Ummm...it's usually a very good thing to have your ending planned out, as at least you have an idea of where you are going, hence making the writing more coherent. The alternative...isn't so good...
While I would agree that having the ending planned out is good, forcing your story to the ending when your writing has taken it in a somewhat different direction would be doubleplusungood. For instance, when Stryp originally planned the ending for A&T, he didn't plan that Asuka and Shinji would become so close to Rei. Should he then throw all that out the window to force the story back into the ending as he originally conceived it? I can think of one ME story I read where the first two volumes of it were pretty damn good, diverging from the ending of ME2 both relationship-wise and Cerberus-wise, only for the third volume to sorta-end with an author's note stating that a)they were abandoning the story, and b)they had been planning to railroad it right into where ME3 started.
 
I gotta say that reading through the forum topic makes me a little sad, seeing all the dicussions I would love to have joined.
WHAT? NO! DON'T DO THAT! THAT'S HELL YOU'RE WALKING INTO!

Seriously, I took a entire month reading this thread, only some parts are worth the trouble, like the origins of the memes and some parts of the shipping wars *raise the OT3 flag*.
 
Well, well, well. The christmas special is canon? Because that looks like an answer to my question from my very first post.
It might become canon, if memory serves.
Yup. 'Now' is December 10th, 2015, a couple days after Misato's birthday. The Christmas Party is still 2 weeks in the 'future'. It might become canon if I can connect things.

Writing now. Was busy at a protest in front of the White House for part of the afternoon. :V
 
Same here.

So, back on topic.

Welcome, new guys, enjoy, the poster's going to be in Baghdad for a while.

Still, I wonder what would happen in scenario:

Asuka gets Planescape Torment to play.

The Children start a heavy metal band.

They tell bonfire stories; I wonder if Asuka knows about Johnson and the Devil Blues...
 
Chapter 10.9
Nah, you know what? It's time for an update.

Yes, a real one. I stayed up late when I could have been in a nice warm bed with @LilithPrime, so I hope you all enjoy this. 2400 words of playing with a fish's mind.

@octobersanctuary, @Glitchrr36, @memoriesofglory, @Sucal, @Dion, @Naughtilus, @ComradeH, this is for you.

Art?




Chapter 10.9
Choices and Sacrifices

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"Shinji, Asuka… may I ask a favor?"

Shinji exchanged a sidelong look with Asuka as he lowered his bow after the end of their latest piece. Playing together had been remarkably easy, like they'd been doing it for weeks. "Of course, Rei. Anything," he replied.

Rei put her viola away before answering. "Could you both… wait in the kitchen for a while? I… wish to discuss something with Nagisa that relates to the… matters we cannot mention to you yet. But Commander Ikari and his watchers believe Nagisa and I to be bitter enemies. I do not want the Commander to realize we are allies and friends now. He would likely take action against both of us. He would notice if we spent time alone together. But as long as you are here, our being together can be passed off as you two acting as moderators," she said, sounding both awkward and nervous. "He and I will withdraw to my room, and speak as briefly as possible. If… you do not mind acting as our cover?"

"Let me get this straight," Asuka said with a growing smirk. "You want us to go as far away as we can without leaving the apartment and not listen, while you and Rainbow Trout here go into your bedroom for a 'private conference'? Have I got that right?"

Rei flushed slightly. "Asuka, you know it is not like that." She hunched her shoulders defensively, managing to look like a child caught in a mildly naughty act. "We are… just friends."

"Of course you are, Rei," Asuka assured her, smirk diminishing not a bit. "We'll just leave you alon-"

"Asuka…" Shinji gently chided her, prodding her in the side with a finger. "Be nice. Rei's still recovering from that fight. Kaworu-kun too."

Asuka pouted for a moment, but let her smile fade away into a more serious expression. "Aww, alright."

Shinji squeezed Rei's shoulder gently. "Of course, Rei. Take as much time as you need. We know whatever it is you're holding back must be important. We trust you, you know that." He looked at Kaworu. "And Kaworu-kun too. You say he's ok, and that's enough for us."

