The module raises the power cost, and none of the other designs have enough headroom. They won't be able to include a module without an expensive refit that replaces (some of) the power systems.

How difficult would the S7 P5 D5 design be to modify to make that additional power headroom and keep our options open? Propably not easy enough to still submit it before the vote closes, would it?
 
So, HoH minimum force levels.

Assuming all the Fleet Tenders are Capitals and the Liberators are Cruisers (I think we have encountered one, but I don't remember much about it)
24 Capital ships
58 Cruisers
>100 Corvettes

Minimum.
Liberators are not cruisers, but capitals. Not that this makes things better, but anyway.
I don't think I'd want to meet one of those in a dark nebula. A 'Liberator' class battleship, slightly smaller than an Excelsior, and I daresay slightly more advanced. It will be a tough opponent. Thankfully, our understanding is that they have fewer of these capitals than the Federation as a whole has Excelsiors. However, I heard from Honiani officers that the HPDV Liberator of Telqua is one of four of these ships in just the fleet covering their rimward border. Which wouldn't be so concerning if they weren't, doctrinally speaking, just the helpful backup to their fleet tenders.

[Gain +10pp, violence avoided]
[Liberator class battleship, 1874kt, 495m, 850 crew, C7 S? H? L? P5 D5]
 
How difficult would the S7 P5 D5 design be to modify to make that additional power headroom and keep our options open? Propably not easy enough to still submit it before the vote closes, would it?
It can't be done. However, a power refit in 8-10 years to add the 5 power needed is actually not very expensive, but it will have to be an actual refit. Bonus: we can probably add the module at the same time.
 
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How difficult would the S7 P5 D5 design be to modify to make that additional power headroom and keep our options open? Propably not easy enough to still submit it before the vote closes, would it?

A fast look shows that around the time we get Specialist Exploratory Sensors and get a free +1S, we can probably refit the design to (including that) S9 P6 D6 without module. That does rely on some tech not sheeted yet but I'm fairly confident that between Isolinear, T4 Sickbays and a Nacelles upgrade that is all doable.
 
Updated my description of the module designs to reflect how they currently can be used:
[][KEP] S8/P4/D5 Kepler with rec by Nix
Kepler 2322-Now [???m 997k t, 98.95% rel, 21.74% ev]
C2 S8 H2 L4 P4 D5
Cost[100br, 80sr, 2.5 years], Crew [O-2, E-3, T-4]
Note: We will have the option to build either Nix design if it wins. Votes should be merged.​
The only reasonable S8 proposal in my opinion, it is notable in that it uses a Science Module - note the increase in build time. It sacrifices its diplomatic suite down to frigate-grade to do so. Explorer-grade onboard industry gives it the range for D5 while only using Centaur-A nacelles on a mid-sized engineering hull. It too has its deflector on the saucer.

[][KEP] S7/P4/D5 Kepler with rec by Nix
Kepler 2322-Now [???m 947k t, 98.95% rel, 21.74% ev]
C2 S7 H2 L4 P4 D5
Cost[95br, 75sr, 2.25 years], Crew [O-2, E-3, T-4]
Note: We will have the option to build either Nix design if it wins. Votes should be merged.​
The same design as the S8 proposal but without the Science Module, making it S7. It's a budget design that focuses on D instead of P.
 
Captains Log - 2318.Q4.M1
Captain's Log, USS Sappho, Stardate 26708 - Captain Xuggaed

We were returning from a supply run to one of Leas Akaam's remote science facilities when we detected a large body in interstellar space. It read as an asteroid at first, but as our course took us nearer our sensors identified a pure duranium/tritanium structure, but no energy emissions. This might be a derelict ship, or even a station with its three megaton displacement. I think we'll be taking a small detour.

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Captain's Log, USS Courageous, Stardate 26708.3 - Captain Sabek

During our final mapping cruise of the space between Arcadian and what is now known to be Outer Space Alliance territory, we detected a geothermal anomaly beneath the surface of an ice-covered moon in the Beta Cthon system. During our initial survey, this moon was found to be geologically inert, with no core fusion and a very weak magnetic field. The sudden occurrence of category four earthquakes across the entire moon, therefore, took our sensor officers by surprise, and our science officers even moreso.

