trigger's well written and fun personalised sidequests.

Regarding the 'human' thing for Tybalt - does this mean he'd get a brief replacement form as a human while his 'item' self respawns, should he ever die?
 
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