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Dragon Ball: After the End
If we do end up sealing Mister Grumpy Scales into Kakara, we do need to confront the issue of what happens when Kakara dies.
Because if the answer is "he gets out" all we are really doing is passing this problem down a generation or two.
Because if the answer is "he gets out" all we are really doing is passing this problem down a generation or two.
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Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
I'm up for the jinchuuriki route. But we should probably hold off on it until we knock the dragon out.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting while harming him as little as possible.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
- -[X] if we can't reach him with words and he doesn't surrender himself make him go unconscious without harming him, and ask the sorcerers if they can force a masque on him to seal most if not all his power while mantaining his memories and personality. Then hand him to your father so he could be taken to prison for the crimes he committed.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting while harming him as little as possible.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
- -[X] if we can't reach him with words and he doesn't surrender himself make him go unconscious without harming him, and ask the sorcerers if they can force a masque on him to seal most if not all his power while mantaining his memories and personality. Then hand him to your father so he could be taken to prison for the crimes he committed.
AProcrastinator
You can Certainly Try
- Location
- Getting Somewhere
- Pronouns
- She/Hers
People die in dragonball all the time! We need to be prepared!Please. SV is controlling her. We're immortal!
Edit: and not even Goku could fight old age, although I'm sure he made a solid attempt.
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Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
While I can see why there would be people voting to make the takedown as painlessly as possible... I think that, out of safety concerns, we should beat the crap out of Dazarel. That way, if the spirit saiyan runs out before the situation is resolved, the other royals can sort the situation. It is not ideal and of course we will try that it doesn't come to that, but it is a safety measure.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Does Kakara? Did she happen to meet Piccolo or any other Namekians during her family meeting enough to get a gauge on their racial ki signature?
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
Y'all know my opinion on this. Forcing him into direct Willpower clashes, in a way where he can;t use his power in it's most effective way, is the way to go by my reckoning.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
Y'all know my opinion on this. Forcing him into direct Willpower clashes, in a way where he can;t use his power in it's most effective way, is the way to go by my reckoning.
- Location
- Scotland
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.[X] Subdue the dragon utterly. Stun it, physically disable it if you have to. Hold it in place and lock it down with raw power.
--[X] Call on all the sorcerors to Seal away its psychic and ki powers.
---[X] Interrogate it. It calls itself an embodiment of endings, it claims to be a devourer of worlds, and you will know why
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
---[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down. See if sharing the knowledge and sensation that All is One can convince him onto a better path.
----[X] If he refuses, see if you can seal him inside yourself, becoming both prison and warden.
[X] Beat Dazarel like a drum until he is no longer able to pose a credible threat, preferably by beating him into unconsciousness.
- [X] Once that is done, conference with the adults to figure out what to do with him.
-- [X] Bring up the idea of sealing him, either into a human form or into something/someone else.
As for sealing him in us if you can do it in our soul not body it would be fine since our soul remains the same as far as we know when we die(Hell we have proof of that)
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.[X] Subdue the dragon utterly. Stun it, physically disable it if you have to. Hold it in place and lock it down with raw power.
--[X] Call on all the sorcerors to Seal away its psychic and ki powers.
---[X] Interrogate it. It calls itself an embodiment of endings, it claims to be a devourer of worlds, and you will know why
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
---[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down. See if sharing the knowledge and sensation that All is One can convince him onto a better path.
----[X] If he refuses, see if you can seal him inside yourself, becoming both prison and warden.
[X] Beat Dazarel like a drum until he is no longer able to pose a credible threat, preferably by beating him into unconsciousness.
- [X] Once that is done, conference with the adults to figure out what to do with him.
-- [X] Bring up the idea of sealing him, either into a human form or into something/someone else.
As for sealing him in us if you can do it in our soul not body it would be fine since our soul remains the same as far as we know when we die(Hell we have proof of that)
If he can grant wishes my vote would be to wish for him to spend the rest of his life roaming the universe doing good, making him Universe 7's angriest most tsundere superhero.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and find out if he can grant wishes, If he can, wish for him to spend the rest of his life roaming the universe doing good.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
"I-It's not like I wanted to save your life or anything!"
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and find out if he can grant wishes, If he can, wish for him to spend the rest of his life roaming the universe doing good.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
"I-It's not like I wanted to save your life or anything!"
