Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
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I believe it was stated to be for disaster management, clearing rubble and all that.
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Also they weren't planning to just send Wards, from my understanding. Either with other Protectorate members as chaperones, or as Protectorate members proper.
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Wards regularly get sent in danger.
We had Wards outside of PRT ENE at the Leviathan and the Echidna battle canonically.
Your sentiment that the Wards are supposed to be protected is something the Youthguard advocates for, not the PRT.
The PRT is using them to stretch their manpower, without getting too much bad press.
They DID send Wards, in canon during Endbringer attacks and the Echidna incident.
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When Cauldron figures out Garment isn't a case 53 and she is secretly apart of the Celestial Forge I imagine them having the realization that Apeiron is manufacturing capes. They already suspect the power tinker specialization and his early work is of noticeably lower quality. The idea he started out with 53 style mutations and worked his way up to Fleet and Survey would make sense. He also didn't have Path to Victory to ensure his "bootleg" Triumvirate wouldn't have horrible mutations which is why he needed to develop anti-mutation healing tech in the first place. Even Alec joked he made his team so people are considering it already even without knowing that it has already been done before.
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The fact that Lethe was initially assumed to be a stealth suit sent to retrieve him probably helps the idea.
Path to Victory can not emulate what the end result of a vial is going to be. Those four simply got lucky. Doormaker, Clairvoyant, The Slug, Custodian weren't.
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This threw me off as well. The idea that the Protectorate has a special team designed for disaster recovery and rubble moving makes total sense, but that the team is a Wards team is just .... wrong in many ways. They don't have a team like that of adults? Really?
No mention of adult chaperones or other adult capes being sent to BB but I think that is a semi safe assumption.
Also an opportunity for our girl Gully to meet up with her crush Everett, the leader of said Ward team.
Maybe she can be rockin' a new look when they meet up? Make it happen Joe.
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They might have. But disaster recovery is, technically, a non-combat duty. They have enough problems that they'll prioritize assigning adults to combat duty. Both for PR and practical reasons.
If you want a more pr friendly approach (read how the prt is probably selling) it its cause the bay's wards are now benched and stuck on highly limited duties this wards group is probably going to be aimed at clean up while there's probably protectorate members brought in to assist in patrols since the bay's roster is rather thin when you account for injuries. There's also most likely the dust as a factor gully pulled up earth dust but is there on vacation I highly doubt its a coincidence the team sent is capable of getting more of that type at the bare minimum but can probably get or help get others.
I think Joe couldn't help himself due to his beautifying perk and not only cure her but turn her stunning.
Knowing how he operates the cure would include a entire new wardrobe plus gear to boot.
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It was also the original intention when they created the Wards according to Hero interlude.
There was a WOG on that which boiled down to "yes, but you are vastly overestimating the effect of the watch". Unfortunatly the exact answer got lost when the discord was hacked.
Counter example : Joe didn't provide any equipement to Weld.
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Are there any images in Tales of Symphonia of what Key Crests look like? I got the idea that the Exsphere/Key Crest combo just looks like jewelry with a sizeable gem, also from this quote -
But I can't seem to find any images of a Key Crest, just lots of images of Exspheres.
Are they just magic that gets applied to the Exsphere to modulate it, or are they actual accessory devices?
But I can't seem to find any images of a Key Crest, just lots of images of Exspheres.
Are they just magic that gets applied to the Exsphere to modulate it, or are they actual accessory devices?
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Given that there's WoG that Joe is likely to figure out what Gully is in Brockton Bay for (since Survey exists), once Coil is dealt with I can easily imagine her and Uppercrust being among the first to benefit from Joe throwing away the mercenary persona. Though for Uppercrust, there may be some complications considering his connections to the Elite and the possibility of Uppercrust being cured causing a civil war there.
To be fair, at that point if he gave anything to Weld, the PRT would just immediately confiscate it and go haywire again. Remember, the last time something Joe made got into their hands, Master accusations started flying around. But timeline-wise, by the time Joe gets to Gully, that's likely to no longer be a problem with all the clout that has been forming around Apeiron.
From my understanding, the Key Crest is the base where the Exsphere (the gem) is mounted upon.
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That also apply to Gully and to any Protectorate/Ward member Joe would help. They WILL want to grab any tech he hold out, for "making sure it's safe", of course.
(And if the equipement is souldbound, they will immobilize said hero/ward in a lab somewhere)
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But remember - by Weld's time, Apeiron was still mostly a big question mark. Weld was literally the first positive interaction Apeiron had with the PRT, and everyone doubted his words. Ever since then, with Weld's help (and probably will be the result of this current meeting by Alexandria), Apeiron has moved away from "uncertain threat" into "someone we cannot make an enemy of."