We are in high orbit above the moon, and are making more intensive scans. However, many of our sensor systems are impeded by the layer of high-density materials within what used to be the moon's liquid mantle before it froze. We are currently assessing the risks incurred by using our phasers to drill deeper into the moon in order to conduct deeper scans; depending on the nature of this anomaly, such high energy phaser input might cause the instability to escalate and tear the moon apart.

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Captain's Log, USS Sappho, Stardate 26708.4

The object is a derelict spacecraft over one thousand standard years old. I didn't need the database to identify an Imperial Orion dreadnought, there are pictures in the history books. The derelict has taken extensive combat damage, and a thousand years worth of micrometeor impacts and g-force stresses, but the primary hull is still mostly intact. Radiation weathering places the de-activation of the dreadnought's SIF fields at nine hundred and eighty-six years BP, during the Hur'rq invasion.

This is the first time Starfleet has found an Imperial warship this well preserved. I've already sent the first away team over to learn whatever there is to learn from the derelict. Probably not too much. The Orion Empire at its height was only about fifty years ahead of the modern Federation according to the academic consensus. They've sent back some data storage units, and I think we can get them running well enough to upload their contents. We will be spending several more days investigating the derelict until a dedicated science ship can arrive.

[Gain +5 pp, +10 rp]

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Captain's Log, USS Courageous, Stardate 26708.5

After ensuring that there were no unstable elements within the outer mantle that could react unpredictably with the phasers, we commenced the drilling operation and dispatched a probe into the shaft. Unfortunately, as soon as the probe reached the bottom of the shaft and began drilling, there was a massive tectonic event that effected an entire quarter of the moon's surface centered on the shaft, and we lost contact with the probe almost immediately. Twenty minutes later, there was another series of moon-wide earthquakes, more intense than the previous wave.

It may be possible to conduct a more thorough scan of the moon's core from the lip of the shaft without entering it, but the risks involved are considerable. I have permitted four members of the ship's science personnel to volunteer for surface operations. They will land one of the shuttlecraft near the site, and convert it into a small research facility. I have instructed Chief Gerhatz to beam the four officers back aboard at the first sign of danger.

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Captain's Log, USS Sappho, Stardate 26708.7

I think I will need a talk with the surviving away team members.

The dreadnought's main shuttle hangar contained a one hundred kiloton parasite craft with no apparent airlock entrance or viewports. Three of our engineering staff reported they were seeking an alternate access method. Two minutes later, the ship blew the shuttlebay door open and tore off into space. We didn't detect any life signs aboard. This is a drone ship. It fired disrupters as soon as we were in its sights, and took out our shields before we could even shoot back. It stopped when I ordered inertial dampers released and main power turned down. Now its set an intercept course for a civilian cargo ship exiting Leas Akaam.

I have had everyone beamed back aboard, and we are in pursuit. We're going through the data we gathered from the derelict, and cross referencing everything historically known about Orion Empire fleet doctrine. There are no other Starfleet ships within range to intercept, and the Confederate Amarki Navy's nearest frigate won't get to the cargo ship before the drone does.

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Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26708.7 - Captain Demora Sulu

We're on the way to the Talarian colony of Ojaro Tro to render assistance with a viral pandemic. The Insterstellar Commonwealth has been enforcing a quarantine of Ojaro Tro ever since the outbreak began last year, but their physicians haven't been able to do more than slow the plague within the colony's own population. The Talarians are hoping that the Federation's medical technology can do what theirs and the ISC's can't. Unfortunately, Starfleet doesn't have a free hospital ship to send, so the Voshov will have to do.

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Captain's Log, USS Sappho, Stardate 26708.9

Just two hours before intercept, we isolated the emergency recall signal from the other automated messages in one of the derelict's hard drives. When we transmitted the signal, the drone ship turned around and set a collision course for the Sappho. We made sure there were twelve photon torpedoes in its way. It would have been nice to recover the drone intact, but too much risk.

Ships has arrived from the Confederacy of Amarkia and the Orion Union to help inspect the main derelict more closely. If it is safe, President Motarr of the Orion Union hopes to make it a museum ship.

