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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • Kaiser Chris said:
    If anyone has any other suggestions then that's fine with me but we'll probably just do with one more at most.
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    Might I suggest what I came up with earlier for the third linetail?

    Kaiser Chris said:
    There's also importing Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla since we've established a relationship with Toho for a bonus and it'll make for a nice end of summer release. If people want me to switch that with ILM or contract negotiations that's fine.
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    I do think that ILM or contracts would be better, but it works fine as is I think.
     
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    Schehera Zade said:
    Might I suggest what I came up with earlier for the third linetail?

    I do think that ILM or contracts would be better, but it works fine as is I think.
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    Sure what is it?

    Like I said, I'm down to switching it over to Star Wars stuff, just wanted a film import to earn Lucasfilms more money and get experience for distribution. But if you or others want to switch then I am definitely open. Maybe ILM since we failed contracts last time and got til the end of the year.

    Orion Ultor said:
    It ain't Geese until we're married.
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    Considering Carrie got rid of her drug addiction and isn't going to battle alcoholism or enter into shock therapy, I think her second memoir will probably be titled "The Princess and the Goose" focused on her relationship with Bruce and their journey in life.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Sure what is it?
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    Here, I'll quote it so you can check it out because I have to get ready soon for my next class.

    Honestly, I don't think this is strictly true. You as a viewer obviously do care that a whole planet was just wiped out as a message, but I think the reason it lands a little flat is that we barely see it affecting Leia and Obi Wan communicates the effect in the Force to us and Luke in a pretty muted fashion. I think an easy fix would be to just have it more clearly affect Obi-Wan, perhaps by having him far more weakened and winded from it, as well as showing Leia in her cell after Alderaan's destruction and while she put up a strong front in front of Tarkin and the Stormtroopers(was Vader there? I can't remember), once she's alone in her cell, she starts crying to herself. This gives her a moment to grieve as a character as well as allowing the audience to truly digest the fact that a whole planet worth of people was just blown up, while also not potentially cluttering the film or affecting pacing. It always struck me as odd that when Luke comes in the cell to let her out, she's just lounging and makes quips, all right after her planet was blown up and everyone she ever cared for was just eradicated. It's a whole lot of tonal whiplash, although you admittedly don't feel it too strongly when watching because of how little attention they give to Alderaan but that is a problem that needs fixing. Instead, we could have her still be depressed by the time that Luke arrives to her cell and she can still make her quip about him being short for a stormtrooper, but it's more bitter, sarcastic, and resigned but still a show of defiance as opposed to some teasing+sexual teasing. Then Luke reveals that he's there to rescue her and that they need to go. We see that she's surprised by this and we saw her being resigned and losing hope earlier, but after hearing this, she takes a bit of time but quickly collects herself and escapes with Luke, where everything proceeds as it did. This allows her to showcase a more tender side to her earlier on, than just her romance with Han, as well as showing that despite her losing hope and the tragic loss of her people, that she is tough, committed, and determined enough to push through for the time being. She can feel sorry for herself later, right now, she has a chance to escape and still foil the Empire's plans and ensure Alderaan didn't die in vain. I think this simple addition would do wonders for her characterization in the film and solve a pretty glaring issue at the same time.
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    P.S. I would phrase the linetail as "Making the destruction of Alderaan more impactful by..."
     
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    [X] Plan Preproduction, family and friends.
    -[X] Preproduction (The Effects): You want to Plan out what the Hell George is going to do with the ILM… Or the Magician's first outing. (Begin a small Mini-turn to plan out the effects and the possible sequences in it.) DC:50
    -[X]PreProduction (Ironing Out the Script): George is a good Screenwriter… but you can hire several people that can help him (Allows you to hire a screenwriter, and add some small ideas within George's Script. Or just have it focus on one particular aspect that can be improved) DC: 10 (If you want to write in an idea, please linetail below)
    --[X] Develop the dialogue so it strikes a balance between George's vision and worldbuilding and a more natural delivery that audiences can relate to.
    --[X] Include subtle hints in Han's dialogue and blocking that suggests that he is a former Imperial. Nothing that dominates a scene, but quiet character moments that can be explored in the sequels.
    -[X]Contract Negotiations (Everyone): You need to make sure George is paying everyone properly. DC 50
    -[X] Opening Night: They finished the film Early, and they are going to release it in Style. So you're going to be there for Carrie. DC: 0
    -[X] And The Question was Asked: You called Debbie to your home. And asked her for her permission. DC:???
    -[X] And The Great Friendship Between Debbie Reynolds and Clint Eastwood: You never expected Clint and Debbie to actually spend time together as friends. Isn't that surprising? DC: 30
    -[X]Pray: It had been a long time since you went to Mass. You wish for the Lord to give you strength. DC: ???
    -[X] Call your parents: You need to call mom and dad, and see how they are doing. DC: 10 (You call your parents and see what they are doing

    Ok my plan is basically spend as mucn time as we can with out family and friends, and do the rest of the pre production actions, before it is too late...
     
