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I left it deliberately ambiguous - part of the point is that it doesn't actually matter precisely what Hijiri did.
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I left it deliberately ambiguous - part of the point is that it doesn't actually matter precisely what Hijiri did.
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No idea if there would be a way to shoehorn in a full day worth of leisure with all the conditions and tasks that exist. Of course, if the convention were to be overlapped with a meeting or destination, a few hours dalliance could wind up as beneficial. Finding cons in our world would not be an issue this week - in Australia. The MOF would evolve to 20 passenger mode?Since we're probably gonna be doing Tokyo soon, this comment has some increased relevance.
And yes, we should eventually go to Comiket. Too bad it happens too late in the year to happen in-quest. Maybe some other con?
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An excellent outing, thanks for the Omake! (A cautionary tale, indeed.) Rain, and after running away.
Nova Prospekt pt. 19
"Haaa..." Sayaka kicks aimlessly at the air, still flopped on her back. "Politics."
"Politics," you agree. "Honestly, I'm not sure if I told you about the specific politics here? Mami was there in Sendai with me, so she knows, and I'm pretty sure I brought it up with Homura at some point, but I don't think I mentioned it to you?"
"Hm?" Sayaka says, blinking at you.
"So, Tokyo is big," you say. "I mean, that's obvious. Bigger than Mitakihara, even though I'm pretty sure we're a newer city... that's besides the point. Anyway. Tokyo doesn't have Mami, which is also obvious, but what it does have is quite a few competing meguca groups. I'm not sure of the specific layout, but they apparently form a coalition, led by a Council."
"Mmm?" Sayaka asks. She motions for you to go on, blue eyes sharp and surprisingly focused.
"There was a girl from Tokyo there at Sendai," you say. "Hamasaki was trying to recruit them for her little war, so they sent a representative, and when Mami, Kirika, and I shut the whole thing down, I spoke to her, asked her to tell the Council about what I was offering. I haven't heard anything substantial back from her since then - apparently because of politics, they can't actually agree even though I'm basically offering free stuff."
"Ah," Sayaka says, sitting up. She props her elbows on her knees and her chin on her hands, looking at you thoughtfully. "Politics. So that's why you're wanting to meet with this Osaki group - because you wanna get a, a beachhead. Right now, they're all arguing with each other, but once you speak to one of them, they'll all be trying to get to you?"
"I sure hope so," you say, nodding in agreement.
Y'know, you shouldn't be surprised, but Sayaka can be surprisingly astute at times.
"Honestly, you should've gotten Madoka and Hitomi in on this," Sayaka muses.
"Um?" You blink at her Sayaka. "What do you mean?"
"Oh, right, you wouldn't've been there," Sayaka says. "You know the Model United Nations thing? We did a junior Model UN last year, the three of us teamed up to represent our class, and we wrecked 'em. Hitomi's absolutely vicious, Madoka's really smart, and both of 'em can talk you into selling your own grandmother. Just in different ways."
"Hah," you say, grinning. "I'm not surprised. How about you?"
"Oh, I was just the bad cop," Sayaka says with an easy grin. "Good cop, bad cop. It worked pretty well!"
"I can imagine," you say, matching her easy grin with one of your own. You blink as your brain jumps a few connections, from how unexpectedly sharp Madoka can be, to a certain Wish, to Homura. "Also, mostly unrelated, I need to remember to praise Homura sometime. Hrm."
"Eh?" Sayaka says. "What, for putting up with you? I guess I can see that..."
"Jerk," you say, giving Sayaka a half-hearted glare. "No, no, just in general. Unrelated thought, anyway."
Sayaka raises an eyebrow at you but just shrugs and sprawls back over on the floor, apparently content to let that lie. And to let herself lie down. You vaguely wish you could lie down and relax, but you need to pay some attention to the terrain, if only to make sure you don't actually take the top off a mountain or something.
Fortunately, it turns out that you don't have to wait much longer before Chouko gets back to you.
"Miss Sabrina? Miss Miki?" her telepathic voice sounds in your head as you watch an oddly-shaped cloud go scudding by.
"Ah! Hello, Miss Tsubaki," you say, smiling and straightening a little and catching Sayaka's eye. She raises an eyebrow at you, shrugging. You can feel someone else on the metaphorical line, someone you don't recognise.