[+5 pp]

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Captain's Log, USS Courageous, Stardate 26708.9

Officers Cruz, Todal, Ubatu, and Sharanx have succeeded in setting up a ground-penetrating tachyon sensor device capable of penetrating the dense mantle elements. They have discovered that the moon's core is not inert, but absent, and in its place is a crystalline organism of at least forty million ton displacement that is actively consuming the surrounding minerals. This is a larval member of the same species of cosmozoan that destroyed the USS Suvek and crippled the USS Tarrak, undergoing the same subterranean developmental process observed by the Licori mentats. At its current rate of growth, we have calculated that the organism will reach maturity and emerge from the moon in less than one year.

I find myself faced with an ethical dilemma. Starfleet has already been responsible for the deaths of at least three such organisms, whose population cannot be high. However, if the organism is allowed to reach maturity, prior experience dictates that it will threaten the lives of numerous sentient beings, and that euthanizing it at that time will be substantially more difficult and dangerous.

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Captain's Log, USS Defiant, Stardate 26709

With the ongoing political chaos on Ferasa in the wake of the recent intelligence breach, Starfleet has been authorized to assist local law enforcement agencies in conducting a third party investigation of suspected corruption within the Caitian government and military. We are carrying a team of analysts and investigators from Starfleet Intelligence to Ferasa to support the operation.

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Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26709.1

The ISC's Talarian Diktat and Disease Control Committees both have their chairmen on location. I met with them and Ojaro Tro's lord-governor over dinner to assess the situation and hammer out the extent of Starfleet's involvement. Chairman Toork of the DCC wants all the help he can get, so long as we follow his organization's safety and containment protocols to the letter. Chairwoman and vice-commissioner Jerol from the TDC though...I got a bad vibe. I think she might be worried about the ISC's reputation with the Talarians if someone else comes in and solves a problem that her own people couldn't. Lord Governor Jeluse, naturally, is willing to try anything at this point.

Fortunately, Toork, Jeluse and I were able to work something out over Jerol's objections. Dr. Linn and her staff will start looking at talarian patients first thing tomorrow.

Talarians do this thing with string beans, with ground meat mixed into the breading. The FDS needs to get on this.

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Captain's Log, USS Atuin, Stardate 26709.1 - Captain Vol Chad

These last five years have been the most challenging, frustrating, and amazing of my life, but the Atuin's mission ends with the quarter. We're completing our circuit up to the rimward of the Ashidi and then returning back through Seyek space and across the Straits of Themis. We'll be taking her back nice and slow, though, and keeping the sensors burning at full power. We could still find a surprise or three on our way home.

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Captain's Log, USS Courageous, Stardate 26709.2

By drilling addition shafts into the moon and lodging a high-powered sonic reverberation device in each, we have subjected the organism to a constant vibrational bombardment that makes its feeding impossible. The organism has entered into a state of hibernation, which we believe will continue for as long as the vibrations prevent it from continuing its growth.

With further research of this dormant specimen, I believe that Starfleet may someday devise a method of harmlessly deterring this species from attacking starships. It is both logical and morally imperative to exploit this opportunity to discover a means of peaceful coexistence.

As a further point of interest, we have determined that the hollow moon accidentally collapsed by the USS Enterprise on stardate 20715.6 was, in fact, the remains of another stellar body that had been used as an incubator by this species.

[Gain +10 rp, Research colony option at Beta Cthon I-B]

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Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26709.3

Dr. Linn is having trouble dealing with some of her patients. Supposedly, the ISC has made progress in liberalizing Talarian society over the last couple of decades, but apparently half of them still have trouble taking anything a woman says seriously, even if they're dying and the woman is a highly trained medical professional trying to save their lives. I think I might be starting to understand Chairwoman Jerol's obsession with keeping the talarians firmly under the ISC umbrella, even if I still find her priorities dangerously skewed.

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Captain's Log, USS Cheron, Stardate 26709.5 - Captain Alryth th'Gannoth

The new Sydraxian government is having trouble keeping order along its frontier. A sharp spike in instances of piracy, theft, and ethnic tensions throughout their tailward rim has many questioning the ability of their new democracy to effectively police itself, with some voices calling for a return to the old Hierarchy methods of governance.

Given the proximity of these colonies to our own coreward border, Starfleet has obtained permission from the new Echoing Chorus administration to coordinate with their own frigates in cracking down on pirate activity in the region. The Cheron is set to rendezvous with the hasque Intrax in two days time to organize a systemic investigation.

