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Redshirt Army said:
A suggestion, @Onmur.

[X] Apologize profusely, make sure Mami's OK, and explain what you just did.
-[X] If Mami seems fine, properly ask Mami if she's okay helping you test it later this afternoon.

[X] Ask Kyuubey:
-[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
-[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
-[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.

[X] Keep the Utility Fog, and rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
-[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
-[X] Test to see if creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not. Test to see if your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.

[X] Kasamino time!
-[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
-[X] Ask about how unpleasant the dispersed nanogrief actually is to non-you megucas.
-[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
-[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.




And yes, this. That's not enchantment at all, it's her power having a built in storage mechanism. (Which is entirely on point with Magical Girl theming for shows with collectible macguffins. Way to stay in-genre, Sayaka!)
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Re-writing to compress into less words:

[X] Apologize profusely, make sure Mami's OK, and explain what you did.
-[X] If Mami seems fine, properly ask if she'll help you with your range this afternoon.

[X] Ask Kyuubey:
-[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
-[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
-[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.

[X] Keep the Utility Fog as long as it doesn't bother your friends; rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
-[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.

[X] Test whether...
-[X] ... creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not.
-[X] ... your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.

[X] Kasamino time!
-[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
-[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
-[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.
 
If making current doesn't require trance time (and if making light doesn't, then I suspect it won't), then a whole pile of options opens up.

Gravity creation, on the other hand, lets us steal WPNs telekinesis schtick (and gives us a whole new movement and crowd control option).

Heat generation within our range is pretty self-explanatory.
 
[X]Onmur

I want to meet the new girl and find the lost girl.... or at least confirm her demise if we can.
 
Karnewarrior said:
Or increase his efficiency. Which would be a very good thing, considering we'd be able to save more magical girls because Kyuubey would be assisting us, and he gets to slow the eventual heat death of the universe, which is not a bad goal.

Remember, Kyuubey is a paperclip machine. If we offer a better way of collecting grief, then Kyuubey will be our ally for as long as that remains true. Another reason I'd like to get in touch with his scientists and see if they have some theoretical form of grief we might be able to construct.
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Daily Reminder that QB is not our fucking friend, and is almost certainly planning at this very moment to eventually have us killed for the sake of Madoka's potential energy.

Don't get chummy with the Incubator - it doesn't have the emotions to actually process friendship itself, and it knows how to exploit that serotonin release in your brain from millenia of experience.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Daily Reminder that QB is not our fucking friend, and is almost certainly planning at this very moment to eventually have us killed for the sake of Madoka's potential energy.

Don't get chummy with the Incubator - it doesn't have the emotions to actually process friendship itself, and it knows how to exploit that serotonin release in your brain from millenia of experience.
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This PSA was approved by the Meguca Ad council.
 
Making heat is easy. We make heat by just existing. Its making things colder is the hard part, and doing it without heating up other things is just another demonstration of us fucking with thermodynamics.

[quiet sobbing]
 
Redshirt Army said:
Daily Reminder that QB is not our fucking friend, and is almost certainly planning at this very moment to eventually have us killed for the sake of Madoka's potential energy.

Don't get chummy with the Incubator - it doesn't have the emotions to actually process friendship itself, and it knows how to exploit that serotonin release in your brain from millenia of experience.
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Aye, including him in our experiments just now was mainly done because unless we privacy shielded everything, he'd have observed it anyway.
 
Phant0m5 said:
You know, when the Grief spread out into a cloud, I was actually worried that it might just hang immutably in the air like the spheres do and create a cloud of particles that would kill you to walk through. Like if Clockblocker froze sand in the air but with particles orders of magnitude smaller.
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The particles are actively animated by Sabrina's will, and moved around at need.
cmwatford said:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Would it be gross to feel every cubic nanometer of a person inside and out?
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Yes, it would. :V

Though to be fair, and building on my previous answer, you can both choose to let the particles get inhaled (which would be a very very very nasty attack, by the by) or, y'know, not. Currently you default to keeping small bubbles around each person clear, so...
Appletank said:
......grief is weird, yo. Do we even have a lower limit on how small we can make these things?
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You haven't found it if there is!
Godwinson said:
So, about how much grief can we load into the air before it starts becoming visible again, @Firnagzen? After all, this is a question of optical physics, and Sabrina knows all the mundane knowledge that everyone who posts to the thread knows! :V
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So, generally, that depends on how much volume is available to Sabrina. I actually hadn't bothered to calculate it, but let's do some back-of-napkin math.

