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I have no doubt it will be plot significant.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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This all looks very reasonable. Going by current designs I find it unlikely we'll want geo sensors on the Kepler unless they are very light - we'd be talking loss of crucial stats for a conditional +1 to mapping missions only. That said there wouldn't be much point to geo sensors at all unless they were very light.
Opinions on the three COMMS techs?
Federation Datanet: +5 rp/year and +1 random non-affiliate roll
Colony Datanet: +1 rp/colony and +1 to affiliate diplo rolls
Fleet Comms: +1 ship can respond and +1% fleet combat
Colony datanet will produce more RP but having an affiliate bonus is worse than the non-affiliate roll, which is fantastic in saving us PP.
I don't see the benefit to fleet comms given that we rarely have multiple ship responders (would have meant something if we had, say, gone Swarm Doctrine). 1% is a small bonus but stacking small bonuses is necessary.
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- somewhere
We used to have multiple responders pretty often before we were spread so thin, hopefully by the time the tech finishes that could easily be the case again (Gabriel situation settled, open war with Cardassians avoided, no other active conflicts), if not we'll probably really want that +1% fleet combat.
If survey sensors were to be non-cost effective even on a dedicated science ship they'd be utterly useless and need to be either rebalanced or removed.
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Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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IMO we're going to want fleet comms first, given that I bet we'll be at war with the Cardassians by the time the research is over. After that, probably Colony Datanet since it's going to be worth about 25-30rp by the time we get it.
The diplopushes are nice, but given that we will soon be in time of war, somewhat less important m if we weren't I'd do Colony Net, then Federation, and do Fleet last. Fleet will have nice synergy with our Border Focus doctrine...
The diplopushes are nice, but given that we will soon be in time of war, somewhat less important m if we weren't I'd do Colony Net, then Federation, and do Fleet last. Fleet will have nice synergy with our Border Focus doctrine...
*Spitballing* Nash?
Continuing with my assumption that the Starfleet signal is from a Ranger-class Enterprise I'm going to say they are the former captain of said ship.
It's our choice to make a science frigate as opposed to a cruiser or bigger.
EDIT: I would like at least the option to vote for something else and not bother with geo sensors right now.
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aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
- Location
- Laniakea Supercluster
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- She/Her
Sousa knows who Nash is though, they've met and worked together several times.
For that matter, having been around since before Rogers imploded means she probably knows all the flag ranks in the Fleet going back to the 80's at least.
The only reason I'm okay with ordering the Kepler before 2320 is because we're able to deliver the project within the very tight tolerances of a frigate design. Adding more to the pile is not helpful and if you want to scope creep the design then we should have waited five more years.
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- Earth
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[x] The Fourth Planet
Well, she explicitly didn't know this Vice Admiral, and here's a fun thought: when she 'knew' Nash, she knew her as a younger captain/commodore. An older Nash could easy pass herself off as anouther Andorian Woman who happens to have a higher rank...but I hope I'm wrong, I want Nash to have gone down with the ship if we're not getting both back, having one or the other only seems wrong.
Night
Widow Null
- Location
- Hoff
Montgomery Scott, possibly. Other possible suspects include Christine Chapel and Mark Piper who both served as CMO at some point, anyone on the long list of Enterprise communication and conn officers that didn't get mentioned before (my vote is for Arex or M'Ress from TAS, maybe Angela Martine; it'd be nice to think her life was better than losing her fiancee in Balance of Terror and nearly being killed during Shore Leave.) It could also be Lieutenant Commander Giotto, who led Enterprise security, briefly, in Devil in the Dark. And then was neverrrrr seen again, but didn't die.
By the way, it seems to me that "both very old" implies that neither is the Enterprise-B, because Uhura goes on to identify old as being in the sense of years before their current technology.
Exploration, exploration, exploration.
