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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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DarknessSmiles said:
and i think we need 35 to get the 7 powerstones we want. ugh. thats a lot.
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If we spend 5 CF to bookmine with a Celestial, then we need a total of 14 more CF than we do now.

I think that's plausible in ~3 turns even with just Serenity writing, seeing as we're finishing the mushroom book next turn, and we've still got the salamanders social to get AV.

Plus, if we want to do the AV book+Orbs megaflex, we'll need to spend some more time researching AV anyway.

At worst, we can throw in an AV-granting WEBMAT action like making and donating a Windherded enchantment or writing a book/2 papers with Max, and we should be just fine.
 
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We have 4 books, 6 papers and 7 artifacts to go through before we run out of CF generation, and that's presuming we don't do or find anything else in the meantime. We're fine.
 
We can always spend a action with max writing two papers or a book. Now what would be worth the most CF will be a argument. Also the study of the many artifacts and other odd ends we have could produce favors. If the Ghyran nut is a acorn from a certain tree than it be worth a lot to the Jade college, of course it could also be made into a artifact that could resurrect a lot of people.
 
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LadyLynn said:
We're finishing the mushroom book next turn, and we've still got the salamanders social. Those should give a decent chunk of AV.

If we spend 5 CF to bookmine with a Celestial, then we need a total of 14 more CF than we do now. I think that's plausible in ~3 turns even with just Serenity writing, and if we want to do the AV book+Orbs megaflex, we'll need to spend some more time researching AV anyway.

At worst, we can throw in an AV-granting WEBMAT action like making and donating a Windherded enchantment or writing a book/2 papers with Max, and we should be just fine.
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I did a breakdown of this some time ago and yeah, even in a rather pessimistic scenario, we can get those orbs in four turns. Realistically speaking, if we decide to spend one turn having our minions write up some of the backlog, we could get there in three turns while still putting a hefty number of actions into the Waystone project.
 
LadyLynn said:
On the Ranald and Loec thing... There's quite a lot of things pointing to them being, to some degree, the same being. Their energies appearing the same to Deathfang, Ranald "making amends" to the Kislev gods who some of us have theorized to be Ellinilli, and I'm sure a variety of other things I can't think of off the top of my head.

But there are also things that very strongly suggest they're not the same, or at least not entirely. Ranald just isn't all that violent, being a prime example. In fact, during our attack on the Kislev encampment:

Ranald got a -10 of "Not Their Idiom", but while we don't know for sure the exact reason this situation didn't qualify as His idiom, I think the natural implication is that it was well, a Godly fistfight. I think this suggests that Ranald not being the violent type isn't just something he pretends at for humans, but that it's an actual Thing that he's not that great at violence.

And well, Loec is very good at violence.

Personally, I find the "they're diverging beings of some kind" to be the most plausible theory. With Ranald sort of having branched off of Loec. So they have the same history, and in some ways they're still very similar, and in other ways they've diverged quite far from each other.
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I recall we had a discussion on God-As-Nation before.

The underlying Winds and Concept domains they cover are the geography. Geography shapes a nation, but only in that it determines what things are good ideas for a given nation and what things are bad ideas. A God can gain or lose coverage of domains.

The worship they recieve, their priests/Chosen and their Daemons(or equivalents thereof) translates to the nation's population. These establish the culture of the nation and thus the personality of the God, but do not inherently compel actions. Particularly potent examples may be able to take small scale actions on their own.

The godhead/avatar is then the administration of the nation. It is what is necessary for a nation to wield its strength deliberately in a focused manner. Some gods are more influenced by their worship than others, but wholly diverging from their worship isn't really sustainable.

So extending the metaphor, the overall entity spread across human and elf populations, gaining a lot of worship. This worship then went to filling out associated domains. However, the needs of the population diverged, as the elf population acquired more violence, and the human population acquired more pacifistic influences.

To that end, the administration split...but both Godheads still share trickery territory and that means like hell they'd let on that they is/were once one, or two or many.
 