"Miss Sabrina, Miss Miki, is Nakahara Kurenai from the Osaki group in Tokyo," Chouko tells you. "Miss Nakahara, these are Sabrina Vee and her teammate, Miki Sayaka."
"Good afternoon, Miss Vee, Miss Miki, I'm pleased to make your acquaintance," Kurenai says. Her voice is a pleasant, smooth alto, with an easy confidence that makes you think that she would make a good public speaker. Or perhaps she is a practiced public speaker. "You've made quite the stir in a very short period of time."
"A pleasure to speak to you too, Miss Nakahara," you say politely. "And I don't really look for trouble, I must say. Trouble looks for me."
Sayaka gives you a disbelieving look before responding.
"Good afternoon, Miss Nakahara," she says, perfectly formal and polite. "It's good to meet you, even if only by proxy."
"So, to what do I owe the honour?" Kurenai asks. "I've heard of your exploits in Sendai, of course, and I certainly hope that we haven't done anything to deserve such attention."
"I'm here in part because of Sendai, true," you say with a mental smile directed in Chouko's general direction. "But no, nothing of the sort. Miss Tsubaki vouched for you, saying that you were good people, and so..."
You take a breath, and try to project simple conviction into your mental voice. No body language, no facial expression, but...
"I'm here to help," you say. "How much have you heard of what I can do, Miss Nakahara?"
"I understand you can cleanse Soul Gems," Kurenai says. "And that comes well attested at being a true cleansing, as opposed to simply moving Grief to another receptacle?"
"Yep!" you confirm. "I've helped Miss Tsubaki's group already. And I can create what I call Clear Seeds, too - I can simply empty out all the Grief for a conventional Grief Seed. In principle, one would last through heavy usage for literally years, if not decades."
You're being conservative, of course. Don't want to overwhelm her too much.
"I've... heard the rumours," Kurenai says.
"I want to help," you echo your earlier words. "Part of that... I've already given Miss Tsubaki's group a Clear Seed, and I'm sure she can attest to it being effective?"
"I can," Chouko confirms.
"Yeah," you say, and pause, before cautiously continuing. "I met Ueda Noa at Sendai. She informs me she presented my offer to... the Council?"
"She did," Kurenai says, tone even. "It's been the matter of some debate, Miss Vee, how we should go about accepting."
You scowl, eyebrows all but meeting in the middle as you frown. It's an expression Sayaka shares, your friend twitching upright as confusion and annoyance washes over her face.
"I..." What the hell do they mean, how to accept? "I truly do mean it when I say that I want to help, Miss Nakahara. So it doesn't really matter how you accept, as long as you don't use what I offer to hurt other people. Magical girls deserve to live, not just survive and not fight each other just to make it another week. Hell, everyone deserves that, magical girl or not - I just happen to have the power to help magical girls in particular, and I want to help people."
You take a deep breath, reining it in. "To that end, Miss Nakahara, I would like to arrange a meeting in person today, if possible?"
"I... we could certainly make the time for you today, Miss Vee," Kurenai says. "When would be viable? Do you need transportation?"
"In about twenty minutes or so?" you say, glancing ahead through the windshield. You can't see Tokyo yet, or at best, it's that vaguely grey smudge on the horizon. "And no, there's no need, we can make our own way over. Thank you for the offer."
"Then we'll gladly receive you," Kurenai says. "Do you have any particular topics of discussion you'd be interested in, so that we may better prepare?"
"Yes, actually. I want to... well, I'm sure some of this can be done by telepathy as I fly over," you say. "I'd like to get your take on the Council, and how I can help all of you without causing issues. The last thing I want is to kick off a war in one of the world's densest cities... but I'm not going to let politics stop me from helping people."
"I see," Kurenai responds. "I... we are part of the Council, naturally, and I represent our group. I would be glad to give you my impressions, provided it is a personal visit?"
Sayaka catches your eye, suddenly alert. "That's a sign of something," she mutters to you.
[] How do you answer?
- [] Yes, it's just a personal visit to scope things out
- [] No, I'm here to speak officially to the Council
- [] Something else?
[] Also, I really want to meet this magical girl who has a boyfriend
[] Any last questions?
[] What do you want to cover for the meeting?