"And if she does want something from you, Trout, you better do what she says," Asuka said to Kaworu, mock-sternly. "We'll cover for you, don't worry, Rei."

Rei closed her eyes. "Thank you."

Rei pinned the silent Fifth Child with her eyes. He's stood still and looked nervously stiff during the whole exchange. "Follow," she told him, heading for her room with her viola case.

He shot a nervous look at the retreating Second and Third Children before swallowing and falling in behind her.

Rei waved him into her room ahead of him, and closed the door behind herself once she'd followed him in. "I take it from your behavior and the state of your AT-Field that my gift to you was… effective?"

Kaworu had frozen solid once the door had clapped shut, going rigid as a statue staring at Rei's neatly made futon at his feet, and the silk robe hastily discarded across it. The sound of Rei's voice nearly made him jump. He spun in place, his eyes wide and face flushed red as he met her cool expression. "Y-yes! It… I… gaaaah!" His hands flew up to wildly worry at his temples. "It's all I can think about! Y-you are all over my mind! I nearly fell down and just kind of flopped around gurgling when you opened the door! How are you doing this to me?!"

"I am given to understand this is in fact a normal reaction to being given a box like that," Rei said calmly, only the faintest note of irony in her voice. "Welcome to the Lilim race."

"But I'm not!" he protested.

"Did you not tell me on the day we met that we had the same form? That we were alike?" Rei countered.

"But… I'm not! We may both be half-Lilim, half-Progenitor, but at least both your halves are Lilith-based! I am… different!"

Rei looked imperious, almost angry. "You are the Angel of Free Will, you told me. You choose. You are my friend. You are not alone. Shinji and Asuka have done the impossible over and over. I have done it with them. We crushed the Angel of Might and ground him underfoot. We caught the Angel of the Sky and I broke his AT-Field to let Asuka kill it. You and I withstood Arael until Shinji, a 'mere' Lilim shielded us and Asuka slew it. You are Lilim too, more than enough to claim that as much as your heritage as your other side. You are one of us. We fight together, Kaworu Nagisa. And we will win. Do you understand me, Kaworu?"

Despite himself, Kaworu nodded. That was the Rei Ayanami that so captivated him. The unyielding steel beneath the cool surface, the powerful, indomitable protective fury that had snarled defiance at him the day they met, swearing to protect those she cared about. And now that included him. "Thank you, Ayanami." His shoulders relaxed. He tried a small smile. "I did not know you were the ruling authority of who was admitted to the Lilim race."

"It is I, if anyone," Rei replied, firm authority still filling her voice. "I say you will fight and beat the Call, and stay my friend for years." She paused. "And how is the Call?"

Kaworu's smile was a little stronger. "I've never known it so distant. Your pictures are… more potent. At least for now, I am untroubled by it at all. Instead, I am subject to the call of you."

"Good," Rei declared. She hesitated. "...So, I looked good? I had never done anything like that before, but it felt like… I wanted Shinji and Asuka to see that side of me. Kensuke said I looked excellent, but I… would like your thoughts as well."

Kaworu's eyes glazed over for a moment. "Guh. Uh… um… yes. They were… were…" He began to sweat heavily, then turned around, putting his back to Rei. "They were nice!" he squeaked, sounding half strangled.

Rei eyed him, bemused by the sudden odd flares in his AT-Field. His Field was in much better shape than it had been the night before, at least. "Kaworu? Are you… alright?"

"Just fine!" he rasped. "I'm just trying not to think about how you look naked and we're alone in your bedroom and your hugs are so nice and oh gods your underwear is still hanging on that rack overhead nnnnnnnnggg!" he said all in one breath.

"And you are facing away from me so I do not observe a reaction we both know is happening and is in fact the point of why I gave you that box," Rei said dryly. "It is good to know that I am considered attractive by not just those who already like or love me."

"…I like you," Kaworu said, barely above a whisper. "Not… not just for your body. Because you give me hope. That this will not end like I have seen it end a thousand times, or like that Angel tried to show me. You believe I can win."

