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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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@soulcake, a few things:

What's happening with our Hearth Guard champion?

Could we use Otrek favour to ask him to invite some elves over for a visit?

What does Snorri think of the political of the idea of offering sending the Hearthwardens south to act as peacekeepers and mediators at Karak Kadrin?
 
dbRevned said:
if i understand correctly if we accept a request, we say were going to start doing it, so we shouldn't actually accept it until we put the actions to it. (otherwise we get narative punishments for delays, if understand correctly from the example when it happened before)
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This is incorrect to my understanding. That happens when we pick a request and leave it open for more than a turn (as that's what happened the one instance it occurred: as it was taken on turn 6, left for turn 7, and then picked up on turn 8), and all we've done is just put it into our primary requests queue now and could put actions into it, plus its due whenever so there's even less issue. For example, for Difficult Requests, there'd be a later vote to decide what runes we want to put on it and stuff.
 
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I knew I was forgetting something about why I thought roping in the Cult of Valaya for Clerical Aid was so important. I would like to direct everyone's attention to one of the senteces of the Hold Founding action.
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(*New*)[X] Hold Founding: [Cost: 1 action, 1 retainer action] Locked in until end of turn 40. The political and technical finagling required to get an expedition equipped to form a Hold is one that requires a good deal of attention to make sure things get done properly. For the survivors of Dum this is an even greater necessity, as they quite literally suffered a near total collapse of their Guild and Clerical system after the betrayal. Apprentices will need proper Masters and the Dawi of Dum caught up to speed, and finding the right Dwarf for such a task is one of great effort indeed.
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Seems to me like this
soulcake said:
- [ ] Clerical Aid: [Cost: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. Who better for such a thing than the Cult of Valaya? Their expertise and pull will doubtlessly speed things along a good deal.
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Might be useful for a lot more than just narrative warm fuzzies over commjnity effort and everyone chipping in. Dum had their clerical system demolished and spending favor with the Cult is not just a good idea, it is critical if we are actually serious about flexing and getting the survivors of Dum back on their feet quickly.
 
BelligerentGnu said:
What's happening with our Hearth Guard champion?
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No ones really had time to show themselves yet. Soon tho, very soon.
BelligerentGnu said:
Could we use Otrek favour to ask him to invite some elves over for a visit?
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Yall dont even know Eltharin, but okay I can put it in.
BelligerentGnu said:
What does Snorri think of the political of the idea of offering sending the Hearthwardens south to act as peacekeepers and mediators at Karak Kadrin?
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Better, more qualified Dawi are already doing what they can. This isn't saving a group lost in the woods or caught in a blizzard, it's wading into an active and hostile political tumult without invitation. The Hearthguard don't have the level of Renown that would make this sort of idea palatable, let alone acceptable.

FunkyEntropy said:
Might be useful for a lot more than just narrative warm fuzzies over commjnity effort and everyone chipping in. Dum had their clerical system demolished and spending favor with the Cult is not just a good idea, it is critical if we are actually serious about flexing and getting the survivors of Dum back on their feet quickly.
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The Clergy aren't useless here. People will be acting if you prod them or not in this case, just to clear up that assumption.
 
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soulcake said:
Yall dont even know Eltharin, but okay I can put it in.
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*laughs* Yeah, now that you mention it. You're right, no point in putting it in until we got some means of translating.

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Better, more qualified Dawi are already doing what they can. This isn't saving a group lost in the woods or caught in a blizzard, it's wading into an active and hostile political tumult without invitation. The Hearthguard don't have the level of Renown that would make this sort of idea palatable, let alone acceptable.
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*nods* Thought that might be the case, but figured we're far enough away that neutrality might be a selling point.

Also: good grief this vote is close.
 
[X] Plan: Return of the Gift Giver

We are Snorri Klausson. The Gift Giver, The mind behind Kraka Drakks defenses, the smith behind the weapon that killed one of chaos' most powerful champions (Kholek), the saviour of Karag Dum, the Azrilgrommtri and a thousand other titles both large and small.
We will rebuild with our bare hands if we have to. Because we are the Gift Giver.
 