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Captain's Log, USS Atuin, Stardate 26709.6

We've been hailed by an Ashidi explorer and given an interesting proposal! The Ashidi have been tracking us and several Ashalla Pact affiliated ships in the vicinity, and after the recent events at Gabriel they're a little nervous about having us operate so near each other around their space. Ashidi tend to prefer keeping aliens at arm's length, but they're using this opportunity to get these ship captains face to face and hopefully build an understanding. I applaud their decision; perfect way to solve this problem before it starts.

In five days' time, we'll be rendezvousing with the ashidi again, as will a Cardassian Takaaki, a Konen Whisperer and an Imelak frigate. This, well. This is going to be interesting. I'm glad the Ashidi are taking their enforcement of the no-shooting rule seriously; I'm not sure I'd count on the Treaty of Celos alone with these odds.

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Captain's Log, USS Defiant, Stardate 26709.7

It appears that Caitian entry into the Federation - and the creation of the new position of Federation Councilors - was perceived by many of the political old guard as a threat, which drove several to make legally dubious decisions in order to protect their own interests. Former Commissioner General Mon'a Krisil of the Colonial Authority, Vice Commissioner Raren Aska of the Grand Fleet Appropriations Office, and Secretary Metak'a Reshir of the Grand Presidium Justice Department have all been taken into custody, and it is unlikely they will be found not guilty of corruption and criminal negligence charges. With these old guard removed, the Caitian government will hopefully have an easier time in the coming reforms and systemic purges.

However, the investigation has also uncovered another matter that must be attended to. We are en route to the Ollasa system at maximum warp.

[Gain +5 pp, Caitian situation improving]

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Captain's Log, USS Defiant, Stardate 26709.9

While the engines will be requiring an overhaul in the wake of our approach, we succeeded in reaching the asteroid base discovered during the investigation before the alerted smugglers could dismantle it. Among the stolen goods and contraband, we have discovered at least one component belonging to a Renaissance class starship's sensor suite, whose serial number identifies it as part of the missing shipment that led to the Collie II disaster. With the involvement of this particular caitian criminal group with the Lecarre espionage operation confirmed, Starfleet Intelligence and the reformed Caitian Colonial Authority now have a long list of new suspects to look into for involvement.

[Gain +10 pp]

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Captain's Log, USS Cheron, Stardate 26709.9

No sooner had Conductor Bodi and I sat down in the conference room when we were interrupted by a report of mass rioting on the nearby colony of Lodalai's Lament. It seems a shipment of expensive trade goods meant for export to Dar Nakar has gone missing from the orbital station, and members of an ethnic minority who made up a large portion of the station's personnel are being targeted in retaliation for the expected economic consequences.

There is also, however, a large community of Vanguard activists on the planet who have long held up the Federation and Starfleet in particular as objects of admiration. Perhaps by making contact with some community leaders of this persuasion, we might be able to calm the rioters.

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Captain's Log, USS Cheron, Stardate 26710

Success. After a round table discussion with some influential voices from Lodelai's Lament, the rioting has calmed down and Conductor Bodi has been able to obtain testimony from a number of sources both planetside and aboard the station. The culprits appear to have not been working along ethnic lines at all, but rather collaborating with an as yet unidentified third party. The timeline of the disappearing goods corresponds suggestively with several unsolved instances of interstellar piracy throughout this sector.

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Captain's Log, USS Valiant, Stardate 26710.1 - Captain Zesh sh'Rannax

We've been dispatched to pursue a set of coordinates near the tailward edge of the Apinae Sector, recovered from an ancient Orion derelict earlier this month. Starfleet Command has surmised that the dreadnought was looking into the disappearance of a military freighter when the Hur'qq ambushed it, and the freighter in question disappeared at these coordinates. There might be nothing, or there might be more shipwrecks.

Either way, I'm not taking any chances on waking up another of those drone ships. We'll be going in with shields up, phasers charged, and torpedoes fully loaded, and I've personally seen to it that the prospective away team personnel have each gone over the logs from the Sappho half a dozen times. I intend for this one to be a smooth mission.

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Captain's Log, USS Atuin, Stardate 26710.1

Recording this from the bathroom on the ashidi ship.

