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[X] Ask Nadia to stay in the conversation, so we look more legit.

[X] Tsubaki:
-[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
-[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit.
-[X] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
-[X] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
-[X] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
--[X] Why her specifically: we don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.

[X] Vote break if Tsubaki conversation calls for it.

[X] Telepathy Niko.
-[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
--[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?

[X] Try and keep Chibrina active when going to sleep.
-[X] Ask Mami if the Witchy sensation keeps her from sleeping. If not, enhanced sleepcuddling.

Crafted a vote. I agree that it's been way too little time for us to telepathy Hijiri, and if we telepathy her now we'll probably just come across as overly controlling. Instead we can telepathy Niko, who should have a good grasp on what Hijiri is thinking right now, and can confirm whether our worries are founded. Just a reminder, Niko has been both lich and witchbombed, so she understands the consequences of a darkened Soul Gem.

Question: Does the enchanted Chibrina expire over time? I faintly remember reading something about that but don't recall where, or even if that memory is accurate. If it does expire, I suppose we'd have to try it with a non-enchanted Chibrina...

Also, on science: It doesn't matter when we do it, so long as we do it. Therefore, doing it right before sleeping is a trap. We do the science and then fall asleep five minutes later or something. Or we could go to sleep immediately, wake up five minutes earlier, and then do the science. No time is wasted. There's absolutely nothing preventing us from doing these things in the morning. And besides, Firn has pretty clearly stated that Science takes up a lot of words, so we generally can't just throw it in as an aside.
 
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You know what we totally should do?

We should hire a third party guca to track Hijiri and look after her, and make sure she doesn't do anything bad.

Then we hire a third third party guca and ask her to stealthily follow them and record them on video.

It'd be like a TV show, but real!

:V

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I feel like I missed some thought process of yours, as I don't know how you arrived at 'we should simply sideline Chibi!Brina" /unless/ you are already taking as granted that we are going to have a talk with Hijiri be part of the rest of the night (since they are mutually exclusive by Firn's preference).

I at least just said I wasn't inclined to sideline Chibi!Science, AND I am not cool with contacting Hijiri tonight.

So many some canon examples from more knowledgeable readers of how likely "full cleanse to dangerous spiral" even is in the timespan at issue? Since thats a point of contention.

If Grief status isn't an issue, I honestly have no idea why people want to rush to re-contact Hijiri /tonight/ when we already seemed to exhaust our options with her for the moment (its why she fled) and none of the suggestions are really new.... other than the time-dilation thing of it being weeks or months for players, which all the debaters Know and are better than to let it influence them this strongly.
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I did assume we were talking with Hijiri, it's the lasting impression I got since we've been kicking back the talk with Hijiri basically since we left Hijiri. I'd fully assumed we'd be talking with Hijiri (or at least with the Pleiades, about Hijiri) tonight at the latest, and it's tonight right now.

I wasn't even considering sidelining Hijiri until some people started arguing for it, and that was just yesterday.


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-[x] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
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LadyLynn said:
-[X] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
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Can we really go for this right now, when we know Riona is supposed to arrive at approximately thursday? (We don't know the exact date, could be tomorrow.)

LadyLynn said:
[X] Telepathy Niko.
-[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
--[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
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I don't think Hijiri would even do this? >_>

I'm more concerned she might keep lashing out and there being no meguca to stop her.

LadyLynn said:
[X] Try and keep Chibrina active when going to sleep.
-[X] Ask Mami if the Witchy sensation keeps her from sleeping. If not, enhanced sleepcuddling.
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>_>
<_<

Let's... not?