Consider the case where Sabrina is standing on the ground. We can approximate the volume the Grief can occupy to a hemisphere (technically slightly more, but hey, I said approximate of fifty meter radius. Consider let's say ten percent of that volume already occupied by people, buildings, and whatnot, and rounding to the nearest thousand or so, we have 236000 cubic meters of space.

I'm actually not entirely an expert on visibility of particulate matter in free air, but considering a density of 75×10-6​m3​ per cubic meter with particulate size of 10-6​m radius, we're...

Huh. You're actually pretty close to the limits of what can be dispersed into the air without it being noticeable, unless I've estimated wrongly - as it is, this is about 18m3​ of Grief dispersed into the air - roughly half a shipping container.
 
Firnagzen said:
So, generally, that depends on how much volume is available to Sabrina. I actually hadn't bothered to calculate it, but let's do some back-of-napkin math.

Consider the case where Sabrina is standing on the ground. We can approximate the volume the Grief can occupy to a hemisphere (technically slightly more, but hey, I said approximate of fifty meter radius. Consider let's say ten percent of that volume already occupied by people, buildings, and whatnot, and rounding to the nearest thousand or so, we have 236000 cubic meters of space.

I'm actually not entirely an expert on visibility of particulate matter in free air, but considering a density of 75×10-6​m3​ per cubic meter with particulate size of 10-6​m radius, we're...

Huh. You're actually pretty close to the limits of what can be dispersed into the air without it being noticeable, unless I've estimated wrongly - as it is, this is about 18m3​ of Grief dispersed into the air - roughly half a shipping container.
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Isn't it a hundred meter radius, though?
 
Karnewarrior said:
Or increase his efficiency.
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Redshirt Army said:
Daily Reminder that QB is not our fucking friend
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What Redshirt said. Keep in mind that highest grief payout for Kyubey isn't from cleaning MGs' gems. It's from witchouts. So much so that in a universe where witchouts didn't exist he was willing to try kidnapping a god just to make them possible. I don't think that there's anything we can do to increase grief production by the orders of magnitude that he gets from witchouts.