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)
Well, it's technically Friday, but I'm on schedule, more or less. Aiming to update again on Sunday.
"Politics," you agree. "Honestly, I'm not sure if I told you about the specific politics here? Mami was there in Sendai with me, so she knows, and I'm pretty sure I brought it up with Homura at some point, but I don't think I mentioned it to you?"
"Hm?" Sayaka says, blinking at you.
"So, Tokyo is big," you say. "I mean, that's obvious. Bigger than Mitakihara, even though I'm pretty sure we're a newer city... that's besides the point. Anyway. Tokyo doesn't have Mami, which is also obvious, but what it does have is quite a few competing meguca groups. I'm not sure of the specific layout, but they apparently form a coalition, led by a Council."
"Mmm?" Sayaka asks. She motions for you to go on, blue eyes sharp and surprisingly focused.
"There was a girl from Tokyo there at Sendai," you say. "Hamasaki was trying to recruit them for her little war, so they sent a representative, and when Mami, Kirika, and I shut the whole thing down, I spoke to her, asked her to tell the Council about what I was offering. I haven't heard anything substantial back from her since then - apparently because of politics, they can't actually agree even though I'm basically offering free stuff."
"Ah," Sayaka says, sitting up. She props her elbows on her knees and her chin on her hands, looking at you thoughtfully. "Politics. So that's why you're wanting to meet with this Osaki group - because you wanna get a, a beachhead. Right now, they're all arguing with each other, but once you speak to one of them, they'll all be trying to get to you?"
"I sure hope so," you say, nodding in agreement.
Y'know, you shouldn't be surprised, but Sayaka can be surprisingly astute at times.
"Honestly, you should've gotten Madoka and Hitomi in on this," Sayaka muses.
"Um?" You blink at her Sayaka. "What do you mean?"
"Oh, right, you wouldn't've been there," Sayaka says. "You know the Model United Nations thing? We did a junior Model UN last year, the three of us teamed up to represent our class, and we wrecked 'em. Hitomi's absolutely vicious, Madoka's really smart, and both of 'em can talk you into selling your own grandmother. Just in different ways."
"Hah," you say, grinning. "I'm not surprised. How about you?"
"Oh, I was just the bad cop," Sayaka says with an easy grin. "Good cop, bad cop. It worked pretty well!"
"I can imagine," you say, matching her easy grin with one of your own. You blink as your brain jumps a few connections, from how unexpectedly sharp Madoka can be, to a certain Wish, to Homura. "Also, mostly unrelated, I need to remember to praise Homura sometime. Hrm."
"Eh?" Sayaka says. "What, for putting up with you? I guess I can see that..."
"Jerk," you say, giving Sayaka a half-hearted glare. "No, no, just in general. Unrelated thought, anyway."
Sayaka raises an eyebrow at you but just shrugs and sprawls back over on the floor, apparently content to let that lie. And to let herself lie down. You vaguely wish you could lie down and relax, but you need to pay some attention to the terrain, if only to make sure you don't actually take the top off a mountain or something.
Fortunately, it turns out that you don't have to wait much longer before Chouko gets back to you.
"Miss Sabrina? Miss Miki?" her telepathic voice sounds in your head as you watch an oddly-shaped cloud go scudding by.
"Ah! Hello, Miss Tsubaki," you say, smiling and straightening a little and catching Sayaka's eye. She raises an eyebrow at you, shrugging. You can feel someone else on the metaphorical line, someone you don't recognise.
"Miss Sabrina, Miss Miki, is Nakahara Kurenai from the Osaki group in Tokyo," Chouko tells you. "Miss Nakahara, these are Sabrina Vee and her teammate, Miki Sayaka."
"Good afternoon, Miss Vee, Miss Miki, I'm pleased to make your acquaintance," Kurenai says. Her voice is a pleasant, smooth alto, with an easy confidence that makes you think that she would make a good public speaker. Or perhaps she is a practiced public speaker. "You've made quite the stir in a very short period of time."
"A pleasure to speak to you too, Miss Nakahara," you say politely. "And I don't really look for trouble, I must say. Trouble looks for me."
Sayaka gives you a disbelieving look before responding.
"Good afternoon, Miss Nakahara," she says, perfectly formal and polite. "It's good to meet you, even if only by proxy."