I think the sheep breed may come to be Rambouillet sheep - Wikipedia
Rambouillet sheep is one of the most common sheep in the world. They make up half the sheep in the United States and Australia. They are big sheep weighing about 200-300 pounds or 90 kilos to 140 kilos. They are also one of the more resistant sheep to dying like a sheep. They were crossbred with a flock from Spain than raised on a French royal farm. But it was the Germans who really raised them into large numbers. The sheep may become something that will help a lot of people World wide
 
Something to consider while I work on the coming update. This may not be the final form this section will take.


The Waystone Project, Research

[ ] Waystone: Capstone
[ ] Waystone: Runes
[ ] Waystone: Foundation
[ ] Waystone: Leylines
[-] Waystone: Build an Elven Waystone
Requires Capstone, Runes, Foundation, and Leylines to be fully and successfully completed.

[ ] Waystone: Nexuses
Specify which: Marienburg (Almshoven and Fort Solace), Forest of Shadows (Brass Keep, Blood Fane, Tower of Melkhior), Reikland (Axe Bite Pass and Grey Lady Pass), Mordheim, Los Cabos, Bugman's Brewery.
[ ] Waystone: Tributaries
Specify which type: Belthani, Scythian, Lornalim.
[ ] Waystone: Mapping
Specify two of: Empire, Bretonnia, Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes, Araby, Badlands.
[ ] Waystone: Other Networks
Specify which: Karaz Ankor, Kislev, Laurelorn, Athel Loren, Nehekhara.

For the above options, as well as any option-specific specifications, also state who you will be researching this. You can specify as many or as few members of the Project as you please, as well as bringing in people from outside the Project if you pay for their services or convince them in some other way.. If the only ones involved are members of WEB-MAT the action can count as a WEB-MAT action. In general the fastest progress will be made by involving only those with the most applicable knowledge, but also keep in mind how each individual might feel about being included or excluded in a particular investigation.
 
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veekie said:
So extending the metaphor, the overall entity spread across human and elf populations, gaining a lot of worship. This worship then went to filling out associated domains. However, the needs of the population diverged, as the elf population acquired more violence, and the human population acquired more pacifistic influences.
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I wouldn't say humans are particularly pacifistic, but yes, there's something to be said about how they haven't been in a millennia-long civil war-

Boney said:
Something to consider while I work on the coming update. This may not be the final form this section will take.


The Waystone Project, Research

[ ] Waystone: Capstone
[ ] Waystone: Runes
[ ] Waystone: Foundation
[ ] Waystone: Leylines
[-] Waystone: Build an Elven Waystone
Requires Capstone, Runes, Foundation, and Leylines to be fully and successfully completed.

[ ] Waystone: Nexuses
Specify which: Marienburg (Almshoven and Fort Solace), Forest of Shadows (Brass Keep, Blood Fane, Tower of Melkhior), Reikland (Axe Bite Pass and Grey Lady Pass), Mordheim, Los Cabos, Bugman's Brewery.
[ ] Waystone: Tributaries
Specify which type: Belthani, Scythian, Lornalim.
[ ] Waystone: Mapping
Specify two of: Empire, Bretonnia, Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes, Araby, Badlands.
[ ] Waystone: Other Networks
Specify which: Karaz Ankor, Kislev, Laurelorn, Athel Loren, Nehekhara.

For the above options, as well as any option-specific specifications, also state who you will be researching this. You can specify as many or as few members of the Project as you please, as well as bringing in people from outside the Project if you pay for their services or convince them in some other way.. If the only ones involved are members of WEB-MAT the action can count as a WEB-MAT action. In general the fastest progress will be made by involving only those with the most applicable knowledge, but also keep in mind how each individual might feel about being included or excluded in a particular investigation.
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Oh, sick. Speaking of civil wars, I get the impression the thread is about to have one.
 
I really want to see what the waystone network in the Border Princes is like. I'm more than a little nervous that there's one in that one vampire city.
 
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