Rei put a hand on his shoulder, turning him around. "You will. I will not permit any of my friends to fall. Not while there is anything I can do to protect them." She resolutely kept her eyes locked on his. "Now… I think we will repeat today's pattern for a while. The companionship and music are soothing and helpful to my healing, as I see to yours. And you will keep using that box as needed to keep your hopes up."

"Until?"

"Until you don't need to anymore. Hope is in your head, Kaworu. Not just that box."

He met her eyes for a while, then dropped his gaze to the side. "I am… very happy you are my friend, Ayanami. I… I… wish we did not have to hide. I truly would like to… ask you out again."

"If we did not have to hide… I would consider it, Kaworu. Now let us go see our friends who have been so kind to us both."

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Asuka's cheery smirk vanished as soon as the other two Children did. She quickly marched towards the kitchen table and sat down, fiddling with the handle of her violin case.

Shinji sat across from her, looking worried. "Asuka? What's wrong."

She sighed. "I wish it was that easy."

"What?"

"As much fun as teasing Rei about 'Oh my! Alone with a hot boy in your bedroom! Scandal!', I know perfectly well it's not what they're doing. I just wish it was."

Shinji's expression darkened too. "Oh… right."

"Whatever Rei and Kaworu still feel like they need to keep from us has to be some extremely serious Scheiße related to SEELE," Asuka said. "Something we are safer not knowing. And we've already seen how bad having to hide this from us makes Rei feel. So I'd rather tease Rei to keep her from feeling bad, even if I can't stop myself from trying to figure out what it might be." She fiddled with her violin case some more. "I… hate this. NERV, SEELE, all these damn secrets from the organizations that are supposed to be protecting the world from the Angels."

Shinji shivered a little at the reminder of what NERV and SEELE's true goals were, according to his mother. He shivered some more at the thought that he, Asuka, Misato, and their tiny circle of Pilots was apparently the only group with the knowledge to have a chance of stopping it. "It shouldn't be us. We shouldn't have to do this. Have the whole world depend on us not… slipping up even once, and Misato-san and Kaji-san finding out what to do. It's not fair."

Asuka shrugged, and tried a weak smile. "No, it's not. But if not for the Evas, we might not have met, baka mine. Or if you and I weren't in love, we wouldn't have been able to stop Zeruel thanks to your brilliant idea of hijacking Unit-03. Life isn't fair, but as long as we've got each other, we can hang on. We have to. Saving the world is our job, remember?"

"It shouldn't have to be," Shinji said lowly. "And you sound like you're trying to convince yourself." He smiled back, reaching for her hand, but the smile was gloomy.

"I am," she admitted. "If we hadn't been able to dual-synch in Unit-03, we'd… we never would have stopped Zeruel and…"

"We'd all be dead," Shinji finished. "The Angel would have k… killed Rei, smashed its way into Lilith's chamber, and we'd all be dead." He shook again. "It… it shouldn't be like this. The world shouldn't be saved only because you and I kissed! It shouldn't rely on… us."

Asuka's return grip was as tight as his. "I know. I… I'm…" Asuka looked at their hands. "I'm glad every day we're together, Shinji. I don't feel alone. And I hate it just like you do that everything seems to balance on us. I mean, on one hand it kind of stokes my ego a bit that we are that vital to things, but… I'm scared, too. I don't know if I'd be… even able to pretend like this that it's all still just… some kind of adventure. I… I'd be… crumbling down."

Shinji's smile was a little wry now. "Hey, being depressed and mopey is my job, not yours."

Asuka's answering smile got a little stronger. "Anything you can do I can do better and hotter, Third Child."

"Cooking. Cello playing. Backrubs," he rebutted with a smirk.

"…ok, shut up. And I'll take one of those last when we get back to our room."

"I'm glad we're together too, Asuka. I'm just… scared that so much depends on us, and it only seems to be getting worse."

"We'll make it, Shinji. We have to. And if it's not fair, then we'll also make the world give us what we're owed."

He closed his eyes for a moment and nodded. "I… wish I had your confidence, Asuka."