"So, to what do I owe the honour?" Kurenai asks. "I've heard of your exploits in Sendai, of course, and I certainly hope that we haven't done anything to deserve such attention."
"I'm here in part because of Sendai, true," you say with a mental smile directed in Chouko's general direction. "But no, nothing of the sort. Miss Tsubaki vouched for you, saying that you were good people, and so..."
You take a breath, and try to project simple conviction into your mental voice. No body language, no facial expression, but...
"I'm here to help," you say. "How much have you heard of what I can do, Miss Nakahara?"
"I understand you can cleanse Soul Gems," Kurenai says. "And that comes well attested at being a true cleansing, as opposed to simply moving Grief to another receptacle?"
"Yep!" you confirm. "I've helped Miss Tsubaki's group already. And I can create what I call Clear Seeds, too - I can simply empty out all the Grief for a conventional Grief Seed. In principle, one would last through heavy usage for literally years, if not decades."
You're being conservative, of course. Don't want to overwhelm her too much.
"I've... heard the rumours," Kurenai says.
"I want to help," you echo your earlier words. "Part of that... I've already given Miss Tsubaki's group a Clear Seed, and I'm sure she can attest to it being effective?"
"I can," Chouko confirms.
"Yeah," you say, and pause, before cautiously continuing. "I met Ueda Noa at Sendai. She informs me she presented my offer to... the Council?"
"She did," Kurenai says, tone even. "It's been the matter of some debate, Miss Vee, how we should go about accepting."
You scowl, eyebrows all but meeting in the middle as you frown. It's an expression Sayaka shares, your friend twitching upright as confusion and annoyance washes over her face.
"I..." What the hell do they mean, how to accept? "I truly do mean it when I say that I want to help, Miss Nakahara. So it doesn't really matter how you accept, as long as you don't use what I offer to hurt other people. Magical girls deserve to live, not just survive and not fight each other just to make it another week. Hell, everyone deserves that, magical girl or not - I just happen to have the power to help magical girls in particular, and I want to help people."
You take a deep breath, reining it in. "To that end, Miss Nakahara, I would like to arrange a meeting in person today, if possible?"
"I... we could certainly make the time for you today, Miss Vee," Kurenai says. "When would be viable? Do you need transportation?"
"In about twenty minutes or so?" you say, glancing ahead through the windshield. You can't see Tokyo yet, or at best, it's that vaguely grey smudge on the horizon. "And no, there's no need, we can make our own way over. Thank you for the offer."
"Then we'll gladly receive you," Kurenai says. "Do you have any particular topics of discussion you'd be interested in, so that we may better prepare?"
"Yes, actually. I want to... well, I'm sure some of this can be done by telepathy as I fly over," you say. "I'd like to get your take on the Council, and how I can help all of you without causing issues. The last thing I want is to kick off a war in one of the world's densest cities... but I'm not going to let politics stop me from helping people."
"I see," Kurenai responds. "I... we are part of the Council, naturally, and I represent our group. I would be glad to give you my impressions, provided it is a personal visit?"
Sayaka catches your eye, suddenly alert. "That's a sign of something," she mutters to you.
[] How do you answer?
- [] Yes, it's just a personal visit to scope things out
- [] No, I'm here to speak officially to the Council
- [] Something else?
[] Any last questions?
[] What do you want to cover for the meeting?
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)
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Well, it's technically Friday, but I'm on schedule, more or less. Aiming to update again on Sunday.
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- Borneo
Something smells, and there's no fish around me right now.
I dunno if we should be paranoid or not, but her cutting from I to we, what she says next....
Personal gain motif maybe?
Ugh, I hate politics.
I dunno if we should be paranoid or not, but her cutting from I to we, what she says next....
Personal gain motif maybe?
Ugh, I hate politics.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Hmmmmmm. I think we should go along with it being a "personal" visit, if we do go. Kurenai emphasized the distinction, which makes me think part of the agreement in the Council forbids individual groups from making statements for everyone without the Council being convened.
That probably means we won't be able to distribute the Clear Seed today, but that's fine. We'll still be able to (hopefully) make a positive impression with one of the groups in the Council, which gives us a beachhead, and will be able to scout some info for a future political push.
So yeah. Accept the "personal" visit, gather information, write it all out and discuss our next moves with Madoka and Hitomi.