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The way I see PoptartProdigy wasn't talking about potential benefit of the plan, only that kakara will impose more ethical rules on the plan and try to make sure there are as little power abusive actions on her part as possibile. But I could be wrong. Either way I'll refrein from commenting further on it since I already expressed my antipathy for it and how boring a development I find it.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Not in nearly enough detail (although he was standing in the corner). Also, just because she's felt saiyan hybrids before doesn't qualify her to sense all saiyan hybrids, everywhere. To find Namek, she'd need to know it's location or to know a specific Namekian strong enough for her ki sense to pick up at the current level of separation.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
The real difference between us sealing the dragon and Jaffur being sealed is that we think of sealing as a punishment. Dandeer keeps calling it a medical treatment.
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
But we dont have Dragonballs, we don't get the revolving Door.
And I don't think we can stop the almighty power of Yemma's Mahogany Desk!
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
We have a whole dragon right in front of us, all we need to do is hit him hard enough that a wish pops out!
Sealing inside the soul is impossible.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Poptart was only addressing the ethical concerns - sealling a high-level psychic into our mind is an elaborate form of horrible suicide.
Also, who do you think is going to be doing the sealling? We have an expert - and if people were worried about Dandeer when we were organising to defeat the Dragon, and you want her actively fiddling with our head?
Also, who do you think is going to be doing the sealling? We have an expert - and if people were worried about Dandeer when we were organising to defeat the Dragon, and you want her actively fiddling with our head?
All Garenhulder sorcerers (or nearly so), have a `specialization` in sealing. A working like that wouldn`t have to involve Dandeer, and that probably would be something that she would have to respect.
I am a bit worried about the ever present societal power cap problem as in `Would the idea be rejected if we offered, just because it would likely involve us becoming unacceptably powerful?`
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
You know, I have to wonder.
Does Yammar's decision to basically turn him into Ultimate Gorilla Meatshield stem from some sort of self-loathing, based on The Incident? Is he determined to subject himself to the maximum amount of pain and suffering, and likely die, as a form of penance and repentance?
Was every blow he dealt himself as he prepared for this Dragon a blow against his own sins?
Does he hope for the fight to continue long enough to atone in blood and flesh for that darkest stain upon his life?
Does Yammar's decision to basically turn him into Ultimate Gorilla Meatshield stem from some sort of self-loathing, based on The Incident? Is he determined to subject himself to the maximum amount of pain and suffering, and likely die, as a form of penance and repentance?
Was every blow he dealt himself as he prepared for this Dragon a blow against his own sins?
Does he hope for the fight to continue long enough to atone in blood and flesh for that darkest stain upon his life?
AProcrastinator
You can Certainly Try
- Location
- Getting Somewhere
- Pronouns
- She/Hers
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting while harming him as little as possible.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
- -[X] if we can't reach him with words and he doesn't surrender himself make him go unconscious without harming him, and ask the sorcerers if they can force a masque on him to seal most if not all his power while mantaining his memories and personality. Then hand him to your father so he could be taken to prison for the crimes he committed.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
- -[X] if we can't reach him with words and he doesn't surrender himself make him go unconscious without harming him, and ask the sorcerers if they can force a masque on him to seal most if not all his power while mantaining his memories and personality. Then hand him to your father so he could be taken to prison for the crimes he committed.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Dandeer however is the specialist in mind magic, which this definitely is. Hell, even if she decides not to fuck with our head - fat chance- do you really think she won't take a peek and see our conspiracy?
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
- Location
-
Do have a solid point, we can't afford to seal him into our mind...Hmmm.
I've no idea if this is possible, but what if the vast majority of his Ki was sealed into us? Having weakened him as much as we possibly can, The PSI can probably be locked behind a Masque, being an entirely new species will do that to you.
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[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting while harming him as little as possible.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down. See if sharing the knowledge and sensation that All is One can convince him onto a better path.
[X] Defeat him, then show him how All Is One
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down. See if sharing the knowledge and sensation that All is One can convince him onto a better path
--[X] If he refuses, see if you can seal his ki inside yourself, and him inside a Masque (though retaining his mind, just not his body) becoming both prison and warden.
[X] Tickles!
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- Location
- California
I'm pretty sure the other Sorcerer's would notice if she tried something fishy, and that as we are right now if she tried we could casually bitchslap her into next year.
Frankly, something this large probably won't be Dandeer's job, at least alone. It would probably some sort of Grand Working with all the Sorcerer's to Seal the Dragon inside us.