Appletank said:
Making heat is easy. We make heat by just existing. Its making things colder is the hard part, and doing it without heating up other things is just another demonstration of us fucking with thermodynamics.
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As far as fighting entropy goes, our ability to create EM radiation ex nihilo and other megucas' abilities to create or transmute matter should make it possible to create new energy sources. Whether that can ever be scaled up to make a difference on a cosmological scale, on the other hand....
Adhoc vote count started by The Narrator on Jul 26, 2017 at 11:19 PM, finished with 121567 posts and 9 votes.
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    [X] Apologize profusely, make sure Mami's OK, and explain what you did.
    -[X] If Mami seems fine, properly ask if she'll help you with your range this afternoon.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    -[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
    -[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.
    [X] Keep the Utility Fog as long as it doesn't bother your friends; rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
    -[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
    [X] Test whether...
    -[X] ... creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not.
    -[X] ... your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
    -[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.
    [X] Apologize profusely, and explain what you just did.
    -[X] Properly ask Mami if she's okay helping you test it later this afternoon.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    -[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
    -[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.
    [X] Keep the Utility Fog, and rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
    -[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
    -[X] Test to see if creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not. Test to see if your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
    -[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.
    [X] Apologize to Mami - you wanted to see if her ribbons could conduct your magic. You should have forewarned her.
    -[X] Ask if she's feeling alright. If she is, ask if she'd be okay with testing it together in the afternoon.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    [X] Keep the utility fog up and runnings.
    -[X] Measure how much more Grief you could keep without needing to give excess to Kyuubey.
    --[X] If necessary, give Kyuubey the extra Grief.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Formally apologize: You won't have time for lunch this time. Terrible thing.
    -[X] Discuss Sayaka: Their impressions, training payment... schedules if that's necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma for the play-by-play of the KyouSaya meeting.
    [X] Apologize profusely, and explain what you just did. Be giddy about your success.
    -[X] Properly ask Mami for help, if she's OK with it.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    -[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
    [X] Keep the utility fog up and running, unless it bothers your friends.
    -[X] Measure how much more Grief you could keep without needing to give excess to Kyuubey.
    -[X] If necessary, give Kyuubey Grief.
    [X] Before Kasamino:
    -[X] Try to make an "active camo" system for your MOF. You can already do cameras with Grief and change colors; this should be easy.
    [X] Ditch Kyuubey.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Formally apologize: You can't make it to lunch today. A quick brunch, maybe?
    -[X] Discuss Sayaka: Their impressions, training payment... schedules if that's necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma for the play-by-play of the KyouSaya meeting.
    [X] Apologize to Mami. Make sure she's alright; both her body and her Soul Gem.
    -[X] Explain the experiment. Try not to gush about how awesome she is.
    -[X] Maybe we can do some experiments later
    [X] Keep the Utility Fog
    -[X] Do some basic experiments with Liquid Grief
    -[X] Ask Kyuubey if he has the facilities to store and analyze samples. We'd be okay with giving him some if he'd like.
    [X] Question Coobs
    -[X] Kuroki - how is her condition, and can he get us in contact?
    -[X] Can he put us in telepathic contact with Nao prior to us actually meeting? We're still wary of him. Once bitten, twice shy.
    -[X] Grief - If he could somehow break down incubator knowledge barney style for us, either now or at a later time (NOT AROUND MAMI), we might feel more inclined to support a working relationship with the rat.
    [X] Kasamono
    -[X] Meet up with Koko. Sorry, but we don't have time for lunch today, just business.
    -[X] Discuss Sayaka/Kyouko melee training. Mami okayed it.
    -[X] Get the deets on the maiden voyage of the SS. Kyousaya from Yuma if we have time.
    [X] Apologize to Mami. Make sure she's alright; both her body and her Soul Gem.
    -[X] Explain the experiment. Ask if she's willing to go into detail about what happened.
    -[X] If it wasn't too bad, ask if Mami's OK with experimenting together in the afternoon.
    [X] Call ahead to Kyouko. Note when you plan to meet, your schedule crunch, and that you've been running experiments and may feel slightly different.
    [X]Contract the Utility Fog's radius; See how dense it can get without becoming an issue.
    -[X] Do some basic experiments with Liquid Grief. Leave it to sit for a bit.
    -[X] Try to make an "active camo" system for your MOF.
    [X] Question Kyuubey
    -[X] Grief - ask what the Incubators know about it, especially in directly manipulating it.
    -[X] Kuroki - how is her condition?
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    [X] Apologize profusely, and explain what you just did.
    -[X] If Mami seems fine, properly ask Mami if she's okay helping you test it later this afternoon.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    -[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
    -[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.
    [X] Keep the Utility Fog, and rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
    -[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
    -[X] Test to see if creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not. Test to see if your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.
    -[X] As an olive branch, offer to use sky-coloring or active camouflage on your MOF in the future to lower your visibility.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
    -[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.
    [X] Apologize profusely, make sure Mami's OK, and explain what you just did.
    -[X] If Mami seems fine, properly ask Mami if she's okay helping you test it later this afternoon.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    -[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
    -[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.
    [X] Keep the Utility Fog, and rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
    -[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
    -[X] Test to see if creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not. Test to see if your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
    -[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.
    [X] Apologize profusely, make sure Mami's OK, and explain what you just did.
    -[X] If Mami seems fine, properly ask Mami if she's okay helping you test it later this afternoon.
    [X] Ask Kyuubey:
    -[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
    -[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
    -[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.
    [X] Keep the Utility Fog, and rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
    -[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
    -[X] Test to see if creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not. Test to see if your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.
    [X] Kasamino time!
    -[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
    -[X] Ask about how unpleasant the dispersed nanogrief actually is to non-you megucas.
    -[X] Talk about Sayaka: Opinions, payment... schedules, if necessary?
    -[X] Ask Yuma about how the first KyouSaya meeting went.
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The Narrator said:
As far as fighting entropy goes, our ability to create EM radiation ex nihilo and other megucas' abilities to create or transmute matter should make it possible to create new energy sources. Whether that can ever be scaled up to make a difference on a cosmological scale, on the other hand....
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We just need to spin that crank really fast.
 