That probably means we won't be able to distribute the Clear Seed today, but that's fine. We'll still be able to (hopefully) make a positive impression with one of the groups in the Council, which gives us a beachhead, and will be able to scout some info for a future political push.
So yeah. Accept the "personal" visit, gather information, write it all out and discuss our next moves with Madoka and Hitomi.
FORTHEYOLOZ
Morgana-sama!!!
- Location
- Omega Hell
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Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Yeah, the emphasis makes it obvious that official visits require the council to be informed or permit it or it being a meeting with the full council.
Everyone, please keep in mind that the Council isn't going to be petty politics and bureaucracy for no reason -- a lot of their rules are going to be in place to prevent wars within the city. A part of that would be restricting who groups can meet with, in order to give a cause for the rest of the council members to unite and smackdown someone who is trying to gather allies from outside the city in a bid for power.
We're going to be dealing with a system that has to deal with not only volatile hunter politics in an area with limited game availability (and hideously dangerous game creating strong environmental pressures), but the fact that a well-informed bad-actor can look to get more prey by starving a rival. The pseudo-cannibalism really adds a whole 'nother level of mistrust and conflict to an environment that's already going to be exceptionally difficult to arrange a lasting peace, especially since by definition a magical girl society is going to be primarily made up of traumatized children and teenagers.
This is going to have frustrations in it, it's going to have stupid rules, rules that slow things down, because those same rules will be the Darwinian result of Kyuubey's system.
Impatience with the system, resulting in blowing up at it and refusing to work with it? That's another part of Kyuubey's system, where the little furry fuck exploits human emotions and the need for communication to keep things going.
[X] No matter what else, remember to be patient with their rules -- they exist to protect them from the Incubator's system.
- Location
- Florida
Oh boy, my favorite thing in the world, politics. Hopefully it won't be too bad...
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
[X] No matter what else, remember to be patient with their rules -- they exist to protect them from the Incubator's system.
[x] How do you answer?
- [x] Yes, it's just a personal visit to scope things out
[x] Also, I really want to meet this magical girl who has a boyfriend
[x] How do you answer?
- [x] Yes, it's just a personal visit to scope things out
[x] Also, I really want to meet this magical girl who has a boyfriend
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- ⇙
There seems to be a word missing in the introduction.
We definetely should go with this being a personal visit, since Kurenai apparently can't talk as freely if we talk to her as an official council representative. If we can get some information from her how things generally work with the council and how they make decisions we hopefully can speed up the process, since they already seem inclined to accept our offer for cleansing, so it should mostly come down to the details of how such an arrangement will work.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Hmm. A few other thoughts.
"Debating how to accept your offer" is very interesting phrasing. For one thing, it makes their eventual acceptance seem almost inevitable - that might be the reality of the situation ("free cleanses forever" is a hell of an offer), or it might be deliberate phrasing on Kurenai's part to try and stay on our good side - "we just need to agree on a few implementation details" is a better look than "we still have no consensus at all about what the hell to do with this offer".
In general, Kurenai's probably going to be angling to use us showing up to her first to solidify her own political situation. We shouldn't take everything she says as gospel truth. Hopefully, her group can come to a similar conclusion compared to Fukushima, and choose to work with us rather than against us.
And speaking of Fukushima, we should probably ask about their perspective on Tokyo politics when we head there tomorrow morning. As one of Japan's premier mercenary groups, I have to imagine they'll have some pertinent info. We can add it to the dossier we hand Madoka and Hitomi.
If we want the established Tokyo players to assist us, we're going to need to convince them that:
• They can more-or-less maintain their positions during the transition to Clear Seeds.
This would probably involve something like agreeing to only provide Clear Seeds in the Greater Tokyo Area to signitaries to the Council - but that could potentially leave a relatively big chunk of girls in the lurch. That said, we could encourage girls in Tokyo that aren't part of the accords to move to Mitakihara... It's not ideal, but it could be workable.
• If they don't agree to accept Clear Seeds, they're gonna be left behind by those that do.
The fact that Sabrina is going around handing Clear Seeds out freely to anybody that asks is gonna be a major argument in favour of accepting. After all, if any magical girl can take a road-trip to Mitakihara and be set for life, then how many girls will remain willing to stay in Tokyo and continue to be forced to hunt to live? Even if Tokyo doesn't accept such girls returning, it'd still be a massive "brain drain" effect.