You know... I'm wondering if the Federation requirement that member fleets stay within their home sector isn't going to be a major sticking point for the Qloathi when it comes to Federation membership. They're going to gripe a hell of a lot about why their Secretary of Exploration is no longer allowed to manage exploration into unknown space and they have to leave it all to Starfleet.
Compromises may have to be made, though one understands why the Federation is leery about the possibility of member fleet ships making First Contacts.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Either someone from Temporal Affairs, or an Enterprise veteran Sousa simply doesn't know personally.
Leslie:
"Uh yeah, there's a reason for Giotto not getting heard from much. See, Captain Kirk put him in charge of a security detail. ONCE. Giotto fell for the old 'hey, look over here' trick. Then we got six kinds of snot beaten out of us. Yeah, that's me on the far right getting hit with a pipe when I'm down. More than once.
"Jim Kirk didn't have Giotto lead any more away teams after that."
My guess is the unknown is high up in Temporal Affairs. They "retired" but not really.
Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
Well, that probably rules him out for rear admiralcy.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
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- They/Them/It
On the plus side, I bet we'll get a lot of Explorer Corps recruits per capita from them. And maybe some of them will be able to fold into Starfleet?
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
We might want to relax that policy, at least for ships designed for long term exploration. Stick some FDS staff on board just in case, but I don't think it's an insurmountable issue. And it might be nice to potentially have some backup for our EC ships in a pinch. I doubt most of our member fleets will ever field more than 2-3 explorer grade ships at a time, and most of those will probably stick to sector defense. So letting a few exceptions like the Qloathi explorer or the Gaeni Tech-Explorer or the Basilica of Lakhept slide could probably be arranged.
It could be an interesting capstone deal for Sousa's career.
A member fleet exploration initiative, legislation that would relax the restrictions on member fleet borders for dedicated exploration missions, with support from Starfleet and FDS liaisons. Reasoning: many of our new and upcoming members have fleets whose primary mission include exploring the final frontier. It would be a waste to subordinate that spirit entirely to Starfleet. The articles that restrict member fleets were not meant to accidentally destroy something that makes their races unique.
Likely support from the Expansionists and we can probably bring the Pacifists on. The problem is I can see Development and the Mercantilists opposed, but it's also a bill that might split on racial lines?
IDK if it's a good idea, but it's an interesting one.
A member fleet exploration initiative, legislation that would relax the restrictions on member fleet borders for dedicated exploration missions, with support from Starfleet and FDS liaisons. Reasoning: many of our new and upcoming members have fleets whose primary mission include exploring the final frontier. It would be a waste to subordinate that spirit entirely to Starfleet. The articles that restrict member fleets were not meant to accidentally destroy something that makes their races unique.
Likely support from the Expansionists and we can probably bring the Pacifists on. The problem is I can see Development and the Mercantilists opposed, but it's also a bill that might split on racial lines?
IDK if it's a good idea, but it's an interesting one.
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aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
- Location
- Laniakea Supercluster
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- She/Her
It's in a good spirit for encouraging member fleet independence and exploration. I feel like if it does go along species lines... the Humans and Amarki will be all for it, Betazoids too possibly, and the Rigellians might since I vaguely recall them wanting to refit the Yagad-Tich/build a new class for farther-ranged missions.
The Vulcans and Andorians probably will vote the way of X and P on it, the Tellarites will be solid against and Indorians might too, the Apiata and Caitians are possible wildcards.
ClawClawBite
Mad Engineering!
- Location
- Seattle, WA
I know we have lone ranger, but even if we don't do full member world exportation, having a program of paring them up with Starfleet explorers, as we have been doing on an ad hock system with affiliates, may be a solution (that does not make our logs get too high numbers, or risk low skill crews making first contact).
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
I think the two signals might be the original NX-01 Enterprise, and a Ranger-class Enterprise from shortly after the formation of the UFP that was to Archer what the Enterprise-A was for Kirk? The ship number wasn't carried over because that Enterprise didn't really leave too much of a lasting legacy, compared to the NCC-1701?