LadyLynn said:
Question: Does the enchanted Chibrina expire over time? I faintly remember reading something about that but don't recall where, or even if that memory is accurate. If it does expire, I suppose we'd have to try it with a non-enchanted Chibrina...
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I believe we've observed the magic draining over time (or Firn said so), so it'll run out in time.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on May 6, 2018 at 12:09 AM, finished with 137536 posts and 18 votes.
  • [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Goal: Give Tsubaki a good impression; get her interested in talking again at least, working together being the final goal.
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Show curiosity about Tsubaki, her life as an adult meguca; show interest in her skills and achievements.
    -[X] Once appropriate, talk about Magical Girl problems, your powers, goals and achievements so far.
    --[X] Standard Grief cleansing offer.
    --[X] Talk about the specific problems that could be better helped by an adult that Magical Girls could relate to, and your hopes Tsubaki could help.
    [X] If no more input is needed about Tsubaki, continue SCIENCE! vote in abeyance.
    [X] Ask Nadia to stay in the conversation, so we look more legit.
    [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit.
    -[x] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
    -[x] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
    -[x] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
    --[x] Why her specifically: we don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.
    [X] Vote break if Tsubaki conversation calls for it.
    [X] Telepathy Niko.
    -[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
    --[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
    -[X] Ask when/if she thinks we should contact Hijiri.
    --[X] Does she have any other advice on how to handle Hijiri?
    [X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
    -[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
    --[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.
    [X] After the call to Tsubaki, go to sleep with prime Sabrina while trying to go through the SCIENCE! vote in abeyance with chibi Sabrina.
    -[X] Are we properly rested the next day?
    [x] Tsubaki Mikoto.
    -[x] Goals:
    --[x] Establish a relationship; you can solve her canonical issues, she's probably a responsible adult and you need as many of those as you can find.
    --[x] Investigate to find out how close the situation is to your metaknowledge.
    -[x] Possibly useful particulars:
    --[x] Introduce yourself and Mami.
    --[x] Standard speech: You want to help meguca, you have powers that do it, you understand larger ramifications and are building a network, Nadia mentioned her as being reasonable.
    --[x] Offer to fly over for face-to-face and cleansing.
    ---[x] Use this to feel out their grief seed situation?
    [X] Try willing the enchanted soft rock to
    -[X] Become something else
    -[X] Attract Grief
    [X] Call Tsubaki. Use formal courtesy. Introduce Mami too. References, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Avoid infohazards.
    -[X] Display admiration, ask about her lifestyle
    -[X] Outline interest in trading "consultancy" for cleansing. Emptying her Grief Seed. Dead drop possible.
    -[X] Motives
    --[X] We are a strong group, building safer city, need her experience
    ---[X] Her planning considered invaluable.
    --[X] Upcoming Walpurgisnacht, gathering allies. Describe threat.
    ---[X] Support role - enchant our weapons?
    [x] Tsubaki Mikoto.
    -[x] Introduce self and Mami with Nadia's help.
    -[x] Explain powers and desire to help. Tell her that Nadia can verify that we're legit.
    -[x] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
    -[x] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
    -[x] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to build a network and establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
    --[x] We don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.
    [X] Telepathy Niko.
    -[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
    --[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
    -[X] Ask when/if she thinks we should contact Hijiri.
    [X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
    -[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
    --[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.
    [X] Niko: Ask if there's any news on Hijiri
    -[X] if no:
    --[X] Hijiri: ask if she is safe.
    [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit. Describe and offer clear seed, no strings attached.
    --[X] Note our ability to travel places quickly.
    -[X] Standard offer of assistance in the event of any emergency.
    -[X] She's the only adult magical girl we're aware of at this time, and she may be the only one in Japan. We'd love to pick her brain on every topic imaginable, but we've had another idea: could we interest her in writing a book?
    --[X] Obviously we'd compensate her for it -- we're not short on money. But this could end up saving -- or salvaging -- a lot of lives.
    [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Goal: Give Tsubaki a good impression; get her interested in talking again at least, working together being the final goal.
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Show curiosity about Tsubaki, her life as an adult meguca; show interest in her skills and achievements.
    -[X] Once appropriate, talk about Magical Girl problems, your powers, goals and achievements so far.
    --[X] Standard Grief cleansing offer.
    --[X] Talk about the specific problems that could be better helped by an adult that Magical Girls could relate to, and your hopes Tsubaki could help.
    [X] Break to voting if input needed.
    [X] Call Hijiri.
    -[X] Per vote in abeyance.
    -[X]Addendum: You failed Hijiri pretty hard. You owe her to make that up. If she needs something, you're more than willing to drop it off in a secure location.
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Onmur said:
I did assume we were talking with Hijiri, it's the lasting impression I got since we've been kicking back the talk with Hijiri basically since we left Hijiri. I'd fully assumed we'd be talking with Hijiri (or at least with the Pleiades, about Hijiri) tonight at the latest, and it's tonight right now.