I don't think Glinn Melkat likes me very much. Too bad, I thought he seemed cool at first. But this Commander Thulsa though, she's glaring red konen eye-daggers at just about everyone, and especially me. I had Commander T'Arvit run the name through our databanks, and it looks like she may have lost hundreds of shipmates at the Battle of 45 Gabriel. I feel for her, that's gotta be rough.

Since beaming over, I've been hearing this little voice in my head telling me that I'm an affront to everything good in the universe and that I should peel my skin off one limb at a time before dousing myself in warp plasma coolant. Probably just something I drank - Ashidi wine is some powerful stuff - but I'll have sickbay check me out when I get back just in case.

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Personal Log, Captain Vol Chad

Okay, so the imelak were late, but they showed in the end. Finally getting to see them face to face. Tall, pale, kinda long, snoutlike faces. The captain wouldn't tell me his name, but he was down to arm wrestle and...uh...well, that's another thing sickbay might have to look at. Totally cheating though, he's bio-augmented, he told me afterward. Cheater.

Man, these drinks. What do the ashidi put in this stuff? Its...every time there's a lull in the conversation, I feel this black void in my head sucking me in, full of nothing but pain and self loathing, and then I snap out of it and I always feel like Commander Thulsa is just staring at me. Maybe that's why ashidi are so paranoid? These drinks?

You know what, I think I'm gonna try talking to Thulsa. Tamor - errr, that's Tamor Melkat, the cardassian - is all laughing and having a good time now, but she's still just glaring. Maybe she just needs someone to help her lighten up.

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Personal Log, Captain Vol Chad

Dang, was it something I said? She mad. She reeeeaaally mad.

Imelak dude is finally loosening up. He told some jokes, but they're all about breeding new species of slaves and stuff, and I don't get most of them. I asked him if he's digging this crazy wine stuff, and he said he's immune to alcohol, but he's turned up his pleasure centers and lowering his inhibitions on a short timer. Cheater.

Anyway, so, Tamor. He says he's gonna try and help me patch things up with Thulsa. She seemed really mad, though.

I am so wasted right now.

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Captain's Log, USS Atuin, Stardate 26710.2

We're...moving...on away back home. We, uh, I think we managed to reach some kind of understanding, and the ashidi captain said she's much less worried now. She also thanked me personally for helping with the konen by um. Well, Commander Thulsa and I had a long, um. A long conversation. I don't know if she's still as angry at the Federation, but I um. I don't think she's worse than before.

I've left Commander T'Arvit with the bridge. Gonna be spending the rest of today in sickbay. Ashidi liquor has some unexpected effects on tellarites, and my arm needs some work.

[Gain +10 relations with Ashidi]

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Personal Log, Captain Vol Chad

It didn't happen.

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Captain's Log, USS Valiant, Stardate 26710.5

We've arrived at the coordinates, and are conducting a methodical search. There's no sign of anything that looks like starship debris, but we have detected some unusual subspace disturbances. They could be unrelated to our mission, but as long as we're here I intend to conduct a full analysis.

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Captain's Log, USS Voshov, Stardate 26710.6

Its no panacea, but working with the ISC doctors our medical staff has managed to devise a vaccination effective in ninety-one percent of the talarian population. This should halt the spread of the plague, and it could be an important step on the way to curing it. The lord governor is using this opportunity to publicize the validity of women's work in the esteemed professions; he doesn't seem especially confident, but I know the ISC will be doing their best to use this as well.

I'm not sure how Chairwoman Jerol feels about the Federation swooping in and solving a problem that her own people couldn't, but Chairman Toork has been perfectly gracious and humble. Still, the whole situation feels uncomfortable. I'm just glad to have made things better for these talarians. And to have their stringbean recipe.

[Gain +10 pp]

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Captain's Log, USS Cheron, Stardate 26710.8

It appears that a large group of yrillian pirates have been setting up their operations in this region ever since the chaos left by the fall of the Red Hierarchy, creating a network of bribed or blackmailed colonial officials and spacers who in turn sewed ethnic tensions in order to remove suspicion from themselves. While Bodi's personnel track down the fleeing sydraxian collaborators, the Cheron and one other hasque have followed the recovered intel to the heart of the pirate operation in the unclaimed Tanaka system.

This was quite an extensive pirate operation. The base was guarded by a heavily armed caryall and a pair of corsairs. Thanks to the element of surprise, however, we were able to disable all three ships while sustaining only minor damage to ourselves and the sydraxian ship in return. The yrillians have surrendered, and the situation is already quieting down.

