To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I dunno if it applies to Chen, really, but I have to assume there will be people who will actually find an admiral job and like it, and decide to get comfy there. I strongly suspect that was the case with our previous Personnel admiral.
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I wonder what Old Man Seruk is up to these days?
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[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
Well there goes our diplo bonus of +4 to roles that shey provided. Still he served in that role for a long time now, and moving him to admiral in ops is nice. Will be interesting to see what sort of bonuses the 4 provide.
But I do like this lineup, a bit human heavy but eh that's how it shakes out. Also really like Sulu thoughts on the office. FDS is going to be antsy around us!
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
Well there goes our diplo bonus of +4 to roles that shey provided. Still he served in that role for a long time now, and moving him to admiral in ops is nice. Will be interesting to see what sort of bonuses the 4 provide.
But I do like this lineup, a bit human heavy but eh that's how it shakes out. Also really like Sulu thoughts on the office. FDS is going to be antsy around us!
Chen only has to be in office when ships are started for them to benefit, so any time after this year would be fine.
@OneirosTheWriter you might want to edit a link to our list of Admirals into the vote. I know where to find them, but making it easier for the casual voter to look at their choices would be all to the good.
Everyone else, I am not so sure about Lathriss in Tactical. Looking at his traits, we would be getting a highly aggressive risktaker when it comes to tactical advice and options. Is that what you want? I mean, maybe it is, but everything should know what they're buying.
Harriman also spent a lot of time in tactical, and he's a more calculating, moderate guy.
Everyone else, I am not so sure about Lathriss in Tactical. Looking at his traits, we would be getting a highly aggressive risktaker when it comes to tactical advice and options. Is that what you want? I mean, maybe it is, but everything should know what they're buying.
Harriman also spent a lot of time in tactical, and he's a more calculating, moderate guy.
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I'm not sure that stat would actually have any effect in the role, but even if it does special focus on being tactically well prepared for taking risky actions doesn't mean our commanders will necessarily take greater risks, just that they would be better equipped for doing so. And arguably doing especially well in whatever high risk high reward situations that end up actually happening is more important than maybe doing a bit better in low risk scenarios, so long as taking low risk options always remains on the table. And I don't see why it wouldn't, particularly considering he is also an expert in defensive doctrine.
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[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
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Lathriss is a risk taker and aggressive but that will not translate into all our commanders acting like him fully, because we gave him Tactical, not the Academy. And we're Starfleet, so it must be recognized that aggression will be moderated by being Starfleet. We don't usually get to pick our battles.
But rapid, aggressive action in a fight will cover for a multitude of sins. A little bit of Pathe Lathriss rubbing off would not be a bad thing.
But rapid, aggressive action in a fight will cover for a multitude of sins. A little bit of Pathe Lathriss rubbing off would not be a bad thing.
What the hell. I'll at least put up an alternative vote.
[X][TAC] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
Uhura completely reorganized and shook up Operations. I'd sort of like to see what changes she might make to Tactical if given half the chance.
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
Who that? Sirvk has actually been around for quite a while in the quest. He's been Director, 40 Eridani A Fleet Yards since the quest began and a Rear Admiral for fourteen years (TIR since '02.) The man knows his explorers and ship construction techniques. So if you want to vote for someone who will give a heavy bonus to ship construction techniques, this is the guy. His stat sheet:
Current Posting: Director, 40 Eridani A Fleet Yards
Rule-Abiding: High
Aggression: Medium
Nerve: Low
Diplomacy: Medium
Politics: High
A steady hand at the tiller of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, Sirvk's attention to detail has seen him his shipyard never skip a beat throughout his tenure, even as Excelsior after Excelsior slides out of the berths.
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So here is the requirement for this slot: (Admiral roles may be taken by a VAdm with 4+ years, Vice Admiral roles may be taken by a VAdm, or a RAdm with 3+ years).
@OneirosTheWriter I don't know if you intended this, but Shey ch'Tharvasse and Patricia Chen are literally the only possible choice for this Admiral slot. They are the only two VAdms with sufficient time in rank. Is that what you meant to do?
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
Yeah, I get we need to keep Chen in place for Reasons.
[X][COS] Rear Admiral T'Lam
So for a Chief of Staff I'd argue we want someone who will balance out Sulu a little better. Call him on things when he's going too far. I worry Uhura would simply reinforce his wilder schemes. To me that means Low aggression. I go over the list and who do I find but Rear Admiral T'Lam. She actually has quite a history in this quest and was at one point chief of staff for Starfleet Intelligence command, though she currently commands a Starbase. Using her as Chief of Staff could give her the experience to go back and take over Linderly's job in Stafleet Intelligence some day.
Current Posting: Commander, Starbase 6 [Beta Indi]
Rule-Abiding: Medium
Aggression: Low
Nerve: Low
Diplomacy: High
Politics: Medium
[X][TAC] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
Uhura completely reorganized and shook up Operations. I'd sort of like to see what changes she might make to Tactical if given half the chance.