I wasn't even considering sidelining Hijiri until some people started arguing for it, and that was just yesterday.
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I'm concerned about coming across as excessively overbearing/controlling, considering she has issues with exactly that. It hasn't even been 24 hours since we last saw her, has it? Mmhm, I don't fully recall how our last talk went, though, other than that it went poorly. I'll go reread it. Maybe I'm wrong about not contacting her quite yet.
Onmur said:
Can we really go for this right now, when we know Riona is supposed to arrive at approximately thursday? (We don't know the exact date, could be tomorrow.)
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A meetup doesn't have to be very long. Also, we can't stall out everything because Riona might arrive. For all we know it'll take a few days and we'll wind up delaying a whole bunch of things because she might arrive. Also, aren't we like, really fast? If Riona arrives, can't we just... say we're coming back to meet with her? She won't have to wait that long.
Onmur said:
I don't think Hijiri would even do this? >_>

I'm more concerned she might keep lashing out and there being no meguca to stop her.
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I don't know enough Kazumi Magica to really know whether she'll do that, but people in the thread are worried about it. If we're worried about it, so is Sabrina. And while I don't know whether she'd do that, Niko certainly DOES know whether she'd do that. I don't really see any drawback to asking her.
Onmur said:
I believe we've observed the magic draining over time (or Firn said so), so it'll run out in time.
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Got it.

[X] Ask Nadia to stay in the conversation, so we look more legit.

[X] Tsubaki:
-[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
-[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit.
-[X] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
-[X] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
-[X] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
--[X] Why her specifically: we don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.

[X] Vote break if Tsubaki conversation calls for it.

[X] Telepathy Niko.
-[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
--[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?

[X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
-[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
--[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.
 
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[x] LadyLynn

We seem to be thinking along the same lines, and your vote I like.
 
[X] Ask Nadia to stay in the conversation, so we look more legit.

[X] Tsubaki:
-[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
-[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit.
-[X] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
-[X] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
-[X] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
--[X] Why her specifically: we don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.

[X] Vote break if Tsubaki conversation calls for it.

[X] Telepathy Niko.
-[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
--[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
-[X] Ask when/if she thinks we should contact Hijiri.

[X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
-[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
--[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.

Just realized we can just ask Niko whether Hijiri needs to be contacted quickly or given time to calm down.
 
The fundamental nature this vote goes for is "upfront business transaction."

The alternatives give me more of a "Girl Scout needs mentor" pitch.

If our main goal is placing a Clear seed with her, which one is best? Or, what main goal is being pursued?


[X] Try willing the enchanted soft rock to
-[X] Become something else
-[X] Attract Grief

[X] Call Tsubaki. Use formal courtesy. Introduce Mami too. References, with Nadia's help.
-[X] Avoid infohazards.
-[X] Display admiration, ask about her lifestyle
-[X] Outline interest in trading "consultancy" for cleansing. Emptying her Grief Seed. Dead drop possible.
-[X] Motives
--[X] We are a strong group, building safer city, need her experience
---[X] Her planning considered invaluable.
--[X] Upcoming Walpurgisnacht, gathering allies. Describe threat.
---[X] Support role - enchant our weapons?

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[ Call Hijiri. Be a realist, disarm conflict attempts if needed. Big Sis!Brina
-[ Ask how she's doing. Ask to start over with her.
--[ Grief levels?
--[ Anything she wants to talk about?
-[ Offer an update on Anri. She's safe, also detained humanely, and Angry. We did hear her side.
--[ You'd like to talk more on that, if she's willing. Telepathy has No tea, No cake. Visit Mitakihara, on our honor.
-[ Chibi Brina: Try...
--[ Moving in four dimensions. And observing what's out there.
--[ Observe Soul Gem in 4D.
--[ Leaving your range by flight.

