DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
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- San Diego, California
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- He/Him
I don't know why but I just pictured a post story Kaworu and Rei hunting down the members of SEELE ala post WW2 Nazi hunters.
Advice and Trust [NGE]
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- Canada
You know, I never was quite able to parse the whole "Kaworu has Adam's soul" thing. As far as I can tell, based on the show, he was created from a sample of human genetic material that was introduced to Adam in the contact experiment that cause 2I. But it's also stated that Adam's soul was not recovered until well after 2I in the Evangelion Classified Information book. And in the EoE theatrical booklet, it's said that Kaworu was simply an Angel that SEELE captured while it was in embryonic state, which only muddies the question further.
Look up the book "Destination ?" if you would like the life story of someone who actually did that after surviving the Holocaust.
I am strangely conflicted. On the one hand, I very much like A&T and look forward to each new chapter. OTOH, It's been a long time since A Crown of Stars was updated and the stopping point was a cliffhanger so I would very much enjoy seeing it continued. In the final analysis, it's really up to you which fic you write, and I will enjoy whichever fic you update next
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- Online
This is just my opinion, not a suggestion to Stryp: Personally i would prefer another KSK omake.
Again this is just my opinion, not a suggestion.
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- National Capital Region, USA
Contra this, we know that Manga!Kaworu (sometimes known as EMK) was 9 days old when he arrived in Tokyo-3. Yes, 9 days. He'd just been cloned up and made right before being sent. Hence why I doubt Kaworu himself is a product of 2I. If he was created too early, Gendo and Yui would have known about him.
Tricky, since the next one I had in mind was that weekend they established that 3 close friends could fit in a 2-man tent.
I might do that, since I think I worked out part of the next scene tonight. It's a dark one, so fit my mood. And I've got 80% of the next one already written, since that's the climax I worked out years ago.
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- Canada
This only raises further questions!
The Englanderish
Schrödinger's Kuudere Kitty Caliph(a)
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- Califat de Chats
... Oh dear...
Take your time, Stryp.
Gendo's plan involved Rei, his hand, Adam and Lilith; no Eva needed. Presumably.
SEELE's revolved around the MP Evas, but we never got to see what it involved fully. Obviously, the manga showed a version, but who knows if it's representative of what anime-SEELE had in mind. They never really made a fuss about Unit-01's pilot, so it's safe to assume it didn't matter.
Yui is a bit more complicated; we don't have a full picture of if Shinji was supposed to be sunning himself on a tropical island as Gendo's spoiled son, or if Yui thought he had to be there for her plan to work and was prepared to subject even her beloved son to mental torture to achieve her ends... or anything in between.
Take your time, Stryp.
For SEELE and Gendo, I don't think they cared.
Gendo's plan involved Rei, his hand, Adam and Lilith; no Eva needed. Presumably.
SEELE's revolved around the MP Evas, but we never got to see what it involved fully. Obviously, the manga showed a version, but who knows if it's representative of what anime-SEELE had in mind. They never really made a fuss about Unit-01's pilot, so it's safe to assume it didn't matter.
Yui is a bit more complicated; we don't have a full picture of if Shinji was supposed to be sunning himself on a tropical island as Gendo's spoiled son, or if Yui thought he had to be there for her plan to work and was prepared to subject even her beloved son to mental torture to achieve her ends... or anything in between.
octobersanctuary
Self-appointed Master of Ceremonies
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- New Zealand
@Strypgia
I just read about what's happened and I can unequivocally say that you have absolutely nothing to be sorry for.
As someone who we all have to thank for this wonderful, wonderful fic and this enjoyably crazy thread -
for you to have to deal with this sort of crap (alongside everything else offline) is disgusting, shitty and unfair.
I can't apologize enough for not noticing the problem with Susano earlier and doing something to help.
If there is anything we can do on our end to make your job on this thread easier please do not hesitate to ask.
Sorry if the language is inappropriate - If it is I'll change it immediately
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Here, here.
@Strypgia
I too apologize. I follow Susano on his NGE thread, and at the time I just thought he was shooting his mouth off to the point someone was going to call a mod on him, and only learned of your post and how much he upset you much later. It's people like you who got me interested in fanfction, let alone EVA, in the first place. Hell, because of this fic and Xander Quest over on SB, I'm in the middle of planning my own EVA quest in the style of the latter. To find out I let you down in your time of need hurts more than I can put into words. Take all of the time you need; we'll be waiting, to either support you in your time of need, or to enjoy whatever you decide to do with this.
Just don't let one person ruin what you've spent these last few years building. Whatever help you need, I'll be there. This fic has helped me through some tough times, the recent death of my aunt from cancer among them; the very least I can do is return the favor.
The Englanderish
Schrödinger's Kuudere Kitty Caliph(a)
- Location
- Califat de Chats
i could give some scientific help too - though I guess most of it would be "this is all wrong and can't possibly work this way" 
Lord Sovereign
The Emperor of shitty fanfic
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- England
I've heard the horror stories of ISIS...fucking barbarians need to be ground back into the dirt they came from.