"You do, my dear baka. You've got all of me and vice versa. You make me strong. I just admitted to you I'm scared, remember? Just two more Angels, according to your mom, and then SEELE. We can do this. You and I are invincible together, right?"

"Just two more… We can make it," Shinji nodded.

"Just two more," Asuka nodded back. She looked up at the sound of the bedroom door opening and footsteps approaching. "Oh, hey Rei! You're done with Kaworu already?"

The blunette nodded. "Yes. I have decided not to kill him today," she said in her usual deadpan. Rei paused. "Asuka, this quartet session was beneficial to both Kaworu and I. It was quite soothing to the wounds the Angel inflicted on our minds. And it provides excellent cover for Kaworu and I to speak privately without Section 2 observing. May we repeat this daily for a while until he and I recover?"

"Anything you need, Rei. It was good for us too. And I'm all for giving you and Rainbow Trout here as much 'private time' as you want." She wiggled her eyebrows at them.

Rei pouted slightly. "Asuka…"

Behind her, Kaworu had gone stiff and his eyes slightly glazed. "Murble," he commented astutely.

"You have our blessing, Kaworu-kun," Shinji snarked. "Please treat her kindly."

"Eeegabble."

"Wow, Shinji, I think you broke him. Rei, what did you do to him?" Asuka grinned.

"I did not do anything! We just… talked."

Asuka covered her mouth. "Oh my! 'Just talked'? I know where that leads!" She got up and walked over to guide a still stunned Fifth Child towards the door. "I think we need to put him back in his apartment before he walks off a balcony without noticing. We'll see you for dinner, Rei. And of course we'll do this tomorrow, and as many days as you two need."

"Daily private time with Ayanami…" Kaworu mumbled, barely keeping a grip on his own violin case.

"I'll get started on that vegetable stir-fry for you, Rei. See you in a bit," Shinji said over his shoulder as he helped Asuka steer Kaworu out the door.
 
Hurry and catch up then, so you can start NEW derails for OTHERS to regret not being able to join in on!:V

One could argue that's what we're doing right now.

WHAT? NO! DON'T DO THAT! THAT'S HELL YOU'RE WALKING INTO!

Seriously, I took a entire month reading this thread, only some parts are worth the trouble, like the origins of the memes and some parts of the shipping wars *raise the OT3 flag*.

I do skim over some things.
Ummmm....shipping wars?
[Naughtilus is suddenly feeling self-conscious about the iceberg he's standing on]

While I would agree that having the ending planned out is good, forcing your story to the ending when your writing has taken it in a somewhat different direction would be doubleplusungood. For instance, when Stryp originally planned the ending for A&T, he didn't plan that Asuka and Shinji would become so close to Rei. Should he then throw all that out the window to force the story back into the ending as he originally conceived it? I can think of one ME story I read where the first two volumes of it were pretty damn good, diverging from the ending of ME2 both relationship-wise and Cerberus-wise, only for the third volume to sorta-end with an author's note stating that a)they were abandoning the story, and b)they had been planning to railroad it right into where ME3 started.

And then we have the prequel-itis. When you know where your story MUST be heading towards, all kinds of bad stuff can happen. Take the Star Wars prequel trilogy, for example. We know Anakin has to become Darth Vader and participate in the Jedi Purge, sire two children somewhere in the process, and that itself leads to characters passing multiple Idiot Balls, a lot of contrived stuff, and of course that Romantic Plot Tumour which I most likely wouldn't flag with the STILL BETTER LOVE STORY THAN TWILIGHT meme.
Well, yeah, there's also badly written dialogue, and Jar Jar (for the record, I wholly support the 'Jar Jar was meant to be a Sith Lord, but Lucas chickened out after the backlash and hastily wrote Dooku in' theory) but that's a side-product.

Edit: WAUGH, don't do that to me, posting updates while I post this, and also I gotta go and won't be able to read it for another twelve hours or so :/
 
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Very good update. Once again I'm reminded why I write a crossover- so I can introduce other characters to handle the bullshit and let the Pilots recover from their mental issues.

Seriously, they should not have these problems, and it makes me unhappy that they do. Not a criticism on the writing, but NERV always gives me a headache.
 