    Schehera Zade said:
    How so? I'm curious what makes you believe this.
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    Well, I get your argument that it is somewhat odd to have nearly no reaction from Leia that her people died, and that showing her grieve for them would make it more obvious to the audience that an entire planet full of people died. But to me, the Original Trilogy did perfectly with Leia not reacting that much later on as it showed her to be a strong leader, someone who had to keep going in order to prevent such tragedies to happen again. Certainly not heartless, but that she knows there's a time and place for grief, and being in the middle of a space station controlled by the Empire (who could very well be monitoring at all times) is not one of them.

    Then there's Obi Wan, his reaction was perfect in my opinion; He stumbles, he catches himself, there's a bit of sadness in his voice, but he recovers quickly. Perhaps from this is where the idea of the Jedi understanding how "There is not Death, there is the Force" concept comes from, one that I fully aprove and belive it fits with the entire philosophy of selflessness and control of the Jedi.

    And frankly, we are not going to be able to get the audience to care about Alderaan unless we : a) Have someone we care be on the planet when it's destroyed. Or b) spend so much time showing the life on the planet that the audience gets attached to it. "One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic." And such is the case with Alderaan, it serves as shock value and to show the power of the Death Star, which is why there was not that much emotional investment when it was destroyed, but everyone was on the edge of their seats when it looked like it was going to destroy Yavin IV.
     
    overmind said:
    Well, I get your argument that it is somewhat odd to have nearly no reaction from Leia that her people died, and that showing her grieve for them would make it more obvious to the audience that an entire planet full of people died. But to me, the Original Trilogy did perfectly with Leia not reacting that much later on as it showed her to be a strong leader, someone who had to keep going in order to prevent such tragedies to happen again. Certainly not heartless, but that she knows there's a time and place for grief, and being in the middle of a space station controlled by the Empire (who could very well be monitoring at all times) is not one of them.

    Then there's Obi Wan, his reaction was perfect in my opinion; He stumbles, he catches himself, there's a bit of sadness in his voice, but he recovers quickly. erhaps from this is where the idea of the Jedi understanding how "There is not Death, there is the Force" concept comes from, one that I fully aprove and belive it fits with the entire philosophy of selflessness and control of the Jedi.

    And frankly, we are not going to be able to get the audience to care about Alderaan unless we : a) Have someone we care be on the planet when it's destroyed. Or b) spend so much time showing the life on the planet that the audience gets attached to it. "One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic." And such is the case with Alderaan, it serves as shock value and to show the power of the Death Star, which is why there was not that much emotional investment when it was destroyed, but everyone was on the edge of their seats when it looked like it was going to destroy Yavin IV.
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    I...don't think you quite grasped what it was that I laid out in my suggestion because nothing that you say actually contradicts what I wrote up. I entirely agree that Leia is a strong person who knows the time and place to grieve, which is exactly why I had her follow this. She defies and struggles against them when she's with Tarkin, but once she's alone in her cell and given time to herself, she lets herself grieve. Remember, as far as she knows, she's done for. She has absolutely no reason to believe that she would be saved and she doesn't know if the Death Star plans got to Obi-Wan or not, and with the death of literally everyone she knew and loved, it's not unreasonable for her to begin crying to herself. For all she knows, she's going to be executed soon. She's a person, not some stiff and emotionless 80s action star. And once Luke comes to save her, she recollects herself because it's no longer the time to keep grieving, now is a chance to escape and continue the fight. And from there, there is no difference in how Leia is shown.

    For Obi-Wan, again, nothing you said contradicts what I laid out. I'm not saying he should be pooped for hours or something, I'm saying that his reaction should be more than just a stumble. I think someone earlier brought up that it should be like a heart attack and I completely agree. He just felt the death of 2 billion people through the Force all at once, it shouldn't be the case that he treats it as if he just got a sprained ankle and needs a little help sitting back down or something. I'm not saying he should recover slowly, after all, Christopher Lee isn't as old as Alec Guinness was for the film, but I do think it shouldn't be the same speed that one recovers from getting spooked by their cat, it's just silly. It should be a sharp reaction, but not necessarily a sustained reaction. Keep in mind, he's supposed to not only be feeling the 2 billion deaths, but also all of their fear and suffering and whatever else they felt as they died which got communicated through the Force.

    I firmly disagree with your assertion that the audience wouldn't care about Alderaan except through those methods. We care about Alderaan because the characters that we care about care for Alderaan. Alderaan's destruction might not mean much to an audience member directly, but it does matter to the likes of Leia whom the audience cares about, and that's enough. I also disagree with your assertions that Alderaan is less impactful because it's "a statistic." Like I said earlier, it lands flat because seemingly, not even Leia seemed to have given a shit in the film, which is bad writing and what I'm seeking to correct here.
     
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    SO... I'm really excited about Some nights enough to say this:

    Oh my god, the rolls!
     
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