[Gain +25 relations with Sydraxians]

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Captain's Log, USS Valiant, Stardate 26710.9

My own intuition scares me sometimes. The Orion Empire freighter wasn't destroyed by the Hur'qq at all, but trapped in a subspace vortice similar to the one the Atuin encountered earlier this year, after being chased off course by enemy raiders. Some improvised alterations to the escape technique used by the Atuin's engineers allowed mine to open the vortice from the outside, and the remains of the freighter came spilling out into realspace.

There's not much left of the superstructure, but some of its cargo has remained intact over the centuries. As soon as we're done checking for any intact booby traps, we'll be bringing the remains back to Apinae for study and processing.

[Gain +10 sr]
 
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I suspect that N'gir will be doing a very creditable impresion of the cat that got the canary when she hears of the fate of various old guard Caitians especialy the Colonial Comission general.
 
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Personal Log, Captain Vol Chad

Dang, was it something I said? She mad. She reeeeaaally mad.

Imelak dude is finally loosening up. He told some jokes, but they're all about breeding new species of slaves and stuff, and I don't get most of them. I asked him if he's digging this crazy wine stuff, and he said he's immune to alcohol, but he's turned up his pleasure centers and lowering his inhibitions on a short timer. Cheater.

Anyway, so, Tamor. He says he's gonna try and help me patch things up with Thulsa. She seemed really mad, though.

I am so wasted right now.

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Captain's Log, USS Atuin, Stardate 26710.2

We're...moving...on away back home. We, uh, I think we managed to reach some kind of understanding, and the ashidi captain said she's much less worried now. She also thanked me personally for helping with the konen by um. Well, Commander Thulsa and I had a long, um. A long conversation. I don't know if she's still as angry at the Federation, but I um. I don't think she's worse than before.

I've left Commander T'Arvit with the bridge. Gonna be spending the rest of today in sickbay. Ashidi liquor has some unexpected effects on tellarites, and my arm needs some work.

[Gain +10 relations with Ashidi]

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Personal Log, Captain Vol Chad

It didn't happen.

So, uh, did Chad sleep with the Cardassian, the Imelak, the Konen, or some combination of the three?
 
Wow, a lot of stuff!

As a further point of interest, we have determined that the hollow moon accidentally collapsed by the USS Enterprise on stardate 20715.6 was, in fact, the remains of another stellar body that had been used as an incubator by this species.

I remember that incident. Well, what do you know...
 
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Out of curiosity how close can the current design rules get to the New Orleans stats?
Current designs are +1 SLP +2D for -15SR +1T. 10 years early, too.
For reference this is the New Orleans' statline:
New Orleans 2332-Now [425m, 850k t]
C4 S3 H3 L4 P3 D4
Cost[85br, 80sr, 2 years], Crew [O-1, E-3, T-2]​

and this is Forgothrax's version:
New New Orleans 2322-Now [???m, 949k t]
C4 S4 H3 L5 P4 D6
Cost[95br, 65sr, 2.5 years], Crew [O-1, E-3, T-3]​
 
For reference this is the New Orleans' statline:
New Orleans 2332-Now [425m, 850k t]
C4 S3 H3 L4 P3 D4
Cost[85br, 80sr, 2 years], Crew [O-1, E-3, T-2]​

and this is Forgothrax's version:
New New Orleans 2322-Now [???m, 949k t]
C4 S4 H3 L5 P4 D6
Cost[95br, 65sr, 2.5 years], Crew [O-1, E-3, T-3]​

So only 100kt heavier and 1T more crew I doubt the New Orleans will make an appearence in its orginal form.
 
On one hand, it's rather frustrating that not only is Harmony more technologically advanced (*and* has a pretty damn scary fleet), but that the Cardassians have apparently gotten a major tech boost from a new vassal and now have across-the-board better cruisers (including Science >_<) than we do.

On the other, I still have faith that the Federation can out-tech both of them given enough time; they just had a head start and a one-time infusion, respectively. And, as a bit of a solace, the more the Cardassians rely on their vassals for technology and leadership (although the Konen set that last bit back, looks like) the more they creep towards a more Federation-like structure.

It still irks me a bit though.
 
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