Hijiri shouldn't wait. But, it looks like 'we all' say she waits. Posters don't want to engage with the newly homeless runaway girl? If not when she is finding shelter, at least try to call her in the morning. She is probably comparing everything in the world to her parental experience. Niko can tell you how well that went. For Hijiri, we add in the reality-break of clone identity. I expect that "the person who values her" gets all the status. What did Anri have to offer her? Consider what that relationship was like, then use your answer to discover how Sabrina can relate to Hijiri?

Can anyone put forward a coherent plan for Hijiri, on a theory level? Let me see it? I get that we aren't voting this.
 
Onmur said:
Can we really go for this right now, when we know Riona is supposed to arrive at approximately thursday? (We don't know the exact date, could be tomorrow.)
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I'm not willing to put off doing anything outside the city for an indeterminate number of days on the off chance that she might show up at some point. We have way too many interests in other places to do that.

We can travel very quickly, so we don't need to be away from Mitakihara for long. And really, it's not like we'd be instantly aware of it the moment she steps across the city limits anyway. We'll be depending on her to decide to approach us, either way.

If Riona wanted somebody to be here to greet her, then she should have called ahead. :p
 
I'm taking half The Narrator's...

[x] Tsubaki Mikoto.
-[x] Introduce self and Mami with Nadia's help.
-[] Inquire about Tsubaki, show interest in her skills and achievements, and curiosity about her life.
--[] Use this to feel out differences from metaknowledge and urgency of Grief Seed situation, if practical?
-[x] Explain powers and desire to help. Tell her that Nadia can verify that we're legit.
-[x] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
-[x] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
-[x] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to build a network and establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
--[x] We don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.


... and half LadyLynn's votes

[X] Telepathy Niko.
-[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
--[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
-[X] Ask when/if she thinks we should contact Hijiri.

[X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
-[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
--[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.
 
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Filraen said:
-[X] Inquire about Tsubaki, show interest in her skills and achievements, and curiosity about her life.
--[x] Use this to feel out differences from metaknowledge and urgency of Grief Seed situation, if practical?
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The reason I didn't include this is because I thought it might be a little early to start asking personal questions... we're a stranger to her, after all. If she's low on Grief Seeds, she'll just ask to meet up fairly quickly(like Kazumi did), and there won't be an issue. Figuring out differences between metaknowledge and reality doesn't seem like something so high in priority it can't wait until we actually meet up.

EDIT: Now that you've deleted that, isn't your vote basically identical to mine anyway? xP
 
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LadyLynn said:
The reason I didn't include this is because I thought it might be a little early to start asking personal questions... we're a stranger to her, after all. If she's low on Grief Seeds, she'll just ask to meet up fairly quickly(like Kazumi did), and there won't be an issue. Figuring out differences between metaknowledge and reality doesn't seem like something so high in priority it can't wait until we actually meet up.
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Honestly, I included that because Vebyast had something like it in his vote, but I'm pretty iffy on it. A total stranger asking a bunch of probing questions about her situation seems like something that would come off as really suspicious.
 
Onmur said:
>_>
<_<
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I used to visualize this as eyeballs cartoonishly protruding from their sockets in a cone shape. But just now, I've seen these in a new light, and a small edit should illustrate what I see.
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So, they now appear to me to be looking the opposite direction than what I used to see. Though the nose doesn't look right on the second.

[X] Onmur
 
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Onmur said:
I'd fully assumed we'd be talking with Hijiri (or at least with the Pleiades, about Hijiri) tonight at the latest, and it's tonight right now.
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So you simply assumed consensus that we wouldn't possibly put Hijiri off for more than twelve hours....

Onmur said:
Can we really go for this right now, when we know Riona is supposed to arrive at approximately thursday? (We don't know the exact date, could be tomorrow.)
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While simultaneously being willing to put off how many other plots and plans (Tsubaki and more) for multiple days because Riona might show up, in manner that supersonic-jets (or timestop) can't handle, while we are busy?

I don't understand this thought process.