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[X] Plan Build That Hold and Take A Walk

[x] Plan: Team Inspiration
-[X] Render Aid: 1 retainer action
-[X] Hold Founding: 2 apprentice action
--[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
--[X] A Favour from Otrek: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: 3 actions
-[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request:
--[X] Accept
[x] Plan Team Odd Potato
-[X] Odd Places 8/10: 1 action
-[X] Render Aid: 1 retainer action
-[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 apprentice action
--[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
--[X] A Favour from Otrek: 50 Favour from Kraka Drakk
-[X] Durazkul: 1 action
-[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 1 apprentice actions
--[X] Accept
[x] Plan Build That Hold and Poke A Potato
-[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
-[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. This is a great deal of work, one devoted wholly to crafting, ordering and coordinating with the survivors of Dum to properly supply them with the material necessary to found a Hold. While technically less difficult, the sheer scale of material required will be more than enough to make such a thing quite the daunting task indeed. 2 Apprentice Actions. 2 Actions.
--[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. You have some amount of influence on King Otrek. Normally you have little need or desire to ask him for aid, much to his dismay, but here the pull and weight of a King can be of great use. At the very least it will help the man lessen the crushing weight of the debt he and his Clan owe you. Sometimes you wonder if you went overboard. Bah, nonsense! 50 Kraka Drakk Favor
-[X] Durazkul: [Cost: (4 -3) =1 action] Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
-[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] Due whenever.
--[X] Accept
[x] Plan Build That Hold and Rune Metal
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: 8 actions] 2 actions
-[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
-[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. This is a great deal of work, one devoted wholly to crafting, ordering and coordinating with the survivors of Dum to properly supply them with the material necessary to found a Hold. While technically less difficult, the sheer scale of material required will be more than enough to make such a thing quite the daunting task indeed. 2 Apprentice Actions. 1 Actions.
--[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. You have some amount of influence on King Otrek. Normally you have little need or desire to ask him for aid, much to his dismay, but here the pull and weight of a King can be of great use. At the very least it will help the man lessen the crushing weight of the debt he and his Clan owe you. Sometimes you wonder if you went overboard. Bah, nonsense! 50 Kraka Drakk Favor
-[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] Due whenever.
--[X] Accept
 
