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Advice and Trust [NGE]

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heh....Rei is making much more sense that they think....
i can't wait for their reactions to the reveal, perhaps with a callback to this chapter?
 
Very nice. I especially like the "nonsensical" rambling, although I didn't quite get it until the second instance.

Strypgia said:
Misato just stared for a long moment. "Goddamit, Rits..." she whispered. "What the Hell are you doing?" Her face hardened. "Alright. Show us to her," she said to Asuka.
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Should that be "Show her to us"?

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"Y-... you knew about this three months ago, and you're just telling me now?! Asuka, what the Hell were you think-" Misato exclaimed.

"Because NERV did this to her, Misato! And you're NERV!" Asuka shouted back, her hands slamming on the table. "Because I've got fucking issues with authority figures trying to drug me, and finding out that NERV has been drugging the shit out of my friend made me a little fucking worried about who I could trust anymore! I'm only even willing to do this because Shinji trusts you, I trust him, and you haven't blown the whistle on us to Commander Asshole! How was I supposed to be sure you'd never do something like this, if this has NERV's full approval?!"
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"She needs serious medical help, Asuka. Neither you or Shinji are a doctor. What you both are, however, is a pair of high visibility Pilots who's absence from school will be noticed. I'm not even sure I can keep Rei out of school without it raising flags at NERV HQ." Misato's eyes narrowed. "Speaking of medical attention, why is this the first I'm hearing about Rei being drugged. Why didn't you tell me about this when you complained about her apartment?"

"NERV did this to her. You're NERV. We weren't sure who we could trust at all, Misato," Asuka said a little angrily. "If Commander Ikari personally ordered this, who can Shinji and I trust? I'm only trusting you this much because Shinji does, and I knew you and Kaji from before." Asuka looked down at the sweating and shivering First Child. "We didn't tell you or anyone else because... there's not a single doctor in this entire city that doesn't either work for NERV or can't be leaned on by NERV. I know she needs a doctor but... who? Rei is... almost as important to me as Shinji. I... we have to help her, Misato. She needs us the way Shinji and I need each other."
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I can understand Misato asking the question twice in a stressful situation like this, but it seems a little strange for Asuka to give the same explanation twice without an "I already told you" thrown in somewhere.
 
BadRoad said:
I can understand Misato asking the question twice in a stressful situation like this, but it seems a little strange for Asuka to give the same explanation twice without an "I already told you" thrown in somewhere.
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Indeed. Fixed. I should do this when less tired...

tilkau said:
what the heck.
That chapter has a forward button. And it points at this post from October...
???
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I reordered the threadmarks so the story segments are all in one block, ahead of notes.
 
Oh boy.
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"Because my friend is in the middle of a Benzodiazpine overdose, shaking, incoherent, and we're concerned she might go into a coma," Asuka said calmly with no change of tone. "Shinji is staying with her, trying to keep her anchored in the real world. She's been in and out of touch with reality for a while."
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"I have your attention? Good." Asuka worked her jaw. "You wanted us to prove we're mature and can be trusted with handling adult matters? Well here it is. I didn't want this. But on the advice and trust of my beloved baka, I'm willing to trust you not to take this to NERV."
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Well Asuka sure knows how to make a point, I'll give her that. Not to mention this further pushes Misato out of NERV's (and by NERV I mean Gendo's) alignment. Now as was mentioned before, if Kaji or Misato cotton onto what Rei is saying, that's important. But what might be bigger is how much of this Rei will remember. If she dismisses it as the withdrawls (Which is reasonable) then it's up to the adults, or else this becomes a "Wait, she wasn't crazy?!" reaction later on. If Rei decides that maybe there is something to whatever this is though. Well things get interesting at that point.
 
Holeeeee. Looks like the overdose plus the detox attempt has blown open the link between Rei, Lilith, and Unit-00. Seems she's experiencing sensations from all 3 simultaneously with no filter. That's gotta be disorienting, especially if she wasn't expecting it.
 
Oh man. And now I'm wondering ...
IcePickLobotomy said:
Well Asuka sure knows how to make a point, I'll give her that. Not to mention this further pushes Misato out of NERV's (and by NERV I mean Gendo's) alignment. Now as was mentioned before, if Kaji or Misato cotton onto what Rei is saying, that's important. But what might be bigger is how much of this Rei will remember. If she dismisses it as the withdrawls (Which is reasonable) then it's up to the adults, or else this becomes a "Wait, she wasn't crazy?!" reaction later on. If Rei decides that maybe there is something to whatever this is though. Well things get interesting at that point.
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JumperPrime said:
Holeeeee. Looks like the overdose plus the detox attempt has blown open the link between Rei, Lilith, and Unit-00. Seems she's experiencing sensations from all 3 simultaneously with no filter.
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Yeah, agreed on all fronts here. I think were getting close to the turning point here, folks, unless Stryp is gonna be a tease about it. :p
 
Stryp said in a post in between 8.15 and 8.16 that she was planning on telling Shinji and Asuka the link between her and Lilith today.

That being said, I'm with IPL here: If either Kaji or Misato connect the dots to Lilith when Rei is talking about what she's feeling, I can see it going such that Misato goes "Well, Rits, I understand why you drugged Rei, now. But I'm putting this bullet in your brain and then Gendo's regardless because you decided it was a good idea to FUCKING CLONE ANGELS."

Or a reaction similar to that. Mostly the latter, not so much the former.
 
