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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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He doesn't need time, just pay some elves to do deliveries, wood elves have a weird time thing in their Forest, I think these elves could do it too if they tried
 
This reminds me, @soulcake, how did Snorri (and other Runesmiths, really) engrave Banner Runes on cloth, of all things? Because IIRC some Banners are basically cloaks and / or robes and not flags.
 
kinglugia said:
This reminds me, @soulcake, how did Snorri (and other Runesmiths, really) engrave Banner Runes on cloth, of all things? Because IIRC some Banners are basically cloaks and / or robes and not flags.
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I wouldn't be surprised, if you could weave Runes into the banner. Apart from that: solid ornaments like gold, silver, Gromril or jewels could be woven into the cloth and used as a basis for the Runes.
 
MrHobbit said:
Most of the issue with that is that Hysh is light. And the only mention of ice with Hysh was in the Ice Dragons themselves, as far as I am aware anyways. While Azyr has Iceshard Blizzard as a spell option. To be fair, I do not actually know if Hysh has any elemental options, like Ulgu with mist or Aqshy with fire.

We do not have any proof of Brana using Qhaysh*, and we know that Stormcallers, which are the Brana which would be the ones making ice, use Azyr.

It is hardly accurate to say that a twenty word blurb is equivalent to 320 or so words spread over multiple paragraphs that lines up with the base lore of Warhammer.

From the development side, no. From the viewer side, yes. For instance, when I argue in this Quest it is mostly from memory. If I need quotes to back my position I go to find them. Keeping track of small details like this over periods of time has always been easy, for things that I am interested in anyways.

*Well, the King of the Skies might be able to, using multiple winds together, like what he was doing in the update, as far as I know results in either Dhar or Qhaysh. I'm a bit warry of ascribing the ability to use Qhaysh to non-Elves or Slann though. Though I am certainly not saying he was using Dhar.

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Hrrm, might just be that the King of the Skies can use Hysh and none of the Brana can? I could see that. If that was the case I wonder why the Brana don't have any mages for it then.

I still don't get why Ice Dragons were given Hysh of all things. *grumbles about Games Workshop*
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My read on it is:
-All Brana have some ability to manipulate the Winds. This mainly manifests as their ability to fly and manipulate lowercase wind.
-Some Brana develop the ability to consciously shape the Winds. These allows them, for Azyr, to manipulate significant quantities or to predict the future. These are the ones relevant for the purpose of discussing mages.
-Most Brana have an affinity for Azyr, as they are avians, which Azyr allows you to communicate with, as they fly in the skies where Azyr dominate.
-Ghur is also proximate to the Brana experience, as they are large, powerful beasts that live as apex predators.
-Brana have started picking up Chamon, which is normally alien to their experience, after they started living with dwarves, and have young Brana exposed to large quantities of refined metals.

The Brana lacking other types of mages should then be simply due to not having potential mages be exposed to significant amounts of the Wind thus far. If so, Aqshy shouldn't be too far away - just need some weird young Brana mages who LIKE fire and smoke.

Hysh(Order, Faith, Organization) would be difficult, since its just not the Brana lifestyle, unless some weirdo literally signed up with a dwarf organization.

Shyish, Ghyran and Ulgu I just plain don't see a source for, they don't live in environments which encourage such natures.
kinglugia said:
This reminds me, @soulcake, how did Snorri (and other Runesmiths, really) engrave Banner Runes on cloth, of all things? Because IIRC some Banners are basically cloaks and / or robes and not flags.
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Think we asked before, you just put the rune onto a clasp or other metal component. The actual size of the rune isn't super important.
 
LordEdric said:
He doesn't need time, just pay some elves to do deliveries, wood elves have a weird time thing in their Forest, I think these elves could do it too if they tried
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Wood elves do not exist and won't exist until the aftermath of the War of the Beard when struggling elven colonists abandoned by Ulthuan make their devil's bargain with Athel Loren. And yes I do think of it like that, most fey especially of that forest barely have a claim for being better than Daemons.
 
i forget but are we able to make a book on all of snorri's rune knowledge? not to share, but as a just in case of his death to pass onto one of his graduated apprentices that are masters? or to send to Yorri in case of his own death?
all i remember is that rune masters do not give knowledge to the unworthy and unearned. so what about that who taught him or finished their education?
 
veekie said:
Think we asked before, you just put the rune onto a clasp or other metal component. The actual size of the rune isn't super important.
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It wasn't that I recall. The answer is that Snorri can literally put it on cloth or hide or whathaveyou, which was an art lost after the time of woes. We've put stuff on plates before, but that was because we wanted to make use of Adamant, and other stuff was largely a stylistic choice on Snorri's part.
 
BungieONI said:
It wasn't that I recall. The answer is that Snorri can literally put it on cloth or hide or whathaveyou, which was an art lost after the time of woes. We've put stuff on plates before, but that was because we wanted to make use of Adamant, and other stuff was largely a stylistic choice on Snorri's part.
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Pretty sure that was referenced just this update, actually - Snorri putting the rune of Stacking on bags and the like.
 
[X] [Trial:] (both runes) Splash Dungeon, A trap/riddle filled dungeon, get through it/find a thing without getting wet and get your reward. (More dignified applicants can acquire the runes by adding a trap/riddle to the dungeon)

Think Takeshi's castle just less cruel^^
 
tri2 said:
i forget but are we able to make a book on all of snorri's rune knowledge? not to share, but as a just in case of his death to pass onto one of his graduated apprentices that are masters? or to send to Yorri in case of his own death?
all i remember is that rune masters do not give knowledge to the unworthy and unearned. so what about that who taught him or finished their education?
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Runesmiths rather it be lost than fall into unworthy hands and any static defenses can be eventually overcome by an enemy
 
Have to admit I'm kind of surprised we haven't encountered any umgi at all; you'd think we'd have stumbled over at least one tribe in the past nearly four centuries.

Are they just not around yet?
 
veekie said:
Wrong part of the world. This bit is kind of harsh on them, they won't head this way without greater pressures
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Tbf, they're in the dark lands atm. Just being tribal humans... Also there are humans in the west being tribals. They go to Brettonia when the dark land humans show up... OH, and Cathay and Nehekara humans. Can't forget those rascals.
 
IronFist said:
And they're not writing it down either.
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I don't think there is any viable way Snorri would ever write something done unless it is something so groundbreaking and big that he forces himself to do it out of shame/responsibility. But it would also probably be a last resort sort of thing, given he pushes the stuff he feels should be taught widespread
 
The Sandman said:
Have to admit I'm kind of surprised we haven't encountered any umgi at all; you'd think we'd have stumbled over at least one tribe in the past nearly four centuries.

Are they just not around yet?
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It's several thousand years before humans are 'due' to reach Norsca. I think that at this point they're still busy being Stone Age tribes in equatorial regions.
 
veekie said:
Wrong part of the world. This bit is kind of harsh on them, they won't head this way without greater pressures
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Absolutely yes, and also Dwarves didn't really care about humans until Sigmar saved the High King.
Until they decided to uplift them, the wandering stone age tribes were probably considered a nuisance. To willing to worship to chaos to be something you want around, but still better than Beastmen.
Its unlikely Snorri would think they're worth noting even if they were around.
 
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