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Dragon Ball: After the End

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Gore17 said:
You're assuming that said demonstrated strength equals high willpower. And that "effective against us" equals "strong psychic".
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And you're saying you have some solid proof he isn't? Look... you're right, we don't know how strong his willpower is. But whereas I'd prefer to err on the side of caution, and assume that the enemy might be stronger than he actually is incase it turns out he secretly is... I'm guessing you'd prefer to assume "he is isn't very strong" and that "we can totally take him" so that if it does turn out that he does happen to be strong in the force willpower arena, then... it will be a nice surprise for us?

Also assuming that the seal does rely on power level, like has been recently posited, I have another question for the Plan Jinchuriki people: how do you plan on dealing with the possibility that if we seal him inside of us we may never be able to power down by any significant amount because we don't want to weaken the seal.
 
Gore17 said:
*sighs* People keep going on about "the risks", without actually providing any evidence for it.
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You want to take an extremely powerful Psychic (that is, someone with supernatural powers relating to the mind) who has demonstrated not only obscene strength but sent every other Seer on the planet into a torturous state of pain and horror using abilities that are extremely likely to remain even with "only a mind" and stick it inside our head, where physical strength - our big equaliser/advantage - is rendered moot in comparison to mental strength, AKA the source of his power.

I get that you want to take the risk because you think it's worth it, but I flat out don't believe you can't see how this is a risk.

PoptartProdigy said:
Oh, right.
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Oddball vote weighting pls (note: please don't actually do this)
 
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[X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
-[X][RESOLUTION] Use telepathy to transmit the sensation of the revelation you've just experienced into his head. Maybe that will help to reform him.
--[X][RESOLUTION] See if he is a wish-granting dragon and, if he is, coerce one from him. (x1.25, from, "Ambitious")

The main problem I see with securing his cooperation is that if there was anything which could match a theoretical saiyan for pride, it would (most likely) be a dragon. His reaction upon seeing something that could probably squish him like a bug asking for his surrender was an immediate refusal.
 
Carrnage said:
Can we manifest the spirit bomb in melee? If so would doing that and letting it's "pure of heart" requirement judgement count as it's own write in?
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Well, write-ins are, as discussed, closed. Also, I'm not quite sure how you mean that. Do you mean, "Can we cheat our way around, 'Protector,' by killing him in a particular way?" No. The vote weighting applies to the deliberate choice of killing him. Kakara is well aware of what would happen if she dunked Dazarel's head in a spirit bomb.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Well, write-ins are, as discussed, closed. Also, I'm not quite sure how you mean that. Do you mean, "Can we cheat our way around, 'Protector,' by killing him in a particular way?" No. The vote weighting applies to the deliberate choice of killing him. Kakara is well aware of what would happen if she dunked Dazarel's head in a spirit bomb.
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A literal baptism in the Holy Spirit (bomb)? That purges evil?
 
ElleonXan said:
And you're saying you have some solid proof he isn't? Look... you're right, we don't know how strong his willpower is. But whereas I'd prefer to err on the side of caution, and assume that the enemy might be stronger than he actually is incase it turns out he secretly is... I'm guessing you'd prefer to assume "he is isn't very strong" and that "we can totally take him" so that if it does turn out that he does happen to be strong in the force willpower arena, then... it will be a nice surprise for us?

Also assuming that the seal does rely on power level, like has been recently posited, I have another question for the Plan Jinchuriki people: how do you plan on dealing with the possibility that if we seal him inside of us we may never be able to power down by any significant amount because we don't want to weaken the seal.
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Deathbybunnies said:
You want to take an extremely powerful Psychic (that is, someone with supernatural powers relating to the mind) who has demonstrated not only obscene strength but sent every other Seer on the planet into a torturous state of pain and horror using abilities that are extremely likely to remain even with "only a mind" and stick it inside our head, where physical strength - our big equaliser/advantage - is rendered moot in comparison to mental strength, AKA the source of his power.

I get that you want to take the risk because you think it's worth it, but I flat out don't believe you can't see how this is a risk.
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Because all plans that entail magically sealing him safely will entail sealing his psychic powers. If we can't do so, then we can't actually contain him. And you may ask why we don't just put him in a normal prison, and my response to that is to point the "guards" who were in on an assassination plot for the other prisoners.
uju32 said:
Strip it of it's powers and have it start from scratch?
Regress it to childhood?

:V
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I'm fairly sure this is it's childhood, or at least adolescence. Because have you seen what it calls itself? :V
 
[X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
-[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.
--[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
 
[X][ACTION] Try one last time to talk him down before fighting.

[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
-[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
--[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.

[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
-[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.

[X][RESOLUTION] Tickles!
 
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PoptartProdigy said:
[ ][RESOLUTION] See if he is a wish-granting dragon and, if he is, coerce one from him. (x1.25, from, "Ambitious")
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I thought that vote was made in jest? I must have missed the part where voters were actually serious about it.

[X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
-[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
--[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.
 
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[x][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).

[x][RESOLUTION] Tickles!
 
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[X][ACTION] Try one last time to talk him down before fighting.
[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
-[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
--[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.
 
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[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
 
Gore17 said:
Because all plans that entail magically sealing him safely will entail sealing his psychic powers. If we can't do so, then we can't actually contain him. And you may ask why we don't just put him in a normal prison, and my response to that is to point the "guards" who were in on an assassination plot for the other prisoners.
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Not quite true - a pressure cooker that leaks a bit of menace might have to be tied down in a cell with no loose objects in it and might give the storage guards some nightmares (or worse depending on the leak, but then we'd rotate guards rapidly.) A seal that is not absolutely perfect in every way in Kakara's head means conflict in the place where his powers are most suited. I mean, look at what he did to every other Seer on the planet at once:
PoptartProdigy said:
Around the agony and horror in his head, Carrick Balor manages to avoid biting off his own tongue.

And the shout comes.
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Noooooo thank you.

PoptartProdigy said:
If they wanted me not to take it seriously, they shouldn't have put an, "X," in the brackets.
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A dark spectre rears its ugly green sleeve... I think the joke has run its course.
 
KaintukeeBob said:
A literal baptism in the Holy Spirit (bomb)? That purges evil?
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Thats now how that....no, never mind. *tired sigh*

[X][ACTION] Try one last time to talk him down before fighting.
[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
-[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
--[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.
 
Andres110 said:
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I'm taking this as compliment. Ow the edge indeed. Usually I'm all for hugs and snuggles but sometimes my buttons get pressed and I go full edge lord.


aand the vote restarted. Fruitbaskets!

fruitbaskets, I just noticed that Kill him option is x 0.1! CUUUUUURRRRSSSEEEEE YYYOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!
[X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
[X][RESOLUTION] See if he is a wish-granting dragon and, if he is, coerce one from him. (x1.25, from, "Ambitious")
-[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
 
Parthu said:
fruitbaskets, I just noticed that Kill him option is x 0.1! CUUUUUURRRRSSSEEEEE YYYOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!
[X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
[X][RESOLUTION] See if he is a wish-granting dragon and, if he is, coerce one from him. (x1.25, from, "Ambitious")
-[X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
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That, "Protector," trait, it's murder. :rofl:
 
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