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Ouch. Poor guys, all of them.
Strypgia said:
What you both are, however, is a pair of high visibility Pilots who's absence from school will be noticed.
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Shouldn't that be "whose"?
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shot a look back towards kitchen.
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Kitchen called; it's missing the article.
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Worst case, we get her on her feet tomorrow, I drop you all off just out of sight of the school, and as long as she can walk in to class and be there for the roll, I can pick her up right after and get her back here," Misato said.
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Should be "into", I think.
BadRoad said:
Should that be "Show her to us"?
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Nope, that's actually correct.
 
Holy shit, this update has me on the edge. The tension is rising...and for once, it's not because there's an angel (or three) on the horizon. I can't believe that the coming angels (especially when one considers exactly which angels they are) actually feel like small potatoes for once.

When I read Rei's ramblings and put two and two together....brrrrr, chilly.

And, the title drop? Loved it! The trope page had called it an 'Artifact Title'. Not anymore! :)

Good work @Strypgia! Looking forward immensely to the next update.
 
... My heart goes out to those three kids. I'm more used to the fics where Rei's nature as a half-Angel gives her physiology such superhuman resilience that she doesn't suffer this much from a drug overdose. Emotional nihility, maybe, but all those extreme withdrawal syndromes bordering on total psychosis? Not much of that.

Jake said:
That's achievable, but it's going to cost some serious money. I suggest starting a thread in the Tech Support subforum to get the input of people more knowledgeable than I.
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I'll look into that when I get the time.

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Asuka took a deep breath. "For I don't know how long, but at least as far back as Shinji or I have known her and well before that Doctor Akagi," Asuka snarled the name. "Has been forcing Rei to take a Hell-brew cocktail of sedatives, tranquilizers, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives.
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I believe this is missing some punctuation and has some capitalization errors. My correction below, with changes in lime-green bold font:

Asuka took a deep breath. "For I don't know how long, but at least as far back as Shinji or I have known her and well before that, Doctor Akagi," Asuka snarled the name, "has been forcing Rei to take a Hell-brew cocktail of sedatives, tranquilizers, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives.
 
That chapter hits heavily, man. Even heavier than a violent action scene.

What does this tell us? Sometimes, real life and its consequences can be scarier than fictional monstrosities. Brrr.
 
I felt bad for Rei, but I didn't feel it like you guys are describing it

The ramblings about what Rei was referring to regarding her circumstances with Lillith and Unit 00 kind of just shattered that element of it for me
 
Excellent update! And i have no pics to post... hell i haven't had any for a while :(

Days until Shinji and Asuka are allowed to lewd each other.... still counting.
 
Hi, I'm new!

Been loving this fic so far, started reading it last week, got overcome by the WAFF, and now I come home every day a puddled mess on my bed because of how clingy Shinji and Asuka are. Productivity has been lowered by about 30% *shakes fist*

Anyway, I don't mean to be pedantic, but from what I remember from my pharmachem classes ~2 years ago, Antagonists won't help with the overdose much. Antagonists work by keeping an agonist from acting on a receptor. Kinda like putting a bouncer on a nightclub entrance. Now, the antagonist won't likely do anything if the agonist is already at the receptor. In fact, they'll be competing for receptor sites. It *might* keep Rei from getting worse, but for now, Rei needs to wait until the benzodiazepine runs its course and gets flushed out of her system... Which could take a week if my guesstimate from the Pharmacokinetic chart for benzodiazepine checks out. Benzodiazepine, by the way, acts like an agonist, but my cursory search doesn't flat out say it is one. So I'm going with "technically" an agonist. Technically correct is the best kind of correct, after all.
 
Hexokinase said:
Hi, I'm new!

Been loving this fic so far, started reading it last week, got overcome by the WAFF, and now I come home every day a puddled mess on my bed because of how clingy Shinji and Asuka are. Productivity has been lowered by about 30% *shakes fist*

Anyway, I don't mean to be pedantic, but from what I remember from my pharmachem classes ~2 years ago, Antagonists won't help with the overdose much. Antagonists work by keeping an agonist from acting on a receptor. Kinda like putting a bouncer on a nightclub entrance. Now, the antagonist won't likely do anything if the agonist is already at the receptor. In fact, they'll be competing for receptor sites. It *might* keep Rei from getting worse, but for now, Rei needs to wait until the benzodiazepine runs its course and gets flushed out of her system... Which could take a week if my guesstimate from the Pharmacokinetic chart for benzodiazepine checks out. Benzodiazepine, by the way, acts like an agonist, but my cursory search doesn't flat out say it is one. So I'm going with "technically" an agonist. Technically correct is the best kind of correct, after all.
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*Stares at last paragraph*

You know, until just a moment ago, I was convinced I spoke English. But with some of those words, I'm no longer sure. :p

In any case, hi! Welcome to SV. :)
 
Sometimes in my workplace I get the same reaction: SPEAK. ENGLISH. Sucks being the only pure chemist in an office full of engineers.
 
Hexokinase said:
Sometimes in my workplace I get the same reaction: SPEAK. ENGLISH. Sucks being the only pure chemist in an office full of engineers.
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With that username and avatar? Colour me surprised. :p I often get the same reactions when I start talking about my field. Guess some things are always the same across all disciplines.

Kinda awesome to have a chemist here, though. I might come back to you and ask questions. Hope you don't mind. :D
 
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I have my pharma book with me. While most BZD have short t1/2, many have ... how is it called in English? metabolic products with similar effect. Flumazenil is an competitive antagonist of BDZ and it can in fact reduce the effectiveness of BDZ. BDZ's side effects included tiredness, reduced concentration, anterograde amnesia, reduce memory, and other rarer stuffs like motor incoordination, and aggressiveness.
So chances are good Rei won't remember the episode.
Also, BDZ overdose would have put her under :p.
 
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