I thought I was absolutely alone in being irritated by Susano. How unfortunate that I was wrong...take all the time you need chum. As a writer myself, I can't imagine how soul destroying it must be for one person's petulance to turn something you love into a chore. My apologies for contributing to all those arguments that somewhat wrecked the thread in times gone past, god damn I was an idiot back then. But when I look back, I realise that my views have changed a little bit overtime, but oh sweet Jesus, Susano has actually been at this for two years straight, what the actual fu-
Ah never mind, just stay safe out there and get yourself home in one piece. We're all thinking of you.
Alas, I have no help to offer in the writing department, as I am nowhere near as capable as half the people who post here. The best I can do is...offer emotional support? And even then, I'm pretty shit at that...
I thought I was absolutely alone in being irritated by Susano. How unfortunate that I was wrong...take all the time you need chum. As a writer myself, I can't imagine how soul destroying it must be for one person's petulance to turn something you love into a chore. My apologies for contributing to all those arguments that somewhat wrecked the thread in times gone past, god damn I was an idiot back then. But when I look back, I realise that my views have changed a little bit overtime, but oh sweet Jesus, Susano has actually been at this for two years straight, what the actual fu-
Ah never mind, just stay safe out there and get yourself home in one piece. We're all thinking of you.
Alas, I have no help to offer in the writing department, as I am nowhere near as capable as half the people who post here. The best I can do is...offer emotional support? And even then, I'm pretty shit at that...
Turing Decidable
𝕘𝕒𝕣𝕗
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Let's not indulge in "Ding dong the witch is dead" too much, shall we?
Lord Sovereign
The Emperor of shitty fanfic
- Location
- England
Sorry...got a bit carried away...
greensun
You shall all burn beneath my light!!!
Seriously, though, SEELE probably thought that Rei was a n engineered human, created to pilot the Evangelions and fight Angels. They just didn't think that Rei had Lilith's soul.
You know, @Strypgia , I've been thinking about this a bit recently.
Not to put too fine a point on it, I think I may have been unintentionally doing a lot of the similar stuff that has been draining your motivation. Arguing in threads about the (im)morality of characters, voicing disagreements, starting arguments, that sort of thing. I honestly didn't consider it too much of a big deal. To some extent, this is pretty much what I and many others do on this site. I enjoy discussion, and I don't mind getting combative about it.
I quite honestly forgot that for you, this thread is more than just another story thread, but also an escape from a world that is so unbelievably awful that I cannot even imagine it. Or do not even want to. Not to mention your separation from your family. And also dealing with shitposters, though I imagine that to be the least of your worries at the moment.
So I want to apologise for that. I can't exactly promise that I'll always agree with you or won't criticise this story, as I've often done it in the past with the best of intentions (and being critical is pretty much what I do ), but I'll try my hardest to keep in mind what this story means to you as well.
If you want to take a break, go take a break. If you want to work on something else, you should -- having several writing projects in the pipeline can help get the creative writing going in interesting ways. And if you need someone to talk to, I'm around as well, though I imagine you have better friends and colleagues that you can choose to turn to. And that's not me being bitter, that's me being glad you have so many close friends you trust.
But yeah. Just wanted to let you and the others here know what I've been thinking about this entire thing, and that I have the highest respect for you as a person, your service, your writing, and your work for our community.
Not to put too fine a point on it, I think I may have been unintentionally doing a lot of the similar stuff that has been draining your motivation. Arguing in threads about the (im)morality of characters, voicing disagreements, starting arguments, that sort of thing. I honestly didn't consider it too much of a big deal. To some extent, this is pretty much what I and many others do on this site. I enjoy discussion, and I don't mind getting combative about it.
I quite honestly forgot that for you, this thread is more than just another story thread, but also an escape from a world that is so unbelievably awful that I cannot even imagine it. Or do not even want to. Not to mention your separation from your family. And also dealing with shitposters, though I imagine that to be the least of your worries at the moment.
So I want to apologise for that. I can't exactly promise that I'll always agree with you or won't criticise this story, as I've often done it in the past with the best of intentions (and being critical is pretty much what I do
), but I'll try my hardest to keep in mind what this story means to you as well.If you want to take a break, go take a break. If you want to work on something else, you should -- having several writing projects in the pipeline can help get the creative writing going in interesting ways. And if you need someone to talk to, I'm around as well, though I imagine you have better friends and colleagues that you can choose to turn to. And that's not me being bitter, that's me being glad you have so many close friends you trust.
But yeah. Just wanted to let you and the others here know what I've been thinking about this entire thing, and that I have the highest respect for you as a person, your service, your writing, and your work for our community.
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James Crimson
Good Story Hunter
- Location
- USA
I wasn't aware of this update, and if I've caused you any inconveniences I apologize. You obviously have more than enough to deal with without me adding to it.
Also, don't be sorry about me coming in at a bad time. That was just awful timing (and not browsing what I'd missed as I normally do) on my part.
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akrasiel23
A wraith no more
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- Peru
I think I too have to apologise @Strypgia.
