- Location
- Canada
Unless that plan is for them to make a massive mistake by being emotional. Like hurting Yui's son. While she's in Unit-01. And your office is right above her.
Advice and Trust [NGE]
Lord Sovereign
The Emperor of shitty fanfic
- Location
- England
Ah.
Gendo must have done or said something really bad for the conversation to get here. If Shinji is asking about this, he seems to believe he has nothing to lose in said situation. Can't wait for this particular update...
- Location
- Online
...Okay, so maybe my "Shinji/Gendo confrontation" will happen, just not in the way i thought.
Matt R
Giant Robot Pilot
- Location
- North Dakota
I seem to recall Gendo having told him before (at Yui's empty grave?) that he'd destroyed all photos of her... is this what Shinji's referring to, or the stuff Yui told him about? Or Shinji's implicitly including the latter, and Gendo's only thinking about the former? (Or the other way around...)
akrasiel23
A wraith no more
- Location
- Peru
The problem is, he does have a lot to lose: his girlfriend, his friends, his adoptive parents. Honestly, Shinji should know better than to dig himself to such extreme because going against the puppetmaster without back up is, in general, a bad idea.
- Location
- in the trash
Pen-Pen: "Wark wark, wark wark wark!"
[Use someone else's lines, you plagiarising drunk!]
Itsune
Eldritch horror, Ship's Cat, Emergency Gunner.
- Location
- Somewhere in King County Washington
Ah, Question;
Does This Gendo know that Shinji knows about him destroying the Photo's?
If not, then Gendo is going to be asking who told the boy about that? How did they find out? Who else is/has been watching? Does this fit within the Scenario?... Questions, questions, Scenario destroying questions, and nary an acceptable answer insight.
Itsune
Eldritch horror, Ship's Cat, Emergency Gunner.
- Location
- Somewhere in King County Washington
GeshronTyler
Kleiner Giftzwerg
Unfortunately, young teenagers rarely have the emotional fortitude to just stoically deal with deeply emotional issues. If Shinji can keep from revealing the Children (besides Rei) have contacted their mothers in the EVAs, that Shinji and Asuka are engaging in a deeply emotional and physical relationship, and that Rei is off her meds and actively engaging with Asuka and Shinji, that would approach the best case scenario.
If Shinji were able to completely "tank" Gendo's browbeating, that might even make Gendo suspicious- if Shinji is making such an effort to keep from an emotional outburst, might that not be a sign of something to hide? Blowing up over Gendo destroying all physical artifacts that have emotional context to Yui might be the "safest" subject for that too happen with.
On the whole, I think Gendo wouldn't actually care if Shinji and Asuka are dating (underage sex is another thing), other than it gives Gendo a way to punish Shinji by interfering. Shinji doesn't have a role to play in the End of the World after all. Let the boy waste his energy in such a futile, senseless endeavor...
- Location
- Texas
It took me a while to notice there was a new chapter, and that I hadn't actually read it. All the previews made me think I had.
Anyway, it sounds to me like Shinji is trying to bring up his mother without admitting that he knows he's got her on his side. Gendo has to know where Yui is, and if Unit 01 helped Shinji get to the surface then Gendo should know that that means. The funny thing is, Gendo may just respond to Shinji saying "You took mother away from me" by saying "And YOU took Yui away from ME!". Could that be what Shinji is planning? Get Gendo to let slip something?
Anyway, it sounds to me like Shinji is trying to bring up his mother without admitting that he knows he's got her on his side. Gendo has to know where Yui is, and if Unit 01 helped Shinji get to the surface then Gendo should know that that means. The funny thing is, Gendo may just respond to Shinji saying "You took mother away from me" by saying "And YOU took Yui away from ME!". Could that be what Shinji is planning? Get Gendo to let slip something?
akrasiel23
A wraith no more
- Location
- Peru
You know what's the worst thing Gendo can say to Shinji? It's not anything hurtful or apathetic to him and it barely comes before a threat he can think to Shinji's loved ones: Tell him, detail by detail, thread by thread, that he is no different than him, that if anything happened to Asuka like it did to Yui Shinji would have taken the same road as himself without giving a damn of how many people he backstabbed in the process if it meant getting Asuka back. And the scary thing is that he's partially right because our heroes are too emotionally dependent on each other that such an scenario could cross their minds in their darkest moments.
- Location
- Canada
I think Shinji might have already faced that part of himself in this fic. Unless that was another one.
akrasiel23
A wraith no more
- Location
- Peru
Not yet as far as I remember.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
IIRC during Asuka's stay in the shadow realm, Rei brought it up to shinji that he was behaving like commander ikari
akrasiel23
A wraith no more
- Location
- Peru
Just checked that chapter again (Jesus, page four, how far have we come?), Rei only makes a mental note about him behaving like Gendo and never brings it up to him.
- Location
- supernatural
Not partially, competely in EOE Shinji killed the entire world because (maybe)Asuka refused be his last resort, Gendo would have done same thing if it was Yui rejecting him.akrasie: 7267029 said:
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
Na Gendo wouldn't have killed everyone, just himself.
BadRoad
a thousand miles
That would require self-awareness and empathy that Gendo might lack.
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
Of course, those people would have leverage, they just have so far been not doing enough thinking on how to use it. Yes, right now Gendo could basically isolate them and take them on one by one. Hopefully, they will learn from that.
Oh, and of course, my standard announcement that I still think Shinji is nothing like his father, and couldn't turn into his father even if he wanted to. Which he doesn't.
- Location
- Canada
Except for the times he caused third impact because he lost the girl (Dream!Asuka's rejection and Rei's absorption into Zeruel). You know, exactly the thing Gendo worked towards for a decade.
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
In EoE, Shinji outright snapped. Hell, he probably didn't even know what "Then they can all die!" would even mean. And in Rebuild, Shinji had literally no idea what his actions would cause.
Shinji is just too fundamentally nice and self-blaming to be anywhere near as ruthless as Gendo. He always puts other people first. He would have rather died than to kill any random other child - he didn't know it was Touji/Asuka in 03, after all, and yet he still would have rather died than to kill that pilot. Meanwhile, Gendo already was a shady, violent character even before he had met Yui. That wasn't just Yui's loss which made him what he is.
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- Location
- National Capital Region, USA
I agree, but he is close enough, and more importantly, he's afraid he is, that it's a valid concern. Albeit here in A&T, Shinji is far, far more angry specifically at his father than he was in canon, and with more to protect.
OTOH, I still agree Shinji would have to outright snap to even approach the levels of 'fuck everybody' Gendo does completely calmly.
- Location
- somewhere hot
Not a good idea to take an unfocused, unbalanced, antisocial little thug and turn him into an EXTREMELY FOCUSED unbalanced antisocial little thug.
Timerider
That guy who really should get out more.
- Location
- The End of the World.
I don't think Gendo would even consider bringing up his and Shinji's similarities, because he doesn't know they even exist. Keep in mind how self-absorbed and short-sighted Gendo is. The thought that they have anything other than DNA in common is almost inconceivable to him.
MarshalGraves
Warrior of Light
- Location
- Eorzea
Indeed. Gendo repeatedly 'celebrates' the fact that Shinji is easily-manipulated, a quality which I imagine he would be hard-pressed to find in himself. As outside viewers, we know he's rather...well....easily-manipulated if you know his trigger (Yui), but he wouldn't see that -in himself-.
In fact, I'm almost certain that the only reason Gendo even sees DNA as a commonality between himself and Shinji is that to even imagine otherwise introduces the possibility that -Yui cheated on him-. And that, he would never conceive of, much less be able to accept on any level, much less a calm, rational one.