Yeah, perhaps that sort of thing. The Loec proto-trickster-God aspect doubled down on 'embrace unnecessary violence', (and dance?) taking it with them, leaving the trickster-God proto-Ranald aspect disposed against unnecessary violence- an eventual schism and perhaps even a Godly split?
Ranald got a -10 of "Not Their Idiom", but while we don't know for sure the exact reason this situation didn't qualify as His idiom, I think the natural implication is that it was well, a Godly fistfight. I think this suggests that Ranald not being the violent type isn't just something he pretends at for humans, but that it's an actual Thing that he's not that great at violence.
That depends on how much the worship influences the god. Ranald is not much for violence but loec is. that doesn't mean their not the same, that only means that the mantle he has on comes with chosen fields. For humans it's cunning and luck, for elves it's murderblendering.
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So this is all wild speculation and not particularly backed up by Warhammer canon or Boney's canon, but here's my take on how gods work:
So Ranald and Loec and Qu'aph are "the same", in that many of the core concepts that make up their identity overlap in the Warp. But by the same token they're "different", since they have distinct identities and there are regions in the warp open to some of them but not others. Ranald is not a god of dancing, Loec is not a god of cats, and neither of them are gods of snakes.
Note: Regions are not to scale, Tzeentch is much, much larger than any of the other three gods I listed.
I wouldn't go that far. My desire to learn dancing is partly to integrate with Loec, partly thinking extremely long-term on how we might reach Grandmaster levels of Greatsword skill.
I would say that the main thing linking them is that they're the respective Goddamn It, I Guess You're Not Going Away Anytime Soon gods of their associated pantheons. The trickster-gods who mainly cause trouble, but it varies whether it is to enemies or friends. Gods of shadow and cunning, but also of entertainment - instead of dance and song and plays, Ranald has games and gambling. For a human, Loec is definitely excessive, but I get the impression the Elven interpretation is more metaphorical and maybe less terrible philosophically.
The whole torture and killing bit isn't actually a Loec thing AFAICT - remember, Khaine is the elves primary god of warfare, while Loec is not a god of warfare at all. The Naggarythe are warriors and Loec worshippers, but they're not warriors because they're Loec worshippers, and Loec himself is well known for running the fuck away whenever there's a chance of a fight - he doesn't mug Slaanesh to free souls, he dances past and steals them.
The power of belief is some strong stuff, eh?
It got me thinking on "incomplete" spells, and I wonder if perhaps we could invent a "baseline" fog spell that uses the fog as a delivery mechanism for an effect, and thus it would take minimal effort to invent/learn variations on the spell because all you'd have to do is add on say, a "confusion" element or something and tie it into the delivery mechanism.
Stealing souls from Slaanesh must be some other Guy, from some other Chaos God, in some other Universe.
What makes you say that? Slaanesh in WHF, even in BoneyCanon, is entirely capable of claiming the souls of the uncorrupted through ritual sacrifice, and Loec's mythology says he steals souls from Slaanesh through sneakiness, cunning, and subterfuge. (EDIT: Always avoiding any outright fights)
Can't tell who that would make madder, the Ranaldites or the Asur.
Another thing that Mathilde has in common with Loec is mugging Slaanesh for souls, apparently.
Not only did Mathilde save a bunch of souls from Slaanesh but she did it in such a way that she got demons to kill each other and attack a fortify place.
This is true, and if we tried to invent a spell like this we'd probably incorporate a lot of stuff from Rite of Way, but I do think it'd have to have a lot of new elements as well. Like, Rite of Way exudes a rolling fog, but this "modular fog" idea might need something else. Or, uh, a similarly modular mode of exuding fog.