The Narrator said:
As far as fighting entropy goes, our ability to create EM radiation ex nihilo and other megucas' abilities to create or transmute matter should make it possible to create new energy sources. Whether that can ever be scaled up to make a difference on a cosmological scale, on the other hand....
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I have a feeling that it'd be pretty trivial for us to just vomit out a couple specks of pre-inflation matter, basically raw big-bang-stuff. The issue would be that whatever we do is necessarily local, so anything big enough to matter on a cosmological scale would necessarily induce an energy gradient that'd fuck up everything near it. So it'd be pretty difficult for us to actually execute on that without blowing up the earth and basically anything else nearby.
 
I have a new, official term for the process of keeping our grief dissolved into nanoparticulate for the purposes of carrying it around invisibly!

Cloud Storage.

:V
 
Borrowing some of Onmur's reduced-wordcount verbiage.

I find myself doubting that much more than arriving in Kasamino is going to get covered in this update.

[X] Apologize profusely, make sure Mami's OK, and explain what you did.
-[X] Promise to never do that again without her permission.
[X] Ask Kyuubey:
-[X] About Magical Girls and immortality.
-[X] Can it put us in contact with Kuroki Matsuko and Hideyoshi Nao?
-[X] If you can contact the girls, give them the standard Grief Cleansing talk, and try to arrange meetings.
[X] Keep the Utility Fog as long as it doesn't bother your friends; rethink how much Grief you can carry around inconspicuously.
-[X] Give Grief to KB if necessary.
-[X] Offer to consider using sky-coloring or active camouflage on your MOF to lower your visibility.
[X] Test whether...
-[X] ... creating heat/current/gravity with your nanoparticles requires trance time or not.
-[X] ... your nanoparticles can intercept a thrown summoned hammer.
[X] Kasamino time!
-[X] Invite the girls to a quick brunch if you've got time.
 
Vebyast said:
I have a feeling that it'd be pretty trivial for us to just vomit out a couple specks of pre-inflation matter, basically raw big-bang-stuff. The issue would be that whatever we do is necessarily local, so anything big enough to matter on a cosmological scale would necessarily induce an energy gradient that'd fuck up everything near it. So it'd be pretty difficult for us to actually execute on that without blowing up the earth and basically anything else nearby.
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I was thinking more along the lines of traveling into interstellar space and creating a bunch of hydrogen to induce new star formation, or finding a white dwarf and changing the carbon back into hydrogen to resurrect the star. Much safer. :cool:

(I'm assuming that a griefhax FTL drive of some sort is possible. We've violated the laws of physics in plenty of other ways.)
 
Firnagzen said:
"Sabrina?" Mami's voice sounds inside your mind.

You jerk, reacting to the urgency in her tone, and you release the magic isntantly. She sounds almost strangled, voice hitched. "Mami? What's wrong?"

"Are- did you do something? Something felt- really weird," Mami says.

Crap.

"Um, I did, I'm sorry, Mami," you say, glaring at Kyuubey. You know it's listening in. "Are you OK?"

"I'm- I'm fine," Mami says. "That just- felt really strange. Intrusive."
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"I -- um. In... in hindsight, I may have just pushed a part of my soul into part of yours, technically? Uh..."

...

...

"Mami? You're sure you're okay? I promise I'm not going to do that again without you being there for it, just..."

...

...

"Mami please talk to me I'm getting worried here. I... I'm sorry... Oh god please don't hate me--"

Image of RGB(255, 0, 0) blush.

"... oh."
 
*unlurks*

Several questions:
- Does grief allow for superluminal communications?
-- Can we set up a grief gadget to disperse a cloud of reflective grief nanoparticles on detecting a laser blast?
- Can we have a perpetual field of reflective grief nanoparticles around us?


As for the last, it'd mean that we have very fancy particle effects surrounding us at all times.

... This may have been inspired by the effect around 5* Heroes in Fire Emblem Heroes.
 
AlphaDelta said:
Does grief allow for superluminal communications?
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Not at any range that would be useful; keep in mind our 100 meter range limit, outside of which we would need to rely on mundane physics, which would mean that we would need to know a method for superluminal communication that would work IRL.
 
Script Mak3r said:
Not at any range that would be useful; keep in mind our 100 meter range limit, outside of which we would need to rely on mundane physics, which would mean that we would need to know a method for superluminal communication that would work IRL.
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Within grief itself, that is.

Even if it's 100 meters only, that's still enough to set up anti-laser countermeasures.

It's probably something oddly specific that we won't need, but it's an idea.

... I just want to have Sabrina shine with glitter.
 
Firnagzen said:
... so I seem to have brainfarted hard!

