So why not do it next turn or the turn after? When our ability to act will be less threatened by Negaduck?
Are you going to address the rest of Nystical's post, or are you going to ignore it like you did with mine?
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Are you going to address the rest of Nystical's post, or are you going to ignore it like you did with mine?
Are we concerned about Xanay using the Healthcare industry against us somehow? Is he even opposed to us right now? Seems like the worst thing he would be likely to do would to make more money than us.
Precisely. I don't want him making more money in genetic diseases than us. Genetics is a field that we can absolutely dominate the field in, it'd be a waste to put it off.
There's prestige and more for the taking. There is no reason to waste it than impatience in getting something we can't even use because of Negaduck.
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Because I have no faith in our ability to do it next turn, or the turn after that. We've put this thing off for a year now. Also, Negaduck does have the Dimensional Scissors, having some otherdimensional tech of our own might come in handy somehow.
The fact that we haven't done it should speak more to the ODI's usefulness than our ability to do it.
Negaduck will not be attacking us. He's sending one of the Five to do that. His attention is... elsewhere. Besides, the ODI is for extra-dimensional travel. Not teleportation. It won't affect the battle.
I just had a worrying thought. What if wherever Negaduck's personal attention is going involves something a bit more permanent than a smash, grab, and kill? What if he's trying to become a King in his own right somewhere?
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Given that the Franchise Wars are guaranteed regardless…
[x] Plan: Let's Get Dangerous + Kermit Goes to Washington
[x] Plan: Let's Get Dangerous + Kermit Goes to Washington
I think for me the issue is that completing ODI doesn't get us anything that we can use for like three turns at least, while genetic diseases (and Civ AI) has a benefit right here and right now, even if it is far less than what ODI will eventually get us. We're on a very desperate clock versus Negaduck, especially if Russ fails, so I think I'd rather have +1 Funds than not if Nega gets pissed off and decides to wreck us personally.
Eh, he's already a King in all but name. He was a King anyways, it bored him.
Currently I believe the theory is that he is going to try to shatter the Masquerade. Not a Masquerade. The Masquerade. Magic? Dimensional warlords? Governmental power? The more the merrier.
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...How would he achieve that by lobbing his "freinds" at some semi-randoms Kings?
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If that's the case we might want to invade Drusselstein before things get crazy, so we have some stability if the US is going to balkanize.
Precisely. I don't want him making more money in genetic diseases than us. Genetics is a field that we can absolutely dominate the field in, it'd be a waste to put it off. There's prestige and more for the taking. There is no reason to waste it than impatience in getting something we can't even use because of Negaduck.
Would you be terribly upset if I said I don't really care about dominating industry or getting prestige? Like, I'm not here to play business simulator. I personally view the various technologies and learning actions or tools we can use to achieve other more important goals. Maybe we aren't using the ODI right this second, but I've watched it get shoved aside in favor of other things for a long while now, and we ARE going to need it eventually. I don't want to run the risk that we leave it until after Nega, only to find a problem waiting immediately on the other side that needs it, and we don't have it.
Edit: uh, that first paragraph is supposed to be a quote from @MrHobbit? I don't...know how to fix that
Would you be terribly upset if I said I don't really care about dominating industry or getting prestige? Like, I'm not here to play business simulator. I personally view the various technologies and learning actions or tools we can use to achieve other more important goals. Maybe we aren't using the ODI right this second, but I've watched it get shoved aside in favor of other things for a long while now, and we ARE going to need it eventually. I don't want to run the risk that we leave it until after Nega, only to find a problem waiting immediately on the other side that needs it, and we don't have it.
Edit: uh, that first paragraph is supposed to be a quote from @MrHobbit? I don't...know how to fix that
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Killing a bunch of members of various minority groups and using that to spread the truth. Olivebirdy proposed it iirc. Besides, throwing the Fearsome Five around is the prelude to the Big Event.
