Hmmm. Being paranoid and examining failure modes:
-[] Be ready to disconnect Mami from the conversation, or bring down the privacy bubble, if Kazusa is about to say something witchbomb-y.
This really shouldn't happen.

Kazusa is smart.

Why do we need Oriko going though? In case her visions come back? Though now that I think about it if she's there I bet Kirika will fight all the harder
Reasons.

For one, don't separate O&K right now.

For two, having O in one place and K in another would mean Homu can't keep a metaphorical eye on both of them at once.

More reasons... I'm sure there's more reasons. Like O needs to get out of the house.

She's also a meguca. Some meguca-ing would let her rebuild her confidence if it goes well.
 
[x] Vebyast

First time voting, somebody verify I'm doing this right?
You've got it!
Adhoc vote count started by Vebyast on Jun 13, 2017 at 12:39 AM, finished with 118634 posts and 3 votes.

  • [x] Further quick questions:
    -[x] Ask Oriko if she saw Hijiri 'connecting' with the powers of any non-Pleiades magical girl.
    -[x] Ask Kirika if she can quickly look up recent news of bomb threats in Asunaro.
    -[x] Thank Oriko.
    [x] Move the privacy bubble away, but keep it floating around somewhere for later use.
    [x] Ask Mami to contact Kazusa. Conference call everybody, not just Sabrina+Mami.
    -[x] NiceBrina.
    -[x] Standard spiel about helping Magical Girls.
    -[x] If necessary, admit to having other reasons to want to visit, which should be talked in person.
 
[X] Vebyast

We should totally take O&K aside if the full team forms.

Give that nice couple a double hug, remind Kirika how she tried to be nice to Homu at one point, tell her that was really nice of her, even if Homu didn't reciprocate.

Probably do that about explaining about pastloop O&K killing Homu's One True Love. On that note, we'd need the Privacy Bubble still.

Then ask them to please, please put up with Homu's Homuness. Many hugs ensue.

Then we take Homu aside...

[x] Vebyast

First time voting, somebody verify I'm doing this right?
 
Speaking of bringing Oriko... Let's talk about Oriko's arm.

If Oriko comes along, her arm must be healed. There's a number of reasons:
• Trust. If we're bringing Oriko along, we're trusting her to represent our interests. We can physically shut her down, after all, but can't prevent the bad impression that doing that to someone we brought along would cause. The best way to build trust is to reciprocate it... And reaffirming Oriko's allegiance with a bit of carrot won't hurt.

• Danger. Asunaro is dangerous. If Kirika is going to take her waifu into a war zone, she'll want her at 100% capacity - and if we want her as backup, then frankly, so do we.

• Image. If we want to present ourselves as this miracle group that will solve all megukinds problems, we need to seem competent. Not being able to heal a teammates injury ruins that image a lot, and keeping someone injured because we don't trust them hurts it more.
 
Ummmmm.

*elevator music* MumiCompute is processing.

Ok. So:

Possible combinations.

Situation good + Talk to Kazusa: probably Mami is invited, but unlikely we are in a hurry. Go monday after school and bring Mami. Tell the Pleiades to be liberal with seed usage if they feel like it to prevent things from going wrong in that time. No problems.

Situation Asunaro ("strike team" case) + Talk to Kazusa: if the Pleiades are in actual trouble at "current time" (read: tommorrow morning; literal current time is homhomu timestop), Mami is going to be going, invited or not. We would have to put leverage against her own personality to prevent that; if her friends are in danger she will want to help.

Situation Average (something seems off, things are starting to go wrong) + Talk to Kazusa: the only dangerous case, and also probably the most likely. The right thing to do here if Kazusa invites Mami is to ask for a moment, and go over things with Mami. In this scenario, Kazusa et all will almost certainly be OK whether or not Mami comes, and there may be things in Asunaro which would hurt her a lot (though we aren't concerned for her safety). There's nothing stopping her from visiting after school, though it would admittedly be... Unusual? Then again, so is the fact that Sabrina isn't in school.
 
If Oriko comes along, her arm must be healed. There's a number of reasons:
Ribbon/Grief prosthesis? Placates the Homu, might address Image depending on how good it is. Doesn't do anything for Trust, but that's going to be a balance with the Homura. Letting Oriko out of the house to go megucaing is already a pretty big deal, both for Oriko and for Homu.
 
@Firnagzen

Do you mind having a short update as we're planning?
I don't mind, no. I'll probably make it a .5 update.

What do you have in mind?
Okay, folks: I've had an epiphany. Could be nothing, but I think there's something to it.

You see, I've figured out where Sayaka's whole "power copier" deal comes form.

...We see her with it in canon.

In Rebellion, the mermaid witch she has the ability to command other witches' familiars. (part of their power sets in other words) More than that, however, she also copies Kyoko's spear.

Why this is, is that Sayaka and Nagisa come holding on to a piece of Madoka's sealed power. And interestingly either one is enough for restoration, implying that the power is not diminished via splitting, as one might expect for copies.

On it's own, that's one thing and an interesting coincidence. However, Sayaka has also repeatedly shown a degree of sympathy for witches, just as she shows in her confrontation with Homura in Rebellion. We see it a little after the Gertrude fight as she shows sympathy for someone who "had their home barged into" and we see it again at some point around her first fight against a witch: the spider among the hanging ropes.

Sayaka's Airstep also shows some interesting traits: She shows it during the series, but what's interesting is the one time we look at it closely, during the aforementioned first fight against the spider witch, we see five imagines: knight, crossed swords, windmill, mermaid, and angel. All of these relate pretty directly to Sayaka and Oktavia. Of those, the angel has strong associations of Sayaka of Rebellion, but as far as I can tell not so strong associations otherwise. It's a very small thing that's not admissible on it's own, but in combination with the above it's more suspicious.