[X] Try willing the enchanted soft rock to
-[X] Become something else
-[X] Attract Grief

[X] Call Tsubaki. Use formal courtesy. Introduce Mami too. References, with Nadia's help.
-[X] Avoid infohazards.
-[X] Display admiration, ask about her lifestyle
-[X] Outline interest in trading "consultancy" for cleansing. Emptying her Grief Seed. Dead drop possible.
-[X] Motives
--[X] We are a strong group, building safer city, need her experience
---[X] Her planning considered invaluable.
--[X] Upcoming Walpurgisnacht, gathering allies. Describe threat.
---[X] Support role - enchant our weapons?

I'd rather try to explore 4d space with Chibi-brina (if only to see what we can sense, let alone test range etc) but this is fine. Asking Niko if she has any worries about Hijiri dooms...that she didn't bring up this morning before we left...seems silly if less so than trying to rush Hijiri directly. (Ffs I don't think even the Police consider someone a runaway serious enough to look into until its been longer than this)
 
Racoras said:
So you simply assumed consensus that we wouldn't possibly put Hijiri off for more than twelve hours....

While simultaneously being willing to put off how many other plots and plans (Tsubaki and more) for multiple days because Riona might show up, in manner that supersonic-jets (or timestop) can't handle, while we are busy?

I don't understand this thought process.
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If you don't understand a thought process you made up, that's your problem.
 
LadyLynn said:
--[X] Why her specifically: we don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.
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Scratch that out.

--[] Why her specifically: She's an actual stable, responsible, adult magical girl.

Just let the implications carry through. She'll understand, I think.
 
Kaizuki said:
Scratch that out.

--[] Why her specifically: She's an actual stable, responsible, adult magical girl.

Just let the implications carry through. She'll understand, I think.
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Hmm... Isn't that a bit too much knowledge of what she's actually like, though? I mean, I guess Nadia could have told us... But Nadia's right there in the telecall, so wouldn't it look weird? Though, then again, Nadia does know we have a precog...

Blerp, can't think about this right now. I'm tired and need to sleep.
 
Mmhm.

[Q] Create another Chibi-Brina. Switch her color scheme. Call her Evil!Brina.

[Q] Evil!Brina
-[Q] Demand Mumihugs! Threaten Chibi!Brina with your tiny hammer.

[Q] Chibi!Brina
-[Q] Shoulder Check Evil!Brina in the face. No one has right to demand Mumihugs! You can only ask politely.

[Q] Sabrina
-[Q] Feign ignorance. Start a betting pool. Offer Mami to place bets.
-–[Q] Actually, place your bet on
—-[] Evil!Brina
—-[] Chibi!Brina
—-[Х] Mami
-[Q] Create more Chibis for a cheering squad.
-[Q]

... In my defense, I should've been sleeping long, long before the idea started coalescing inside of my addled brain.
 
Since this story is, you know... really long and probably won't end any time soon, could there be a short summary added for each "chapter" in the main information post to quickly catch up on the most important things? Or to jog our memories, because it's been so long since some stuff has happened.

Four year anniversary soon. :grin:
 