"I nearly fell down and just kind of flopped around gurgling when you opened the door!"


"I did not know you were the ruling authority of who was admitted to the Lilim race."
Really, who else? Did you miss the etymological source of "Lilim"?

Though more seriously, I doubt you can just power-talk the Call away, as much as Rei may want to. Yes, Tabris is the angel of free choice. And if he chooses to be part of the Lilim civilization, he should be. I'd hope we're metropolitan enough for that ;) But that won't make the Call go away.

Also, it seems a bit one-sided how Rei can always make Kaworu just jump. She has an almost messianic calmness about her concerning everything Kaworu says ;)

"We'll make it, Shinji. We have to. And if it's not fair, then we'll also make the world give us what we're owed."
That's the spirit, Asuka. Make them all pay, MUHAHAHA...

...ehem. Point stands. No, seriously, I (of course ;) ) am glad she doesn't just go the "it's our duty/responsibility" route.

"Just two more. [...] Oh, hey Rei! You're done with Kaworu already?"
Hah!
 
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"And Kaworu-kun too. You say he's ok, and that's enough for us."
It's a good thing Rei isn't naive and impressonab- oh.

"And if she does want something from you, Trout, you better do what she says,"
In a controversial move, Asuka advocates rape.~

before he walks off a balcony without noticing.
"News just in - local boy found splattered all over the pavement, having apparently fallen from above. Witnesses report he appeared disoriented, possibly even drunk..."
 
Kaworu-"The Lilim culture is one of achievements grand enough to make space and time climax. Fast food is on the other end of the spectrum; how could the Lilim FAIL so hard..."

EDIT: Shinji-"This next line is by now enough of a cliché that anyone who hears it will probably attempt to murder me in the most contrived and overly extreme manner possible and it makes no sense in the context of the universe we're in, but that's what Youtube is for."
 
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Kaworu had frozen solid once the door had clapped shut, going rigid as a statue staring at Rei's neatly made futon at his feet, and the silk robe hastily discarded across it. The sound of Rei's voice nearly made him jump. He spun in place, his eyes wide and face flushed red as he met her cool expression. "Y-yes! It… I… gaaaah!" His hands flew up to wildly worry at his temples. "It's all I can think about! Y-you are all over my mind! I nearly fell down and just kind of flopped around gurgling when you opened the door! How are you doing this to me?!"

Kaworu's eyes glazed over for a moment. "Guh. Uh… um… yes. They were… were…" He began to sweat heavily, then turned around, putting his back to Rei. "They were nice!" he squeaked, sounding half strangled.

"Just fine!" he rasped. "I'm just trying not to think about how you look naked and we're alone in your bedroom and your hugs are so nice and oh gods your underwear is still hanging on that rack overhead nnnnnnnnggg!" he said all in one breath.

I'm glad I'm alone in the house right now. I don't think I could've held in my Laughs.

On another note, Kaworu continues to be very frustrated and very pleased.

Ah, puberty. Such a painfully awkward time.
 
Asuka and Shinji arguing, Kaworu looking smug as fuck, and Rei looking tired.
Sounds about right.
If I didn't know better, I'd say that was an edited picture of Yui.
Kaworu had frozen solid once the door had clapped shut, going rigid as a statue staring at Rei's neatly made futon at his feet, and the silk robe hastily discarded across it. The sound of Rei's voice nearly made him jump. He spun in place, his eyes wide and face flushed red as he met her cool expression. "Y-yes! It… I… gaaaah!" His hands flew up to wildly worry at his temples. "It's all I can think about! Y-you are all over my mind! I nearly fell down and just kind of flopped around gurgling when you opened the door! How are you doing this to me?!"

