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Was doing a little bit of math.

So, the front page of SV says there was around 5,000 posts today. I'm not sure what counts as "today", but I assumed the last 24 hours.
In the last 24 hours, this quest has had around 43 pages in this thread. At 25 posts a page, that's a little over 1,000 posts.

Literally 1/5 of the posts for the day was in this thread.

During one of the flare-ups, 16/21 of all unresolved reports across the entire website were in this one thread. This quest is a big deal.
 
[X] DUCK: Help Johann try to raise his new rat-wolf pups. With Wolf, if he's willing.
[X] DUCK: Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help.

I just enjoy spending time with golden punch-master.
 
Personally next turn I really want to use Deceiver on our Skaven friend-hostage and get him really in our debt with lie-truths since we can scam him super hard if we play our cards right.
 
I mean from it looks like it seems like the King was looking at it like a suicide run, which while honorable probably isn't going to motivate a Dwarf who is more focused on keeping his people alive.
Well, specifically what he said was
"He says he bears word," says the Longbeard. "Word from King Belegar, Ruler of Karak Eight Peaks."

King Kazador snorted. "The latest claimant? Is he sending manlings to perform his tour this time, instead of coming in person to ask to be gifted a Throng?"
which, to me, reads less "I'm not going to throw my warriors away on a fool's errand" and more "He calls himself a king but can't even beg properly?"

He likes him enough now, but, ironically, dwarves don't seem very sympathetic to people who've fallen on hard times.

"Friend-as-kings" rather than "friend-as-individuals", perhaps.
 
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Personally next turn I really want to use Deceiver on our Skaven friend-hostage and get him really in our debt with lie-truths since we can scam him super hard if we play our cards right.
Why? He'll be dead in 10 years at best most likely, and Skaven are cowards by nature, and he's all alone, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. The only thing he has left (to use to keep himself alive), is his own kind.
 
which, to me, reads less "I'm not going to throw my warriors away on a fool's errand" and more "He calls himself a king but can't even beg properly?"
Read the entire opening. Azul has so little contact with the outside world that he probably didn't even know anything about Belegar except that he was a claimant to K8P. Karak Azul is literally the last place anyone goes to beg for troops. So he thought it was a sign of desperation, and didn't think too hard on the possible implications of the Ulrican using the Underway to deliver the message. Because that would have bred hope, and at that point hope was far too dangerous.

When the full implications of what was actually going on sank in, he immediately referred to Belegar as "Brother-King". Because this wasn't some short-bearded fool throwing lives away, it was an actual connection back to the outside world for Karak Azul.
 
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So did some fast and dirty math and if Karag Nar is around 14,000 feet then the steel pillar should be in the neighborhood 3,500 tons. Witch while a lot is not a colossal lot when you look at steel and iron mega projects.
 
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Read the entire opening. Azul has so little contact with the outside world that he probably didn't even know anything about Belegar except that he was a claimant to K8P. Karak Azul is literally the last place anyone goes to beg for troops. So he thought it was a sign of desperation, and didn't think too hard on the possible implications of the Ulrican using the Underway to deliver the message. Because that would have bred hope, and at that point hope was far too dangerous.
"...to perform his tour this time..." implies that they'd met before, I believe.

They don't get many visitors, but they're not completely inaccessible, and the doors in question were the ones to the skaven-infested underway.
 
"...to perform his tour this time..." implies that they'd met before, I believe.

They don't get many visitors, but they're not completely inaccessible, and the doors in question were the ones to the skaven-infested underway.
It implies that they'd met previous claimants, who's attempts at reclaiming K8P failed. And now the new one is sending a manling to ask for troops instead of coming himself.
 
Now that we have a proper light source and can change the position of the sun, we just have to create a tower that uses a lens to focus sunlight on our enemies. I don't even care that it'd be redundant or getting someone from another school would be better for creating that type of towers. I just want to flex on the Hysh wizards. :rofl:

btw. @BoneyM are telescopes a thing in this setting? I'm curious if someone has had a closer look at the moon.
 
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So did some fast and dirty math and if Karag Nar is around 14,000 feet then the steel pillar should be in the neighborhood 3,500 tons. Witch while a lot is not a colossal lot when you look at steel and iron mega projects.
But is the Pillar made lighter, or heavier by the screams of the souls of the Damned?


Now that we have a proper light source and can change the position of the sun,
:lol: I invite you to read that back and contemplate the mindbending nature of that fact for a moment.


btw. @BoneyM are telescopes a thing in this setting? I'm curious if someone has had a closer look at the moon.
They definitely are, certainly hand telescopes have been used by dwarf rangers and artillerists in quest.
 
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So did some fast and dirty math and if Karag Nar is around 14,000 feet then the steel pillar should be in the neighborhood 3,500 tons. Witch while a lot is not a colossal lot when you look at steel and iron mega projects.
I'd be interested in seeing your math on this. Since the pillar is hollow (except for the screams of the damned), what did you assume the thickness was?
 
Well, specifically what he said was

which, to me, reads less "I'm not going to throw my warriors away on a fool's errand" and more "He calls himself a king but can't even beg properly?"

He likes him enough now, but, ironically, dwarves don't seem very sympathetic to people who've fallen on hard times.
That's... a way to read it I suppose
But I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying "I want him to beg" and more saying "He's sending some Umgi messenger to demand troops from me isn't he?"
Kazador was basically bitterly writing off Belegar, who mind you he didn't know at all at the time, as some jumped up claimant to the throne who probably wanted him to send his people to some meat grinder for a lost cause

King Kazador snorted. "The latest claimant? Is he sending manlings to perform his tour this time, instead of coming in person to ask to be gifted a Throng?"
Emphasis on these two specific portions
First, it sounds like Kazador has seen the whole song and dance before about needing support to retake 8 peaks, quite a few times actually, maybe there's been overly ambitious and overconfident Dwarves badgering him about it in the past, going on about some glorious reclamation
Point is he's heard the sales pitch before and it didn't work out so well then, so he's really not in the mood to hear it now
Second and related to the first, he's being dismissive because he has already decided in his mind in that one instant that whoever is claiming the throne of 8 peaks is probably some arrogant blowhard whose full of hot air
"ask to be gifted a Throng" he's got the immediate expectation that this so called king is going to demand Kazador's people serve his interests out of some entitled belief that they're just going to help him with no regard for their own well being

Of course Belegar's letter proceeds to blow these expectations out of the water and immediately change Kazador's mind in the span of heart beats, but honestly I can see why he wasn't immediately excited about anything until he realized Belegar's expedition actually had some real teeth to it
And you have to keep in mind he was completely cut off from the outside world and any information of what was going on for quite some time
 
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[X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
 
btw. @BoneyM are telescopes a thing in this setting? I'm curious if someone has had a closer look at the moon.

Yes, they are.

I'd be interested in seeing your math on this. Since the pillar is hollow (except for the screams of the damned), what did you assume the thickness was?

You could probably get close enough for back-of-the-envelope calculations by working on the assumption it's the same amount of steel per unit of measurement as railroad tracks.
 
Hm.

Obviously it depends on how the rest of this turn goes, but barring unexpected crises, I think the four main actions for next turn are more-or-less locked in?

• Learn Queekish - Mandatory or we start losing favor.
• Learn a Stealth Spell - Mandatory or negatrait.
• Make the Tower Work 24/7 - Arguments seem to be getting engagement
• Shrine to the Gambler - Ranald deserves it after this turn.
 
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