Pretty much. Remember how I mentioned of Asuka only getting the sexuality she desires when she has no control, but Shinji is in control? She has the reaction to that you'd expect from tumblr.
And yes, take Q Misato's literary analysis with a grain of salt. She's one of those people who are smart, but you need to understand their bias and tease that bias away to get at the real meat of their point.
She makes some odd mistakes, too, like declaring Asuka and Ritsuko are 'literally the same character' because they both 'saw their mothers die'. Er.... no? Asuka got there after Kyoko was already dead, and Ritsuko was nowhere near at all when Naoko took her header off the command deck.
 
She makes some odd mistakes, too, like declaring Asuka and Ritsuko are 'literally the same character' because they both 'saw their mothers die'. Er.... no? Asuka got there after Kyoko was already dead, and Ritsuko was nowhere near at all when Naoko took her header off the command deck.
Never try to understand the mind of a person with an agenda and a willingness to bend facts to fit said agenda. It's like trying to teach a Young Earth creationist about evolutionary biology.
 
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Never try to understand the mind of a person with an agenda and a willingness to bend facts to fit said agenda. It's like trying to teach a Young Earth creationist about evolutionary biology.
Well, there's 'agendas' and then there's 'agendas'. We all have our biases, and we can't completely divorce ourselves of them. Completely shutting someone out because 'they're biased' is only perpetuating the same sort of closed-mindedness you claim to be fighting.
 
Well, there's 'agendas' and then there's 'agendas'. We all have our biases, and we can't completely divorce ourselves of them. Completely shutting someone out because 'they're biased' is only perpetuating the same sort of closed-mindedness you claim to be fighting.
I worded that poorly. What I meant was that it's futile to try to change someone's mind when they're willing to ignore what's in front of their noses.
 
Hmm... with everything currently being discussed in mind... could Gendo plead insanity? And Yui?
Probably not. All these people were engaged in years, sometimes decades long plans. That usually prevents any form of insanity plea. Also, I think we can say they could differentiate between good and bad, they just didn't give a damn.

She makes some odd mistakes, too, like declaring Asuka and Ritsuko are 'literally the same character' because they both 'saw their mothers die'. Er.... no? Asuka got there after Kyoko was already dead, and Ritsuko was nowhere near at all when Naoko took her header off the command deck.
Mixing up continuities? In the manga, Ritsuko both watches Naoko's murder of Rei-I and her suicide. And then later on nearly strangles Rei-II herself...

Anyway, as for QMisato, she just doesn't like Shinji, I think, blaming him entirely for all the faults in A/S. Which of course I find really damn grating seeing that I blame Asuka for everything wrong with A/S :V So in a way what she writes comes off as almost victim blaming to me (though no doubt she'd say the same about me). As for K/S, I think it isn't so much that she 'hyper-idealizes' it, but for the most part just arguing that it is a thing. Or yes, maybe the thing as far as Shinji is concerned, but most what I've read on that tumblr in regards to K/S were complaints about its erasure in public perception.

And really, personally, I can somewhat support the notion that A/S is toxic (the way it develops in the series, it certainly is another drain on Shinji I'd say) and that if it weren't for the whole 'Tabris' business, Kaworu would maybe be the best partner for Shinji. But this constant Shinji-bashing on QMIsato is really, really annoying.

And what's even more annoying is her ideological bent, which sounds like the worst aspects of second wave feminism. Feminist criticism of works is okay, of course, but I think in the course of that she's seeing themes in NGE that are just not there, and what's more, she adheres to really annoying, backwards gender essentialist form of difference feminism. Which I just can't stand. Talks about "the feminine" and "the masculine", and how the former is mistreated and the latter is evil... blergh. Gender essentialism is the worst.

So, overall... I don't like the blog much.
 
I don't get why anyone ships based on canon alone.
Like in canon Shnji tries to handle relationships by pouring delicious hot sauce directly into his blood stream,
Asuka handles them like trying to get into the cookie jar.... By hitting it with a baseball bat repeatedly.
I am certain that describing any relationship based solely on canon will end in incessantly describing why one form of poison is better then another, while conveniently forgetting that they will all end with killing off both parties sooner, rather then later.
Which is why stories like Advice and Trust [NGE] are so well liked because they focus on fixing the relationships so that they go from 'slow suicide' to merely unhealthy. After all eating candy all the time might not be healthy, but its better then eating straight painkillers all the time.

 
Kaworu/Shinji a.k.a. Yaoi, lots and lots of Yaoi.
I really hope something happens in 3.0+1.0 to well and truly ruin that. It was clearly meant as bait to screw with the shippers, but its gotten out of hand. I've got it!

Another timeskip to after everything is over, and Shinji's just going about his day. And that's it. He lives alone (one set of clothes, one dresser, one set of bathroom products), and is shown doing housekeeping. The very last shot is him laying down to sleep with a picture on his nightstand, with him being married, but we can't see who he's marrying, only that it's a her (a single frame of a face, perhaps). Maybe subtle hints as to this not being real, but nothing conclusive, maybe in the paintings or outlines in the wallpaper. Just a quiet day in the life of Shinji Ikari.

That's the entire movie. I'd love to see what people try to pull out of that.


I'm a little bit evil, aren't I?
 