Adhoc vote count started by soulcake on Dec 3, 2020 at 8:58 PM, finished with 344 posts and 126 votes.
  • [X] Plan Build That Hold and Take A Walk
    -[X] Odd Places 8/10: [Cost: 1 action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness. 1 Action.
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. This is a great deal of work, one devoted wholly to crafting, ordering and coordinating with the survivors of Dum to properly supply them with the material necessary to found a Hold. While technically less difficult, the sheer scale of material required will be more than enough to make such a thing quite the daunting task indeed. 2 Apprentice Actions. 2 Actions.
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. You have some amount of influence on King Otrek. Normally you have little need or desire to ask him for aid, much to his dismay, but here the pull and weight of a King can be of great use. At the very least it will help the man lessen the crushing weight of the debt he and his Clan owe you. Sometimes you wonder if you went overboard. Bah, nonsense! 50 Kraka Drakk Favor
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] Due whenever.
    --[X] Accept
    ... and 18 more.
    [X] Plan: Return of the Gift Giver
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. 3 Actions.
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] 70 Kraka Drakk Favour
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] 2 Apprentice Actions.
    --[X] Accept
    ... and 18 more.
    [X] Plan Build That Hold and Poke A Potato
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. This is a great deal of work, one devoted wholly to crafting, ordering and coordinating with the survivors of Dum to properly supply them with the material necessary to found a Hold. While technically less difficult, the sheer scale of material required will be more than enough to make such a thing quite the daunting task indeed. 2 Apprentice Actions. 2 Actions.
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. You have some amount of influence on King Otrek. Normally you have little need or desire to ask him for aid, much to his dismay, but here the pull and weight of a King can be of great use. At the very least it will help the man lessen the crushing weight of the debt he and his Clan owe you. Sometimes you wonder if you went overboard. Bah, nonsense! 50 Kraka Drakk Favor
    -[X] Durazkul: [Cost: (4 -3) =1 action] Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] Due whenever.
    --[X] Accept
    [X] Plan Build That Hold and Rune Metal
    -[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: 8 actions] 2 actions
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. This is a great deal of work, one devoted wholly to crafting, ordering and coordinating with the survivors of Dum to properly supply them with the material necessary to found a Hold. While technically less difficult, the sheer scale of material required will be more than enough to make such a thing quite the daunting task indeed. 2 Apprentice Actions. 1 Actions.
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. You have some amount of influence on King Otrek. Normally you have little need or desire to ask him for aid, much to his dismay, but here the pull and weight of a King can be of great use. At the very least it will help the man lessen the crushing weight of the debt he and his Clan owe you. Sometimes you wonder if you went overboard. Bah, nonsense! 50 Kraka Drakk Favor
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] Due whenever.
    --[X] Accept
    [x] Plan Santa the Hold Founder
    -[x] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] 3 Snorri Actions, 2 Apprentice actions
    -- [x] A Favour from Otrek: Spend 50 Favour.
    - [x] Render Aid: 1 Retainer Action
    [X] Plan: Gift Giver - Karak crafter, Odd delver, Tuber tester
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. 1 Actions.
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] 60 Kraka Drakk Favour
    --[X] Clerical Aid: [Cost: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya] 10 Cult of Valaya Favour
    -[X] Odd Places 8/10: [Cost: 1 action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness. 1 Action.
    -[X] Durazkul: [Cost: (4 -3) =1 action] Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] 2 Apprentice Actions.
    --[X] Accept
    [X] Plan The Potato Walk
    -[X] Odd Places 8/10: [Cost: 1 action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness. 1 Action.
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: [Cost 6 actions] Productivity Like no Other will proc. This is a great deal of work, one devoted wholly to crafting, ordering and coordinating with the survivors of Dum to properly supply them with the material necessary to found a Hold. While technically less difficult, the sheer scale of material required will be more than enough to make such a thing quite the daunting task indeed. 2 Apprentice Actions. 1 Actions.
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: [Cost: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1 progress. You have some amount of influence on King Otrek. Normally you have little need or desire to ask him for aid, much to his dismay, but here the pull and weight of a King can be of great use. At the very least it will help the man lessen the crushing weight of the debt he and his Clan owe you. Sometimes you wonder if you went overboard. Bah, nonsense! 50 Kraka Drakk Favor
    -[X] Durazkul: [Cost: (4 -3) =1 action] Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions] Due whenever.
    --[X] Accept
    [X] Plan Team Chain
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 apprentice action
    --[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: 50 Favour from Kraka Drakk
    -[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: 8 actions] 2 actions
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 1 apprentice actions
    --[X] Accept
    [X] Plan Team Odd Potato
    -[X] Odd Places 8/10: 1 action
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 apprentice action
    --[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: 50 Favour from Kraka Drakk
    -[X] Durazkul: 1 action
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 1 apprentice actions
    --[X] Accept
    [x] Plan: Return of the Gift Giver - All in edition
    [X] Plan: Team Inspiration
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: 2 apprentice action
    --[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: 10 Favour from Kraka Drakk
    -[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: 3 actions
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: [Cost: 2 apprentice actions]
    --[X] Accept
    [X] Plan Team Firebird
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 apprentice action
    --[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: 50 Favour from Kraka Drakk
    -[X] Firebird's Feather: 2 actions
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 1 apprentice actions
    --[X] Accept
    [X] Plan Team Master Rune
    -[X] Render Aid. 1 Retainer Action.
    -[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 apprentice action
    --[X] Clerical Aid: 10 Favour from the Cult of Valaya
    --[X] A Favour from Otrek: 50 Favour from Kraka Drakk
    -[X] Understand a Master Rune [Waking]: 2 actions
    -[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 1 apprentice actions
    --[X] Accept
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This is one hotly contested vote. Maybe the most contested I've seen it gotten in the history of the quest? Im not sure, either way I'm sorta sitting here waiting for a decent lead to form.
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To advocate for Take a Walk, it involves the apprentices in the supplying and Karstah has been showing that she wants to try and follow Snorri's foot steps in Productivity. This would be the perfect task for her to really try and go for that.
 
Yeah the biggest complaint I have for the gift giver is that it leaves the apprentices out of helping the hold. From a mechanical standpoint it's less overflow, from a narrative I'd like to see them helping with the rest of the hold. Take a walk has them help.
 
[X] Plan Build That Hold and Take A Walk

changing to this, as it has almost as many Snorri actions, but gets the apprentices involved, wheras the other leading vote has +1 snorri action, but doesn't get the apprentices in on things. And I think getting the apprentices involves will be good for them. Give them work with real purpose, helping dwarves get back on their feet seems a great way to teach them the value of helping others.

I can easily see this justified IC as Snorri supplying everything they need and more before the decade is out, and then using the last year or so after he's finished to check out one of the odd locations.
 
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