All in all, it's not remotely conclusive, but it points to a link between PMAS and Rebellion. And I think there's enough of one enough to warrant further investigation.
Also, I'm giving this a like because it stuck out to me as I was browsing the thread and, well, I do like it when people put this kind of thought in. Whether it's accurate or not, though, I'm not commenting on.
 
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vote proposal
[x] Ask Mami to say hi to Kazusa
-[x] Break for voting, following Redshirt's plan of Asunaro Table thing or something
 
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Ok I'm totally down with this.

[X] Vebyast

I don't mind, no. I'll probably make it a .5 update.

What do you have in mind?

Also, I'm giving this a like because it stuck out to me as I was browsing the thread and, well, I do like it when people put this kind of thought in. Whether it's accurate or not, though, I'm not commenting on.

See the vebyast vote.
 
I don't mind, no. I'll probably make it a .5 update.

What do you have in mind?

Basically, just ask Mami to contact Kazusa, check on her, break to vote.

A question was added for Oriko, and Kirika was sent to run and google something, but that's all.

Privacy Bubble moves away for us. :p
  1. [x] Further quick questions:
    -[x] Ask Oriko if she saw Hijiri 'connecting' with the powers of any non-Pleiades magical girl.
    -[x] Ask Kirika if she can quickly look up recent news of bomb threats in Asunaro.
    -[x] Thank Oriko.
    [x] Move the privacy bubble away, but keep it floating around somewhere for later use.
    [x] Ask Mami to contact Kazusa. Conference call everybody, not just Sabrina+Mami.
    -[x] NiceBrina.
    -[x] Standard spiel about helping Magical Girls.
    -[x] If necessary, admit to having other reasons to want to visit, which should be talked in person.
    Number of voters: 5

    Vebyast, Redshirt Army, Recurrence, Onmur, Script Mak3r
  2. [x] Ask Mami to say hi to Kazusa
    -[x] Break for voting
    Number of voters: 1

    Appletank
Appletank going crazy!
 
What do you have in mind?
My current vote isn't quite what we'd usually use for a full update. Might not be all the way down at .5 level, but it's small enough that we wanted to be sure you were okay with it. If you're fine with outright .5 updates, though, no problem!

Speaking of which, .5 updates are awesome and there're more than a few places I think we should've used them in the past. This upcoming thing with Mami, for example, might be a candidate:

[] Take Mami into the privacy bubble, away from the rest of the group.
-[] Warn her Asunaro's problems might involve those secrets. Don't dissuade her, just warn her.
-[] Comfort. Make sure she's doing okay.
 
If Kazuza doesn't pick up, what's our plan? Go tommorow or go now?

I guess we enter timestop to plan our actions? Maybe do some arial reconnaissance?

Excuse you.



...

When are we going with Homu to stop for presents?

Tonight, possibly. It was one of the things we had tabled to occur during today's Homutalk, if Homura is up for it.
 
My current vote isn't quite what we'd usually use for a full update. Might not be all the way down at .5 level, but it's small enough that we wanted to be sure you were okay with it. If you're fine with outright .5 updates, though, no problem!

Speaking of which, .5 updates are awesome and there're more than a few places I think we should've used them in the past. This upcoming thing with Mami, for example, might be a candidate:

[] Take Mami into the privacy bubble, away from the rest of the group.
-[] Warn her Asunaro's problems might involve those secrets. Don't dissuade her, just warn her.
-[] Comfort. Make sure she's doing okay.
Comfort Mami or comfort ourselves with Mami? :V

Waaaah Mamiiiii...! It's gonna be the first time we're so far apart for so long in... ever! All my life!

If Kazuza doesn't pick up, what's our plan? Go tommorow or go now?
We get there five minutes ago.

I don't know how. Ask Homu. Make it happen.

Or it probably means Kazumi Mk. not-1 is online. So things might be going to shit, but Mami definitely shouldn't go...
 
If Kazuza doesn't pick up, what's our plan? Go tommorow or go now?

I guess we enter timestop to plan our actions? Maybe do some arial reconnaissance?
I think that, yes, we assume that things are fucked and go now. Timestop to plan and warn Mami, then do a sweep using the mobile oppression fortress and full sensor arrays.
Comfort Mami or comfort ourselves with Mami? :V

Waaaah Mamiiiii...! It's gonna be the first time we're so far apart for so long in... ever! All my life!
...We'll be inside the privacy bubble.

[] Take Mami into the privacy bubble, away from the rest of the group.
-[] Warn her Asunaro's problems might involve those secrets. Don't dissuade her, just warn her.
-[] Comfort. Make sure she's doing okay.
-[JK] Then take advantage of the privacy bubble to... to... hold hands. Lewd!
 
I think that, yes, we assume that things are fucked and go now. Timestop to plan and warn Mami, then do a sweep using the mobile oppression fortress and full sensor arrays.

...We'll be inside the privacy bubble.

[] Take Mami into the privacy bubble, away from the rest of the group.
-[] Warn her Asunaro's problems might involve those secrets. Don't dissuade her, just warn her.
-[] Comfort. Make sure she's doing okay.
-[JK] Then take advantage of the privacy bubble to... to... hold hands. Lewd!
Cheesus Crust keep that sheet away from here!

Go to QQ or something, geez. Darnation.

Better plan.

[Q] Comfort Mami.
-[Q] Hold her in your arms and spin joyfully.
 
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