Even if the Brockton PRT branch wants to keep away from Apeiron, the fact is the wider PRT is moving to interact with him while Piggot is coming under fire for her decisions. The Master and mastermind accusations also kind of falls flat now, as a lot of people have pointed out that if Apeiron really just wanted to cause chaos, he doesn't need to Master anyone and never needed to. That's how powerful he is.
And risk getting Apeiron mad for "interfering with his contract"? Yep, definitely not something they're going to test.
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There was a WOG that basically said that it would only cause an illusion of change in the day/night cycle, since the item itself doesn't do any actual time acceleration, just aesthetic changes.
Well for one, Joe's healing isn't equivalent to creation, just a rebuild at best. Still aesthetic perks, but not quite as strong. Also, I think Joe's sense of aesthetics affects things pretty strongly IMO; When crafting a body for Survey, the base appearance was at least roughly based on his idea of "ideal femininity" with the hourglass figure that iirc she was described as having.
I imagine that Gully would look mostly normal. Perhaps more attractive than average, but Joe would still see her as the teenager she is, so IDK that she'd end up anywhere close to Survey.
IDK about Gear, I could totally imagine a "Woops sorry your costume doesn't fit anymore" moment, followed by Joe taking a single loose thread, waving it about a few times and giving her 25 bulletproof costumes.
AFAIK the Exphere is just the gem itself. The plate-like accessories around them are the Key Crests. They're pretty tiny, and esp with minutarization powers it could come off as just a brooch, hence the "when did you start wearing jewelry" line.
A Key Crest is normally what the Exsphere is mounted on. If you look at picture of Lloyd the actual exsphere is the orb and the keycrest is the thing the exsphere is placed on. When placed directly on flesh, Exspheres kind of sink into it.
However a Key Crest can technically be anything made of inhibitor ore with the correct magic charms on it. It doesn't have to actually be attached to the Exsphere.
A lot of questions were asked about this item.
Here's a couple of WoG's on the matter:
46.1 Interlude Weld - AO3 said:
48 Uptime - AO3 said:
48 Uptime - AO3 said:
48 Uptime - AO3 said:
Tl;dr - no actual time dilation effects on an area itself. Works only on Joe's machines, enemies he fights, and certain aspects of his Workshop (presumably - anything linked with no-fiat backed automatic production). Those Watches, at least without support of Minecraft physics, not a hyperglycemic crine chamber material. Even with Apeiron skills, they just work in different direction.
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Besides, if Joe wants to make a hyperbolic time chamber, he probably could do so now at any time. The only reason why he hasn't is because it would really only help with crafting time and training, the latter being doable through digitally (though he might make it for the physical training that Tybalt is slated to provide for Aisha and Aura training for everyone else), and Joe doesn't exactly have a concept of crafting time anymore.
Heck, as far back as before Joe had Do One Thing At A Time, he was debating making a hyperbolic time chamber to get some extra sleep in, and though it may have been a joke, it certainly was already a possibility with Simple Scientific Solution. Right now though, Joe has enough magic skill to emulate time magic in a limited area, something that even modern Magi in Fate could do to some degree like the Emiya bloodline could.
Heck, as far back as before Joe had Do One Thing At A Time, he was debating making a hyperbolic time chamber to get some extra sleep in, and though it may have been a joke, it certainly was already a possibility with Simple Scientific Solution. Right now though, Joe has enough magic skill to emulate time magic in a limited area, something that even modern Magi in Fate could do to some degree like the Emiya bloodline could.
I feel the need to defend Tai Chi. Chubster said that it barely qualified as a martial art. That is wrong. Tai Chi is a very serious martial art if it is actually trained for fighting. However, almost nobody does. They practice it as a dance/yoga like stretching routine. That's fine but the fact that most people have never seen it done for real means they see arm drags, snap downs, joint locks, grip stripping, etc. in the forms and don't recognize them and instead imagine that their moving chi balls and stuff. Trained for actual fighting though, by someone who's actually trained in the actual tradition of combat though and you have a very serious form of grapling and striking martial art that wouldn't be terribly out of place in modern mma.
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Kinda a tangent but chubster's whole deal is kind of terrifying. He CAN'T beat you fast. Instead he's more like the terminator or Michael Myers, the implacable man. It doesn't matter that he's not moving quickly. He WILL catch you eventually, and as soon as you fall into his grasp there's nothing you can do. You've already lost, and no matter how you struggle in the time it takes him to finish taking you down there's nothing you can do. If he decided to kill you, it would probably take a few minutes, but you'd be trapped, unable to do anything as your life is snuffed out before your eyes. Slowly. Inevitably.
Or he's the fat guy. Pick one.
Or he's the fat guy. Pick one.
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Now you've made me imagine that the Chubster was the result of that guy from the slowest murderer meme Triggering.