"Debating how to accept your offer" is very interesting phrasing. For one thing, it makes their eventual acceptance seem almost inevitable - that might be the reality of the situation ("free cleanses forever" is a hell of an offer), or it might be deliberate phrasing on Kurenai's part to try and stay on our good side - "we just need to agree on a few implementation details" is a better look than "we still have no consensus at all about what the hell to do with this offer".
In general, Kurenai's probably going to be angling to use us showing up to her first to solidify her own political situation. We shouldn't take everything she says as gospel truth. Hopefully, her group can come to a similar conclusion compared to Fukushima, and choose to work with us rather than against us.
And speaking of Fukushima, we should probably ask about their perspective on Tokyo politics when we head there tomorrow morning. As one of Japan's premier mercenary groups, I have to imagine they'll have some pertinent info. We can add it to the dossier we hand Madoka and Hitomi.
If we want the established Tokyo players to assist us, we're going to need to convince them that:
• They can more-or-less maintain their positions during the transition to Clear Seeds.
This would probably involve something like agreeing to only provide Clear Seeds in the Greater Tokyo Area to signitaries to the Council - but that could potentially leave a relatively big chunk of girls in the lurch. That said, we could encourage girls in Tokyo that aren't part of the accords to move to Mitakihara... It's not ideal, but it could be workable.
• If they don't agree to accept Clear Seeds, they're gonna be left behind by those that do.
The fact that Sabrina is going around handing Clear Seeds out freely to anybody that asks is gonna be a major argument in favour of accepting. After all, if any magical girl can take a road-trip to Mitakihara and be set for life, then how many girls will remain willing to stay in Tokyo and continue to be forced to hunt to live? Even if Tokyo doesn't accept such girls returning, it'd still be a massive "brain drain" effect.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
My take-away from the update is Sayaka implicitly signalling that the way to address Madoka's need to be relevant is to make her a politician.
Let's do that.
Let's do that.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I mean, yeah. It's a way for Madoka to contribute to the current situation without contracting, so it's absolutely worth doing.
- Location
- Australia
Think you missed a word here
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Muramasa
Best Girl
It's not workable. Leaving girls in the lurch is the antithesis of Sabrina's goals. If this is a thing, we need to grab Madoka, Hitomi and Mami and take a political war hammer to that roadblock.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Keep in mind that one concern will be that if each team has effectively unlimited
Remember, grief seeds aren't only used as sustenance by a magical girl, they also form the unit of currency for the meguca economy.
There could well be an entirely legitimate concern that clear seeds could spark a war in Tokyo, by dramatically shifting the pressures keeping the city more or less peaceful. Which isn't to say that we shouldn't do it, but that we should be aware that breaking systems, especially breaking systems recklessly, can cause collateral chaos, cascading-- uh, resulting in more suffering.
EDIT: To make it clear, I'm totally behind the plan to show up and change things in Tokyo, I just want to try to make sure that we don't go and break things we shouldn't, whether out of misunderstanding or frustration.
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Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
5 cents.
We want allies in the Tokyo council.
While ideally our allies will speak for us, we must also expect that they too will have an agenda of their own and we should strive to discover that its something we're okay with.
Our current in is basically the girl who's a significant other to one of our incidental allies, while this should work for introductions we may want to be forward about looking around for who's amenable and agreeable.
In that light, we also want to listen to the council members concerns that we may consider their fears, and come up with suggestions that'll assuage them.
It is likely that a lasting council will have a strong bureaucracy to remain stable, and ne able to grind down those who wish to upset or overthrow it. Let us not tilt at windmills until we have a full picture.
Also, consideration, is Sayaka our pet Goon for the afternoon?
We want allies in the Tokyo council.
While ideally our allies will speak for us, we must also expect that they too will have an agenda of their own and we should strive to discover that its something we're okay with.
Our current in is basically the girl who's a significant other to one of our incidental allies, while this should work for introductions we may want to be forward about looking around for who's amenable and agreeable.
In that light, we also want to listen to the council members concerns that we may consider their fears, and come up with suggestions that'll assuage them.
