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See, I can understand disliking failure but we absolutely did. We should have to deal with our failure not get a redo so we can make actions based on hindsight. Because that's all I can see this being. We can pick ourselves up.
 
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[X] Me!

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Guys, I fully intend to campaign for attempting a communication check at Yammar before Dandeer seals us.

Would you rather do it then, and give up the Senzu, or now, and give up nothing?
 
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Also, um, just saying... but we could explicitly tell Kakara to ignore Yammar if he tries to kill Dandeer while she's using her as a shield... Her being dead would make these things a lot simpler.
 
[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Goku, during his showdown with Freeza.

[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Goku, during his showdown in the cell games.

[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Future Trunks, in his fight against Dabura and Babidi

[X] Me!
 
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Wait, really? I had taken it as a given that every Lord/Lady would have it. It's just such a useful thing to have.
it's also a very difficult technique, and when you can be anywhere in seconds to a couple minutes at most anyway...

[X] Not me.

[X]In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Berra, during his showdown with Vegeta Vegeta the Lord Vegeta

come on, nobody interested in the Berra vs Vegeta instead of the canon battle?
Adhoc vote count started by Pittauro on Sep 11, 2018 at 3:07 PM, finished with 177 posts and 41 votes.
 
I really really don't have the energy to remotely deal with any of this. But if there's a chance to actually continue playing AtE rather than AtE except without every single thing that makes it good and fun and well written thrown away then I'll at least try.

[X] Me!
 
Also, um, just saying... but we could explicitly tell Kakara to ignore Yammar if he tries to kill Dandeer while she's using her as a shield... Her being dead would make these things a lot simpler.
That's Kakara killing Dandeer, just using Yammar to deliver the blow. Do you understand that Kakara would object to that?
 
I really really don't have the energy to remotely deal with any of this. But if there's a chance to actually continue playing AtE rather than AtE except without every single thing that makes it good and fun and well written thrown away then I'll at least try.

[] Me!

It'll still be fun and well written. The author didn't change and we can do fun things in space. I have faith poptart can make it work.
 
That's Kakara killing Dandeer, just using Yammar to deliver the blow. Do you understand that Kakara would object to that?
Sure. I am fully aware that there would be vote weighting against it, and Consequences. I am putting forth the option because I feel that many of the people here would be all for it, and it is a way around our current predicament.
 
Sure. I am fully aware that there would be vote weighting against it, and Consequences. I am putting forth the option because I feel that many of the people here would be all for it, and it is a way around our current predicament.
Assuming she doesn't have a dead-woman switch that makes the contingency on Berra look like a cakewalk.
 
[X] Not me.

[X]In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Berra, during his showdown with Vegeta Vegeta the Lord Vegeta

The trial depends on what you want tosee applied. In Goku vs Frieza one party had the power level advantage so it helps see how skills can help against stronger opponents while in Berra vs Vegeta we see how to use strategy to gain an advantage against enemies on the same tier of power.
 
[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Goku, during his showdown with Freeza.

[X] Not me.

I'd actually prefer Goku vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) but I'm good with killing a Freezer.
 
[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Goku, during his showdown with Freeza.
[X] Not Me.

I feel like we tried our best, but due to a few systemic issues in our inquiry process and this being a geniunely difficult boss fight, we lost.
 
[X] Not me.

Because I want to go to space, and this seems like the quickest way to do that.
 
I don't think she'd go that far. I also don't think she's THAT powerfull.

That...is exactly why we got caught in this mess. We assumed Dandeer wasn't powerful enough to do something...and then she was. Mind you I don't necessarily mean that that thing would happen but you never know.
 
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[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Goku, during his showdown with Freeza.
[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Vegeta, during his final battle with Goku.
 
That...is exactly why we got caught in this mess. We assumed Dandeer wasn't powerful enough to do something...and then she was.
Her greatest feats of magic required lot of prep-time and (i assume) resources.
Why would she prepare an uber spell that would work only when she failed instead of one that would help her NOT fail? That kind of failsafe would be usefull only if others knew about it, MAD style.


(and yes, i know she's stupid, but i don't think she's THAT stupid.)
 
That's Kakara killing Dandeer, just using Yammar to deliver the blow. Do you understand that Kakara would object to that?
Kakara might feel guilty over dandeer dying to that, which is a totally valid argument, but the idea that she did the killing is bogus unless you go full consequentialist, and at that point literally every action you make is killing people for the sake of others, which just isn't how kakara lives.
Non Consequentialist PoV
Consequentialist PoV

The "Not Back Down" option is strictly superior to backing down, in both frameworks, under either of Yammar's choices. The only reason for kakara to flinch away would be guilt, which is fair but I think this kind of payoff is worth that cost, or confidence that she could win another way, which I don't share.

It's not Kakara killing dandeer any more than the dandeer-flail vs Berra was. It's just us not getting pressured out of this prisoner's Dilemma where we have the advantage. Yammar decided to play the stupid game, and if he wants to take the stupid prize then :shrug:.
Sure. I am fully aware that there would be vote weighting against it, and Consequences. I am putting forth the option because I feel that many of the people here would be all for it, and it is a way around our current predicament.
This, too, although I would be willing to go for a communications vote, if one were offered convincingly. The only thing that prevented me from wanting to vote for this last time is my misconceptions about how fast IT is / how good we were at IT relative to the likes of Cell Saga Goku.
 
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[X] Me!
[X] In order to trial the combat system, I want an interlude playing as Goku, during his showdown with Freeza.
 
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...why not Goku vs Vegeta, the final showdown when they died? It WOULD be epic

Oh, it totally would be... buuut PoptartProdigy has intentionally made this setting so that it's conceivably a sequel to Dragon Ball Super. Since the first page of the thread mentions that Goku and Vegeta lived a long time past the events we are shown in canon growing stronger all the while, and since DBS is still ongoing, writing out that fight would basically require that Poptart accurately predict whatever future canon events and powerups they get beyond literal godhood, UI, etc, as well as how those new powers develop in turn. Basically, it'd lock them into a specific path of potentially noncanon events for no real reason other than writing an (admittedly awesome) interlude.
 
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