"I am given to understand this is in fact a normal reaction to being given a box like that," Rei said calmly, only the faintest note of irony in her voice. "Welcome to the Lilim race."
... I don't think most puberties are like that, but sure. It's a badass line.
Rei looked imperious, almost angry. "You are the Angel of Free Will, you told me. You choose. You are my friend. You are not alone. Shinji and Asuka have done the impossible over and over. I have done it with them. We crushed the Angel of Might and ground him underfoot. We caught the Angel of the Sky and I broke his AT-Field to let Asuka kill it. You and I withstood Arael until Shinji, a 'mere' Lilim shielded us and Asuka slew it. You are Lilim too, more than enough to claim that as much as your heritage as your other side. You are one of us. We fight together, Kaworu Nagisa. And we will win. Do you understand me, Kaworu?"
And that's one amazing motivational speech.
Despite himself, Kaworu nodded. That was the Rei Ayanami that so captivated him. The unyielding steel beneath the cool surface, the powerful, indomitable protective fury that had snarled defiance at him the day they met, swearing to protect those she cared about. And now that included him.
AKA: Kaworu is into Mamma Bears.
Kaworu's eyes glazed over for a moment. "Guh. Uh… um… yes. They were… were…" He began to sweat heavily, then turned around, putting his back to Rei. "They were nice!" he squeaked, sounding half strangled.

Rei eyed him, bemused by the sudden odd flares in his AT-Field. His Field was in much better shape than it had been the night before, at least. "Kaworu? Are you… alright?"
Rei, stop teasing the poor boy, you know he's got so many hormones running through his it's a wonder he's not running out his ears.
"Just fine!" he rasped. "I'm just trying not to think about how you look naked and we're alone in your bedroom and your hugs are so nice and oh gods your underwear is still hanging on that rack overhead nnnnnnnnggg!" he said all in one breath.

"And you are facing away from me so I do not observe a reaction we both know is happening and is in fact the point of why I gave you that box," Rei said dryly.
:lol:rofl: Oh good lord Rei, you are just merciless with the sex jokes.
"We'd all be dead," Shinji finished. "The Angel would have k… killed Rei, smashed its way into Lilith's chamber, and we'd all be dead." He shook again. "It… it shouldn't be like this. The world shouldn't be saved only because you and I kissed! It shouldn't rely on… us."
Welcome to the Giant Robot Genre. It actually should be really shitty on the protagonists, but it took you lot to show it.
Shinji's smile was a little wry now. "Hey, being depressed and mopey is my job, not yours."

Asuka's answering smile got a little stronger. "Anything you can do I can do better and hotter, Third Child."
... well, she's not wrong on the depression, self-hate, and spiraling madness.
"Cooking. Cello playing. Backrubs," he rebutted with a smirk.
But that is a fair point.
"I'm glad we're together too, Asuka. I'm just… scared that so much depends on us, and it only seems to be getting worse."
*looks over to That Quest*
Actually, things will not be as bad as they could be. Just take my word on that.
"Anything you need, Rei. It was good for us too. And I'm all for giving you and Rainbow Trout here as much 'private time' as you want." She wiggled her eyebrows at them.

Rei pouted slightly. "Asuka…"

Behind her, Kaworu had gone stiff and his eyes slightly glazed. "Murble," he commented astutely.

"You have our blessing, Kaworu-kun," Shinji snarked. "Please treat her kindly."

"Eeegabble."
Correction, you're all being merciless with the sex jokes on Kaworu.:lol:rofl:
 
Though more seriously, I doubt you can just power-talk the Call away, as much as Rei may want to. Yes, Tabris is the angel of free choice. And if he chooses to be part of the Lilim civilization, he should be. I'd hope we're metropolitan enough for that ;) But that won't make the Call go away.

So far, results do seem promising for being able to kick the Call down the road indefinitely, at least until a standing solution acceptable to all parties can be found. It would be better still if Rei and Kaworu didn't have to hide their relationship from NERV. If it's only Gendo they're worried about, and not SEELE, then Rei needs to get off her butt and use her status as Gendo's sole gatekeeper to Yui to apply some "leverage" to alter the Scenario. Really, Rei's become so much more than what Gendo originally planned for that even he should be able to recognize she offers the potential for a better end than what he originally conceived.

She has an almost messianic calmness about her concerning everything Kaworu says ;)

Well, Rei is a bit of an old soul...;)
 
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