Although I didn't joined this ride as long as some of the others have, I did noticed that Susano had at times a choice of words that couldn't be called neutral whenever he and I got dragged into a discussion, I didn't called him out on it because I wanted to be polite but in hindsight, I really should have done so; I also apologise if I annoyed you, which I'm sure I did at least once in this thread back when Ritsuko had reach bottom.
You know, I really should have realized sooner how much A&T was as much as a story as was a way to deal with fighting against ISIS, away from your wife and family, I read once about Tolkien's life after fighting in WWI and I guess that what influenced him to write LotR the way he did is the same reason why you prefer to write WAFF instead of going dark with your story. I can't truly imagine what it must be, I'm no soldier myself and just have family in the military to tell me tales about it, but for what is worth, you have the support of all of us Stryp.
Although I didn't joined this ride as long as some of the others have, I did noticed that Susano had at times a choice of words that couldn't be called neutral whenever he and I got dragged into a discussion, I didn't called him out on it because I wanted to be polite but in hindsight, I really should have done so; I also apologise if I annoyed you, which I'm sure I did at least once in this thread back when Ritsuko had reach bottom.
You know, I really should have realized sooner how much A&T was as much as a story as was a way to deal with fighting against ISIS, away from your wife and family, I read once about Tolkien's life after fighting in WWI and I guess that what influenced him to write LotR the way he did is the same reason why you prefer to write WAFF instead of going dark with your story. I can't truly imagine what it must be, I'm no soldier myself and just have family in the military to tell me tales about it, but for what is worth, you have the support of all of us Stryp.
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- the Netherrealm
I'll be brief in this case: @Strypgia, though I've been here only a short while A&T never failed to brighten my day with every update.
I can only say that i'm really thankful, and wish for much inspiration and enjoyment on your path for your craft.
My english vocab is rather ls rather limited in this situation though, so i'll just end this bit with a simple request: 'Please take good care of yourself, man'
I can only say that i'm really thankful, and wish for much inspiration and enjoyment on your path for your craft.
My english vocab is rather ls rather limited in this situation though, so i'll just end this bit with a simple request: 'Please take good care of yourself, man'
- Location
- Canada
@Strypgia I feel like I should apologize for my role in being part of what shat up this thread, seeing as I was one of those who most commonly engaged with Susano. As a result, I'm probably going to stop posting here for a while, seeing as I too have opinions that I can't help but defend and vocalize ad nauseam, and that's not fair for you or others in this thread to deal with. Thanks for putting up with my personal brand of bullshit.
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- Texas
All I have to say is, writing anything on my own story is like pulling teeth. I am progressing, which is much better than before the beginning of this year, in which I hadn't been able to get anything done for two years. But it's still been a month since I posted the last chapter and despite WANTING to continue with the current chapter, I just can't seem to find the time to. And I know I've had times when I posted a chapter a week. So it's not that I'm busy, I'm just... preoccupied.
So it's just something that has to come as it comes. And I haven't even had anyone be harsh with me or make me feel depressed. So you have my sympathies and I DON'T blame you for either taking a break or any action you took in moderating your own thread. I know that you'll pick it back up when you're good and ready.
Thanks for not spoilering the ending though.
So it's just something that has to come as it comes. And I haven't even had anyone be harsh with me or make me feel depressed. So you have my sympathies and I DON'T blame you for either taking a break or any action you took in moderating your own thread. I know that you'll pick it back up when you're good and ready.
Thanks for not spoilering the ending though.
Quadhelix
Professional Windmill Hunter
I can't help but wonder if one way to solve this issue would be for posters to make sure to move these sorts of discussions to the Evangelion Megathread, or for us to keep an "A&T Off-topic Discussions" thread in the Fiction Discussion forum.
Thus, if one wanted to continue the discussion of whether SEELE would have known that Rei had Lilith's soul, that poster could quote @greensun's post above, reply to it in the appropriate thread, then quote their reply here so that other posters could see that the discussion had moved.
E.g. --
That said, I'm not sure if doing that would actually solve @Strypgia's concerns about getting bogged down in emotionally draining debates.
Turing Decidable
𝕘𝕒𝕣𝕗
- Location
- Belgium
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- He/Him
I'd been considering the same thing, actually, but I feel it'd be difficult to determine when it's appropriate to move the discussion. If tempers are flaring by the time it's suggested, it's already too late.
You know, the Kaworu thing makes me realize that SEELE could have had perfectly good, healthy young bodies. Brew up some spare bodies, do a mental scan and stuff themselves in those skulls. Even if those didn't have much longevity, they could use a series of short-term cloned bodies while more long-term bodies cooked.
Of course, immortality is only half the package. They also want to lord over everyone else absolutely. Plus, I bet the transhumanist elements probably put them off.
Of course, immortality is only half the package. They also want to lord over everyone else absolutely. Plus, I bet the transhumanist elements probably put them off.
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- Surrey
Why would you want to clone into a crappy human body when you could turn yourself into an immortal spacegod.