HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Can I get any feedback on my Sight write-in? Any at all? We have a game defining tool in the form of our precognition, and you guys aren't voting to use it. Why?
Can I get any feedback on my Sight write-in? Any at all? We have a game defining tool in the form of our precognition, and you guys aren't voting to use it. Why?
Can I get any feedback on my Sight write-in? Any at all? We have a game defining tool in the form of our precognition, and you guys aren't voting to use it. Why?
Because.
More seriously, I see no reason to abandon Bassoon at this juncture.
Because "Ask Future Kakara How To Win" feels super-meta-y and unlikely to gain traction with Poptart. It comes across as basically trying to ask Poptart how to "win the game".Can I get any feedback on my Sight write-in? Any at all? We have a game defining tool in the form of our precognition, and you guys aren't voting to use it. Why?
Can I get any feedback on my Sight write-in? Any at all? We have a game defining tool in the form of our precognition, and you guys aren't voting to use it. Why?
Well, for a start, we can't actually talk to the future - our "meeting" with Future Kakara involved a very careful setup on her end which culminated in speaking into an empty room, IIUC. Anyone in the future not expecting to have a very particular conversation with us is not going to be able to tell us how to do anything, at least not directly.
Pastsight.Wait a moment, If Future Kakara was talking to thin air, how did she know that past Kakara would ask about the crown thing?
I'm actually hoping to ask Future Kakara how to Not Lose - I don't think we can (or on some level should) have the juice to ask her how to win.Because "Ask Future Kakara How To Win" feels super-meta-y and unlikely to gain traction with Poptart. It comes across as basically trying to ask Poptart how to "win the game".
Yep. Which is why it's very frustrating to me that no one, even with approval voting, is voting to use our precognition for that.Step one in winning is to not lose. So that's a good step. It's an important one, even!
Because I don't think it will work, at all, and I prefer the other option set presented.Yep. Which is why it's very frustrating to me that no one, even with approval voting, is voting to use our precognition for that.
Yep. Which is why it's very frustrating to me that no one, even with approval voting, is voting to use our precognition for that.
I have no problem with you trying to game things, and it's fairly pointless to argue what I will let you do. I know my players; I know what y'all are likely to try. If I don't explicitly rule against the possibility of some course of action on metafictional grounds, I am prepared to write it.I'm actually hoping to ask Future Kakara how to Not Lose - I don't think we can (or on some level should) have the juice to ask her how to win.
I think Poptart can limit us well enough without relying on us to hold back. But this is part of the social contract that can only benefit from being made explicit.
@PoptartProdigy?
Could Kakara form a time loop by putting that effort in herself?I have no problem with you trying to game things, and it's fairly pointless to argue what I will let you do. I know my players; I know what y'all are likely to try. If I don't explicitly rule against the possibility of some course of action on metafictional grounds, I am prepared to write it.
What you may all productively debate is whether or not a course of action is likely to result in success. As for contacting Future Kakara in particular, it's quite frankly possible that she no longer exists. Her getting in contact with you was not in her own timeline, after all, so already, things are different. More pointedly, however, from what she said, it took a lot of time and fiddly effort to set up a two-way exchange like that, especially given that, according to Future Kakara, it was a matter of using futuresight to know the best moment and some bizarre, counterfactual pastsight to know what Past Kakara Except Only the Past If Future Kakara Actually Does the Thing Which Is Not How Sight Normally Works would actually ask or respond with. Kakara is uncertain that it's something she can really count on future hers judging a worthy investment of effort. You are, of course, welcome to confirm or deny that possibility using AP.
She hasn't the faintest idea of where to start.Could Kakara form a time loop by putting that effort in herself?
Anywhere really, that's how loops work
When Poptart said it'd cost exactly 1AP to try switching hosts, I took that as metafictional evidence that we can't leave yet. So I've stopped pushing for that.Because I don't think it will work, at all, and I prefer the other option set presented.
Also, I want to stay with Bassoon for multiple reasons and dislike pushing hard for "ditch Bassoon" plans.
What about "near-future Kakaras who've just found things which need fixing, especially if they did so by spending Psi-power in ways we didn't"? Is that a good subject to investigate?What you may all productively debate is whether or not a course of action is likely to result in success. As for contacting Future Kakara in particular, it's quite frankly possible that she no longer exists.
Treating it as a Psychic Talent, obviously. She knows she has across-the-board-spectacular sensory abilities; she should have the suspicion that the rules are a little different for her. (Citation: "unexpectedly good at ki telepathy and learning the Sight", "unprecedented ki sense in multiple ways", and "has psionic mindreading despite Kanassan Sight normally precluding that".)
At this point, I'm not even sure what you're asking.When Poptart said it'd cost exactly 1AP to try switching hosts, I took that as metafictional evidence that we can't leave yet. So I've stopped pushing for that.
What about "near-future Kakaras who've just found things which need fixing, especially if they did so by spending Psi-power in ways we didn't"? Is that a good subject to investigate?
Treating it as a Psychic Talent, obviously. She knows she has across-the-board-spectacular sensory abilities; she should have the suspicion that the rules are a little different for her. (Citation: "unexpectedly good at ki telepathy and learning the Sight", "unprecedented ki sense in multiple ways", and "has psionic mindreading despite Kanassan Sight normally precluding that".)
I'd be genuinely surprised if she doesn't even try that.
OOC, I'm basically asking for assurance that no-one we (would) care about is going to die specifically because we didn't know they were in trouble. Not having the resources to help out is a seperate issue; I just don't want to hear a "quest failed on account of not starting it in time."
I just voted for the "apps but not looking home" option my man.
"Quest failed" and "people we care about died" are not the same thing.OOC, I'm basically asking for assurance that no-one we (would) care about is going to die specifically because we didn't know they were in trouble. Not having the resources to help out is a seperate issue; I just don't want to hear a "quest failed on account of not starting it in time."
I've had some experience with hearing that, and it is not fun.
Ah, I meant 'quest' in the MMO sense, not the "the forum game in which we are participating" sense. My mistake."Quest failed" and "people we care about died" are not the same thing.
...hm. Now that question puts me in a rather difficult spot. To be perfectly honest, there are some things that are on timers, but I don't currently intend to kill anybody if you don't immediately get up and start turning over every rock in order to clear your plate. People Kakara would or does care about dying is the sort of thing that would trigger an involuntary vision, anyway.OOC, I'm basically asking for assurance that no-one we (would) care about is going to die specifically because we didn't know they were in trouble. Not having the resources to help out is a seperate issue; I just don't want to hear a "quest failed on account of not starting it in time."
I've had some experience with hearing that, and it is not fun.