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
Who that? Sirvk has actually been around for quite a while in the quest. He's been Director, 40 Eridani A Fleet Yards since the quest began and a Rear Admiral for fourteen years (TIR since '02.) The man knows his explorers and ship construction techniques. So if you want to vote for someone who will give a heavy bonus to ship construction techniques, this is the guy. His stat sheet:
Current Posting: Director, 40 Eridani A Fleet Yards
Rule-Abiding: High
Aggression: Medium
Nerve: Low
Diplomacy: Medium
Politics: High
A steady hand at the tiller of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, Sirvk's attention to detail has seen him his shipyard never skip a beat throughout his tenure, even as Excelsior after Excelsior slides out of the berths.
[ ][OPS] NO VOTE YET
So here is the requirement for this slot: (Admiral roles may be taken by a VAdm with 4+ years, Vice Admiral roles may be taken by a VAdm, or a RAdm with 3+ years).
@OneirosTheWriter I don't know if you intended this, but Shey ch'Tharvasse and Patricia Chen are literally the only possible choice for this Admiral slot. They are the only two VAdms with sufficient time in rank. Is that what you meant to do?
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
Yeah, I get we need to keep Chen in place for Reasons.
[X][COS] Rear Admiral T'Lam
So for a Chief of Staff I'd argue we want someone who will balance out Sulu a little better. Call him on things when he's going too far. I worry Uhura would simply reinforce his wilder schemes. To me that means Low aggression. I go over the list and who do I find but Rear Admiral T'Lam. She actually has quite a history in this quest and was at one point chief of staff for Starfleet Intelligence command, though she currently commands a Starbase. Using her as Chief of Staff could give her the experience to go back and take over Linderly's job in Stafleet Intelligence some day.
Current Posting: Commander, Starbase 6 [Beta Indi]
Rule-Abiding: Medium
Aggression: Low
Nerve: Low
Diplomacy: High
Politics: Medium
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Rear Admiral Zrai ch'Shennaryth, the one from the post-service care department.
Uhura has been overseeing the transition but she herself does not have the necessary experience for the promotion.
Right, I'll do that.
Off the top of my head, I'm not aware of anyone with three years but not four?
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Uhura comes closest, but is short of 3 years TIR, and we didn't promote anyone else between Chen and Uhura. So yes, the 4 rather than 3 TIR requirement doesn't actually do anything.
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Chen 4 years
Uhura 2.5 years
Linderley 1.75 years
Harriman/T'Faer/Sotak/zh'Dohlen 1.5 years
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That's exactly the sort of job Eaton doesn't want though.
I also don't follow the argument for Sotak there, most of his experience is as Starbase commander which is almost entirely unrelated, and Starfleet Intelligence experience isn't particularly closely related either (has close connections to Foreign Analysis research but little else). If we were to pick a Vulcan VADM promoted at that time T'Faer would be a much more obvious choice.
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[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Vice Admiral Sotak
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
Good points, it still gets Eaton a promotion by putting her in the vacant theatre command and is still a more relaxed role than she was in. Plus I think for ops if we tap shey as the next head of Starfleet we can promote one of the theater commanders to head of ops, all of them will have time in rank at that point.
[X][SDB] Vice Admiral Sotak
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
Good points, it still gets Eaton a promotion by putting her in the vacant theatre command and is still a more relaxed role than she was in. Plus I think for ops if we tap shey as the next head of Starfleet we can promote one of the theater commanders to head of ops, all of them will have time in rank at that point.
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I like the cut of your jib.
[ ][TAC] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[ ][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
[ ][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[ ][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
[ ][COS] Rear Admiral T'Lam
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Altering vote
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Marvel No-Prize Explanation: What Chakotay actually joined was the equivalent of Starfleet JROTC, a youth organization run for students who have ambitions to someday join Starfleet and want to get a leg up on their training.
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Kids running away to join the army and lying about their age is not an uncommon story. Now it's impressive he managed to falsify his records, but I'll assume he got help from someone.
I said if necessary, we don't have to promote her at the moment, but if we do moving Sotak opens up a slot for her. And so far she has distinguished herself in fleet command roles, a theatre command is the logical progression.
Sotak's Intel background seems to have been in evaluation of foreign shipbuilding and ship capabilities. To do this he must have a good grasp of these subjects, and an insight on what areas Starfleet research needs to develop in order to remain parity with other great powers.
His time as a star base commander (and really star base rear admirals were actually sector commanders) gives the experience in managing large shore based organisations with wide ranging responsibilities with an emphasis on starship maintenance and logistical support.
I feel his past as given a great breadth of experience in multiple areas that could benefit the SDB.
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I don't know... seems pretty tenuous to me. Putting Eaton aside, wouldn't Sirvk make more sense? If you want someone who knows ship-building, the guy who spent at least 16 years building ships would seem a better choice.
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He ran away from his colony to join actual no shit Starfleet Academy. His career starts there (Before he deserts)
Apparently a "Captain Sulu" is responsible.
Sirvk is a good choice too. But there is more to the SDB's remit than just building ships.
Chakotay is obviously an agent of the Sulu's shadow state apparatus.
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[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
Switching Chen and Shey.
Chen 2321/2322/2323/2324!
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
Switching Chen and Shey.
Chen 2321/2322/2323/2324!