It is likely that a lasting council will have a strong bureaucracy to remain stable, and ne able to grind down those who wish to upset or overthrow it. Let us not tilt at windmills until we have a full picture.
Also, consideration, is Sayaka our pet Goon for the afternoon?
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Here's a vote draft. Not X'ing it yet, I'd like to hear some feedback.
[ ] No matter what else, remember to be patient with their rules -- they exist to protect them from the Incubator's system.
-[ ] Carefully observe the political situation, and make mental notes to be written down and shared with our friends later.
[ ] Ask if a "personal" visit would cause issues with an eventual "official" visit.
- [ ] If it won't, agree to make a personal visit.
[ ] Be open and offer to answer any of Kurenai's questions about cleansing, Clear Seeds, or your goals.
-[ ] Offer cleansing, but don't be pushy if Osaka declines.
[ ] Ask about information for future use during "official" visits to the Council.
-[ ] What are the main blocs in the Council?
-[ ] What are the main issues regarding our situation that have been raised in the Council?
--[ ] What are Kurenai's own primary concerns regarding us and our offer? What can we do to address them?
-[ ] Are all magical girl groups in Tokyo part of the Council?
--[ ] What's the established protocol regarding new contractees?
-[ ] Encourage Sayaka to ask questions herself too.
[ ] No matter what else, remember to be patient with their rules -- they exist to protect them from the Incubator's system.
-[ ] Carefully observe the political situation, and make mental notes to be written down and shared with our friends later.
[ ] Ask if a "personal" visit would cause issues with an eventual "official" visit.
- [ ] If it won't, agree to make a personal visit.
[ ] Be open and offer to answer any of Kurenai's questions about cleansing, Clear Seeds, or your goals.
-[ ] Offer cleansing, but don't be pushy if Osaka declines.
[ ] Ask about information for future use during "official" visits to the Council.
-[ ] What are the main blocs in the Council?
-[ ] What are the main issues regarding our situation that have been raised in the Council?
--[ ] What are Kurenai's own primary concerns regarding us and our offer? What can we do to address them?
-[ ] Are all magical girl groups in Tokyo part of the Council?
--[ ] What's the established protocol regarding new contractees?
-[ ] Encourage Sayaka to ask questions herself too.
Muramasa
Best Girl
I don't see why a personal visit would cause issues for the eventual official visit. Presumably there would be no real commitment involved either way. Sabrina can't speak for the Mitakihara group as a whole unless she's talked to Mami and Homura about things too and Kurenai would not be an acting representative of the council in this format. Basically, we're just browsing.
- Location
- USA, Midworld world line
[ ] We want to meet people at Rissho University.
This is also true. While we are wetting our thirst for knowledge on campus, we can also have a fine political primer lecture from miss Kurenai. All we really need is an un-ending supply of leading questions for today. We are conducting an interview, as it were. The dialog indicates that our fame is relatively correct, though we have to check about the details of our public image here. This means that we mostly need to listen. She has some info about us, let's get started with learning about her group.
Even if they 'ask for it,' let's try not to do any bad cop impressions in the moment?
Sayaka is here to become more skilled at political survival. And to notice things we don't. As well as gain some personal perspective. I'm glad she is here.
Let's make sure to have a conditional line of conversation intended in the vote? One that chooses what our "purpose" for the visit is?
Are there any open Quests from the council I wonder? lol!
First, we need to hear a bit more, such as what form of government they are. How does the average citizen fit in? Things like that. It drastically affects our next step.
This is also true. While we are wetting our thirst for knowledge on campus, we can also have a fine political primer lecture from miss Kurenai. All we really need is an un-ending supply of leading questions for today. We are conducting an interview, as it were. The dialog indicates that our fame is relatively correct, though we have to check about the details of our public image here. This means that we mostly need to listen. She has some info about us, let's get started with learning about her group.
Even if they 'ask for it,' let's try not to do any bad cop impressions in the moment?
Sayaka is here to become more skilled at political survival. And to notice things we don't. As well as gain some personal perspective. I'm glad she is here.
Let's make sure to have a conditional line of conversation intended in the vote? One that chooses what our "purpose" for the visit is?
Are there any open Quests from the council I wonder? lol!
First, we need to hear a bit more, such as what form of government they are. How does the average citizen fit in? Things like that. It drastically affects our next step.