No. Trans exclusion is not what I meant with gender essentialism. Rather... you can base feminism off on two starting notions: That all the differences between men and women proclaimed by society are bullshit and that we need to free ourselves from those gender stereotypes dictating to our lives, or that those differences really exist and that female attributes, traits etc are undervalued. I.e., that there really are such thing as "the feminine" and "the masculine"; hence gender essences. While not a clear split, you find the former mostly in the third and the latter mostly in the second wave. And that latter I find to be simply a reproduction of the old sexist notions the patriarchy holds. It is itself sexist in its basic assumptions. Unfortunately, that is the view on "feminism" that blog seems to be hold.
 
What, Kaworu's head exploding wasn't sufficient?
Do you really think that something as small as death will stop some people? There are people who ship MCU Hawkeye with other guys. And he's happily married. With three children.

You need something really big. Like, a declaration of undying hate (which will only lead to hate-sex fics.)

Did I mention I hate it when people write out of character? I hate it so much I don't trust myself to write because I know I have issues keeping characters true to their personalities.
 
if it weren't for the whole 'Tabris' business, Kaworu would maybe be the best partner for Shinji
If it weren't for 'the Tabris business', Kaworu would be the shallow one-episode love interest that is never seen again. Take away the Angel part, and Kaworu just plain wouldn't act like he does, and be an entirely different OC. It bugs the Hell out of me that a shallow, desperation-and-lies based relationship is ever viewed as a better one than any of the others that the entire series spends developing. 'Told him some comforting nothings and lies when he was desperate' is far more toxic than the worst moments Shinji had with Asuka, Rei, or Misato.
 
If it weren't for 'the Tabris business', Kaworu would be the shallow one-episode love interest that is never seen again. Take away the Angel part, and Kaworu just plain wouldn't act like he does, and be an entirely different OC.
Well sure, that "if he weren't Tabris" distinction is maybe a bit artificial. He is like he is because he is in fact Tabris. But without the inevitable doom that comes with that, the inevitable tragedy, which isn't really Kaworu's fault... that's what I wanted to say. I have no idea how to go around that inevitability myself, but I also can't blame Kaworu for it. And I don't think he set out to deceive Shinji.
 
Do you really think that something as small as death will stop some people? There are people who ship MCU Hawkeye with other guys. And he's happily married. With three children.

You need something really big. Like, a declaration of undying hate (which will only lead to hate-sex fics.)

Did I mention I hate it when people write out of character? I hate it so much I don't trust myself to write because I know I have issues keeping characters true to their personalities.
So do I, it's part of the reason I really suck at dialogue when writing because often I wonder if what I'm writing is something a character would say in this manner or with these words and other times I just can't write out of fear of writing cheesy, corny, bland or overdone lines. To be fair though, I really should read more literature books instead of just history or science ones.
 
Bahahaha, I remember something like that happened in November of 2014. Yes, that was when Naruto manga ended.
Tumblr and some forums went absolutely batshit insane over the final pairings!

Just look at that.
It's like you can see the very moment their hearts break.

Now that I think about it, if Shinji had had his plugsuit on, the data it records could have shown the exact moment he saw the remains of Unit-02 via his vitals. We can finally pinpoint with perfect accuracy how long it takes for a person's heart to break after they see a horrifically upsetting event.

SCIENCE!
 
Bahahaha, I remember something like that happened in November of 2014. Yes, that was when Naruto manga ended.
Tumblr and some forums went absolutely batshit insane over the final pairings!

Just look at that.

Well, that was an interesting skim-through, if I ever saw one. Ship-fanaticisism at its best, truly.

As far as the Misato/Asuka topic goes, I share @akrasiel23's views on the matter. I believe Misato's inaction comes from seeing way too much of herself in Asuka, and not knowing how to deal with or speak about those problems, which would pretty much be the same as speaking about many of her own troubles.

The fact that she can't try the 'Shinji Strategy' on Asuka is probably another huge barrier in her way.
 
Did I mention I hate it when people write out of character? I hate it so much I don't trust myself to write because I know I have issues keeping characters true to their personalities.

I used to have that problem. No matter how hard I tried anything a character said sounded bland and generic. Then I wrote a Homestuck fic. Having page after page of pure dialogue between people with strongly distinct speaking styles more or less forced the understanding of how characters' personalities are communicated through their dialogue into my brain.

Now if only I could find something like that for breaking up dialogue with appropriate pauses and descriptions, and one for actually following through on ideas, we'd be in business.
 
She seems to think Shinji can only interact with Asuka by overriding who she is.

Most glaring is the kiss thing. That she only gets what she wants, but her consent is thrown out the window. She seems to becoming from this at the angle that Shini did not value her consent, actively wanted to subvert it, or both. More likely than that, he was terrified she'd tear him limb from limb. Because reacting violently is Asuka's hat.

At the risk of getting political, its a failing of progressives who get to the point of being so progressive they're backwards. A problematic act isn't just problematic, its problematic to an absolute degree. It leads to a lot of construing Action A as being equivalent to Action B, when... well, they just aren't.

Also they have a hard time comprehending outside views. Even ones that agree, but come at it a different way.

Also also, they tend to assume that a problematic act isn't just problematic. Its calculated and intentionally malicious. Someone might use poor language when approaching a subject - One they aren't familiar with - and be immediately burned.

That isn't to say some things shouldn't be criticized, of course. Only, theirs a sane way to go around about it.
 
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