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Advice and Trust [NGE]

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akrasiel23 said:
Oh crap. Now they are going to force the Bastard King's hand.

Since Rei and Shinji are still vital to the scenario that means that Gendo is not going to risk them when Armisael arrives.

And since Asuka and Kaworu are disposable in his eyes…this is bad.
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Although, Asuka has great use as leverage against Shinji, leaving us with two pilots, one of whom Gendo considers not just expendable, but preferable as a casualty. And it's not Hikari.
 
MoroseMobius said:
Although, Asuka has great use as leverage against Shinji, leaving us with two pilots, one of whom Gendo considers not just expendable, but preferable as a casualty. And it's not Hikari.
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We can't be sure that Kaworu will still be around when Armisael shows up, though, if Kaworu decides to go get rid of SEELE first (of course, he's got a decent chance of surviving that action, but 'decent chance' is not the same as 'certainty'). I mean, they hurt Rei.
 
If Rei does live, I have a feeling she'll be even more scared of having feelings for Kaworu or accept her feelings for him. Either way, she's probably lost her footing on the fence.
 
@Strypgia
Oh yeah, the crap finally hits the fan! Can't wait for more!

I've been thinking. Y'know, Kaworu strongly reminded me of Dexter. At least the canon version of him did -- and it was creeping me the hell out. Why? Because he's the same, empty vessel, mimicring emotions and adapting to any person (oh, and mech).
This one... I like much more. I'm still not a fan of him, though, he's still a creep, even with your added humanization. He's genuinely feeling in this fic, and that's what's really attractive.
In fact, I believe that the rounded, fleshed-out characters is where you're the strongest.

Short version: making me actually like Kaworu is deserving of a medal :)

Well done.
 
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Fuck. FUCK. I hate being (kinda) right about bad shit.

Better-than-even chances Kaworu comes back to Rei collapsed and he leaves school. Assuming he does and he knows why Rei collapsed, odds are he shows up to Misato's late that night covered in SEELE agents' blood.

Yes, plural.

Anyway, now we know SEELE knows a not-insignificant amount about Gendo's scenario (enough that destroying the Reiquarium is a significant blow), and I'm sure the Bastard King is gonna be real pleasant going forward now that he knows SEELE knows.

Yaaay.
 
You know, I had a thought. Maybe SEELE thought they were going after the Dummy Plug production facility and didn't realize it had any connection to Rei.
 
ToothMaker said:
Except SEELE wouldn't have needed three of their deepest cover agents to just kill Rei, getting to the Reiquarium on the other hand....
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Taking Stryp's Insightful tag on that comment as confirmation, so new theory.

In canon, when Ritsuko throws the switch on Destrudo Release, we see a list on the tablet in her hand of Reis being affected. It starts with Rei-4, meaning Ritsuko didn't include Reis who were dead or active at the time. This makes sense: there was no point in including the dead Reis, and it wouldn't do to kill an active pilot.

The SEELE operatives, by contrast, just threw the switch on all of the Reis, including the active one. It's unclear whether they actually intended to do this last: they were working on a beyond-top-secret system without proper documentation and time, and might nor have known how to make the necesssary adjustments.

Getting into personal theories on canon, I think Destrudo Release is exactly what it says on the tin: a crude but powerful shot of raw human death-drive (as named by Sigmund Freud). The Rei clones, lacking souls of their own, would have no defense against this, and simply die in the quickest and moat expedient method available to them: collapsing into LCL.

Gendo and Ritsuko realized, of course, that this was a critical weakness in their system. Rei could be replaced if killed, but what if she and the clones were all killed at once? Destrudo Release was one of the few things that could do that, and this put their plan in jeopardy. Precautions would have to be taken. So they designed a pharmaceutical cocktail, including extremely high doses of antidepressants...
 
MoroseMobius said:
Gendo: "You could have just said you wanted to see other people, you know."
Ritsuko, post kiss: "You're taking this very well."
Gendo: "It's not like I have the moral high-ground here."
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Ritsuko: Though I do wonder what your wife, who is basically a God at this point, would think about all women you're sleeping with?
Gendo: Oh no, I'm not worried about that, Yui and myself were quite open minded.
Ritsuko: Oh my god.
Gendo: The things we got up to... Why I remember all the times with your Mother and father...
Ritsuko: OH MY GOD
Gendo: Though, hmmm...
Ritsuko: What on earth is now!?
Gendo: Well there is something... All of use were on a lot of E and cocaine at the time, but I remember Ms Ibuki fondly. And her daughter has a similar face to myself and Shinij...
Ritsuko: What.
 
greensun said:
Ritsuko: Though I do wonder what your wife, who is basically a God at this point, would think about all women you're sleeping with?
Gendo: Oh no, I'm not worried about that, Yui and myself were quite open minded.
Ritsuko: Oh my god.
Gendo: The things we got up to... Why I remember all the times with your Mother and father...
Ritsuko: OH MY GOD
Gendo: Though, hmmm...
Ritsuko: What on earth is now!?
Gendo: Well there is something... All of use were on a lot of E and cocaine at the time, but I remember Ms Ibuki fondly. And her daughter has a similar face to myself and Shinij...
Ritsuko: What.
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Maya: I am supremely uncomfortable.
 
Turing Decidable said:
All we can do is watch as this perfectly innocent and wholesome family is corrupted beyond all hope of recovery by one man going full Evil Author mode. :o
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Well when you put it that way, I wanna see what Strype does when he's trying to write dark. Not full-tilt grimdark, any chump diggity can just murder character after character, but a really well-fleshed-out dark and brutal world that still has its silver linings, maybe with a bittersweet ending.

Actually, Strype, I don't know if you've mentioned it before, but do you have any original fiction you want read? I don't even necessarily want to critique it, just read it.
 
I was worried for a minute at the devious Gendo image, but then I realized it could've been a lot worse:

He could have used Kane.
 
MoroseMobius said:
Or worse, Yuri. At least Kane is sane with potentially benign goals, for the most part.
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Oh shit son!!!



Been playing Red Alert 2 again for days now. I don't know why I never played as Soviet!Iraq before when I was younger, the Desolator is awesome (and in Yuri's Revenge can cripple Yuri's economy, since it pretty much stops the Slave Drivers from getting resources by denying the whole ore field).
 
I wonder if Rei's collapse and the destruction of the Reiquarium will trigger Rei and/or Kaworu confessing to Shinji and Asuka.
 
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