[x] Onmur
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on May 7, 2018 at 6:38 AM, finished with 137544 posts and 18 votes.
  • [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Goal: Give Tsubaki a good impression; get her interested in talking again at least, working together being the final goal.
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Show curiosity about Tsubaki, her life as an adult meguca; show interest in her skills and achievements.
    -[X] Once appropriate, talk about Magical Girl problems, your powers, goals and achievements so far.
    --[X] Standard Grief cleansing offer.
    --[X] Talk about the specific problems that could be better helped by an adult that Magical Girls could relate to, and your hopes Tsubaki could help.
    [X] If no more input is needed about Tsubaki, continue SCIENCE! vote in abeyance.
    [X] Ask Nadia to stay in the conversation, so we look more legit.
    [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit.
    -[x] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
    -[x] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
    -[x] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
    --[x] Why her specifically: we don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.
    [X] Vote break if Tsubaki conversation calls for it.
    [X] Telepathy Niko.
    -[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
    --[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
    -[X] Ask when/if she thinks we should contact Hijiri.
    --[X] Does she have any other advice on how to handle Hijiri?
    [X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
    -[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
    --[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.
    [X] After the call to Tsubaki, go to sleep with prime Sabrina while trying to go through the SCIENCE! vote in abeyance with chibi Sabrina.
    -[X] Are we properly rested the next day?
    [x] Tsubaki Mikoto.
    -[x] Goals:
    --[x] Establish a relationship; you can solve her canonical issues, she's probably a responsible adult and you need as many of those as you can find.
    --[x] Investigate to find out how close the situation is to your metaknowledge.
    -[x] Possibly useful particulars:
    --[x] Introduce yourself and Mami.
    --[x] Standard speech: You want to help meguca, you have powers that do it, you understand larger ramifications and are building a network, Nadia mentioned her as being reasonable.
    --[x] Offer to fly over for face-to-face and cleansing.
    ---[x] Use this to feel out their grief seed situation?
    [X] Try willing the enchanted soft rock to
    -[X] Become something else
    -[X] Attract Grief
    [X] Call Tsubaki. Use formal courtesy. Introduce Mami too. References, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Avoid infohazards.
    -[X] Display admiration, ask about her lifestyle
    -[X] Outline interest in trading "consultancy" for cleansing. Emptying her Grief Seed. Dead drop possible.
    -[X] Motives
    --[X] We are a strong group, building safer city, need her experience
    ---[X] Her planning considered invaluable.
    --[X] Upcoming Walpurgisnacht, gathering allies. Describe threat.
    ---[X] Support role - enchant our weapons?
    [x] Tsubaki Mikoto.
    -[x] Introduce self and Mami with Nadia's help.
    -[x] Explain powers and desire to help. Tell her that Nadia can verify that we're legit.
    -[x] Ask if there would be a good time to meet in the near future. We can travel there on short notice if need be.
    -[x] Offer of cleansing, refreshing used Grief Seeds, etc., no strings attached.
    -[x] If she's curious why we're interested in her, explain that we're trying to build a network and establish good relations with all the magical girls that we can.
    --[x] We don't know of many magical girls who've survived to adulthood. And there aren't really many adults that magical girls can turn to. We value her wisdom and experience.
    [X] Telepathy Niko.
    -[X] Bring up worries of Hijiri grief spiraling or even deliberately darkening her soul gem under the impression that it would make her stop being a magical girl.
    --[X] Does she think these concerns are well-founded?
    -[X] Ask when/if she thinks we should contact Hijiri.
    [X] Make witchy thing(doesn't really matter what), place it at the edge of our range.
    -[X] Ask Mami how it feels at this distance.
    --[X] Would it interfere with her sleep? We're curious as to whether witchy constructs can stay active while we're asleep, but it's not a particularly big deal, so it's fine if she refuses.
    [X] Niko: Ask if there's any news on Hijiri
    -[X] if no:
    --[X] Hijiri: ask if she is safe.
    [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Explain powers and desire to help. Nadia can verify that we're legit. Describe and offer clear seed, no strings attached.
    --[X] Note our ability to travel places quickly.
    -[X] Standard offer of assistance in the event of any emergency.
    -[X] She's the only adult magical girl we're aware of at this time, and she may be the only one in Japan. We'd love to pick her brain on every topic imaginable, but we've had another idea: could we interest her in writing a book?
    --[X] Obviously we'd compensate her for it -- we're not short on money. But this could end up saving -- or salvaging -- a lot of lives.
    [X] Tsubaki:
    -[X] Goal: Give Tsubaki a good impression; get her interested in talking again at least, working together being the final goal.
    -[X] Introduce yourselves, with Nadia's help.
    -[X] Show curiosity about Tsubaki, her life as an adult meguca; show interest in her skills and achievements.
    -[X] Once appropriate, talk about Magical Girl problems, your powers, goals and achievements so far.
    --[X] Standard Grief cleansing offer.
    --[X] Talk about the specific problems that could be better helped by an adult that Magical Girls could relate to, and your hopes Tsubaki could help.
    [X] Break to voting if input needed.
    [X] Call Hijiri.
    -[X] Per vote in abeyance.
    -[X]Addendum: You failed Hijiri pretty hard. You owe her to make that up. If she needs something, you're more than willing to drop it off in a secure location.
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