Not putting efforts into genetics would be such a massive waste of our potential that it would anticlimactic, among other things, if anything. Look at all the advantages we have. Doof himself! Ludivine, Jumba. It would also play into the New Man Project.
So we can research ODI July/August, which is when the Negaduck crisis will be confirmed to be over... one way or another.
We aren't going to be using the ODI at minimum until July/August, and that's only if Negaduck attacks at the end of May/June, when he can also attack in the middle of July/August and at the end of July/August. I'm also a bit skeptical of the idea of conquering new worlds right in the aftermath of Negaduck.
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Meh probably as a distraction or the Show that he and his organization, is a biggest treat than other stuff on the board.
Ngeaduck wants attention, and he is wanting to show that he is the top dog, of all the badies right now.
or thats my theory.
I mean we don't know the scope of his army of subordinates, he could have maybe send the five to entertaiment all the kings that he has a beed of that he knows could affect his plans in a way. Also Doof is super random, if i have a plan to do something big, but i know that Doof and his faction could change the outcome in anyway that i can control, i will try to make him focus on sometrhing so, the Chaos caused by Doof or his allies actions, will be mitigated.
He is probably trying to break down the Masquerade, and at the same time?. Is doing something related to utterly shatter all the reputations of Toonsfolk, and toons in general in all the country.
.......Or he is still pissed that Glomgold killed his musical, and wants to end him for real this time, and will destroy anything Glomgold related, in any shape and form.
Btw, If Bradford does show ups, i would like him to Negaduck and the five, have reformed him in a super competent villain (ala Gun from lookism)
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My preferred plan doesn't look like it has a chance of winning, so tactical vote swap time. I know the ODI has been burning a hole in our pocket for a while now, but I agree with the reasoning that it'd be better to put it off until this crisis is over.
[x] Plan: Let's Get Dangerous + Kermit Goes to Washington
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Negaduck is coming and while we're trying to prepare for him, we still don't know how well we'll do vs who he sends our way. So having good healthcare in the wake of things absolutely is not something that can hurt when it comes to helping people. Which also should bring public opinion benefits as well.
I like ODI a lot but I do think this is more directly useful and relevant at this moment in time.
[x] Plan: Let's Get Dangerous + Kermit Goes to Washington
I mean, its more a number of things. We want to be the first ones who reaches the higher echelons of the Healthcare industry. If we hit rank 6 first, no one else can go above Rank 4 and all rivals will have a -10 to their rolls in that field. That rather obviously is a ways away but its something to consider. We have literally the best geneticist around in Jumba alongside a councilor who has it as a main priority in Janus, where by all accounts this is a field that has heavy crossover with the genetics industry. So going in on this is hitting two birds with one stone.
Negaduck is coming and while we're trying to prepare for him, we still don't know how well we'll do vs who he sends our way. So having good healthcare in the wake of things absolutely is not something that can hurt when it comes to helping people. Which also should bring public opinion benefits as well.
I like ODI a lot but I do think this is more directly useful and relevant at this moment in time.
Excellently summarised.
What people need to remember is that ODI is basically the admission ticket to a new long term questline/event.
We already have a very significant event going on right now, so it's better we take actions that will help us with that. Eat your dinner before your dessert.
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There will never be a great time to do ODI, Tempest Domain or SHIVA. There will always be fires. After Negaduck I'm guessing the next fire will come from San Fransokyo
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the nice thing is we do not live in sokyo, which means that it is easier to not have to deal with those fires beyond how much we want to. san fran is not comming to danville to murder us
Hmmm
Use of aerosolized night howler toxin to drive a lot of humans murderously furious towards *insert convenient target here* and then take over whatever his end goal happens to be?
Personally, given that it sounds like there may be a Xanatos focus, I am suspecting that he may want to take over the Moon base.
I am an adult, damn it. If I want to eat ice cream for dinner, I am allowed!
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That's not considering the context of the quoted rival report. Negaduck went 'Eureka!' when he saw his own clone, deciding on his finale. We should be thinking clones, repeats, time travel, or somehow the idea of Negaduck himself.