I blame whoever it was who mentioned the fifty meter divination radius but anyway

With that in mind, then the carrying capacity of the air clocks in at about, oh, 188m3​ of grief.
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:oops:

For anyone who wants to learn more (and why am I reading this stuff when I have a bunch of homework to do!) the EPA has a very good introduction to the subject here. There's a lot of cool information there, and I've only read a couple of pages of it (sorry but way too busy!), but the key takeaway I think is that probably the worst possible size for our grief nanoparticles is 1-2 microns, as you start getting into the realm of Rayleigh scattering and the scattering efficiency starts to go up relative to the mass/volume of the particulate matter. 2.5-5 microns seems to be a bit better, but what we really want to do, I think, is break our Grief down until it hits the molecular or atomic scale.

Once you get down to the nanometer scale, as far as I can tell Grief particles will basically affect visibility about as much as free air does. On the other hand, at that point you need to start paying attention to the concentration of particles in the air, because our Grief particles will basically be displacing the air, and if we displace too much air then the people around us (and cars, and plants, and open flames, and everything else that uses air to breathe) will start to asphyxiate.

So, let's assume that we've broken our particles down to say 1 nanometer diameter spheres, each with a volume of 5 10-28​ m3​. Now, air can normally hold roughly a mole (6.02 * 1023​) particles per 22.4 liters; the total volume in our 100-meter radius hemisphere is 2094395 m3​ which is ~2.1*109​ liters, thus we can hold 5.6*1031​ particles. Now, I for one would rather only displace say 1% of the air at the most: this will give us a total cloud capacity of 5.6*1031​ * 0.01* 5 10-28​ ~= 1,200 m3​ of 1-nanometer spheres of Grief. We can also add in a few 5-micron spheres, as those seem to hit another local minimum in terms of scattering efficiency, but I'll leave that as an exercise for someone else.

Someone mind checking my math and my assumptions?
 
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TheEyes said:
:oops:

For anyone who wants to learn more (and why am I reading this stuff when I have a bunch of homework to do!) the EPA has a very good introduction to the subject here. There's a lot of cool information there, and I've only read a couple of pages of it (sorry but way too busy!), but the key takeaway I think is that probably the worst possible size for our grief nanoparticles is 1-2 microns, as you start getting into the realm of Rayleigh scattering and the scattering efficiency starts to go up relative to the mass/volume of the particulate matter. 2.5-5 microns seems to be a bit better, but what we really want to do, I think, is break our Grief down until it hits the molecular or atomic scale.

Once you get down to the nanometer scale, as far as I can tell Grief particles will basically affect visibility about as much as free air does. On the other hand, at that point you need to start paying attention to the concentration of particles in the air, because our Grief particles will basically be displacing the air, and if we displace too much air then the people around us (and cars, and plants, and open flames, and everything else that uses air to breathe) will start to asphyxiate.

So, let's assume that we've broken our particles down to say 1 nanometer diameter spheres, each with a volume of 5 10-28​ m3​. Now, air can normally hold roughly a mole (6.02 * 1023​) particles per 22.4 liters; the total volume in our 100-meter radius hemisphere is 2094395 m3​ which is ~2.1*109​ liters, thus we can hold 5.6*1031​ particles. Now, I for one would rather only displace say 1% of the air at the most: this will give us a total cloud capacity of 5.6*1031​ * 0.01* 5 10-28​ ~= 1,200 m3​ of 1-nanometer spheres of Grief. We can also add in a few 5-micron spheres, as those seem to hit another local minimum in terms of scattering efficiency, but I'll leave that as an exercise for someone else.

Someone mind checking my math and my assumptions?
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Well, uh, this bodes ill.
 
Lordsservent said:
Well, uh, this bodes ill.
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Meh; it's fine. We just need to, you know, not displace a significant fraction of the air around us with Grief nanoparticles, which should be fairly easy since we're supposedly watching every one of them individually. If we need more cloud carrying capacity we can use 5-micron spheres too (although we need to start worrying about both particulate visibility and nucleation and other atmospheric chemistry effects due to relatively large particle sizes); I'll rely on someone else to do the additional carrying capacity calculations for that because I just don't have time for more research but it should also be substantial, probably another 50-100 m3​ all by itself, and then of course we have our regular default flying container ship of Grief. Point is, we have a finite but very large volume to work with, and flexibility even when we get to the limit of that size.
 
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