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Again, Dandeer has a murderous rage for Kakara. She would be willing to kill herself to get her. There must be plenty of opportunities for sneakiness if she is invited to cast directly on her while the other sorcerers are distracted and an Eldritch horror with unknown supernatural powers is on the field. Plus, the sorcerers are already doing something important according to a prepared plan.

Don't get the sorcerers involved.
She's already here, and consider this: Dandeer is the Mind Magic expert. The Dragon is using it's mind as a weapon. Who, then, is the one who'll have the best shot at interfering?

It's basically win: either Dandeer manages to fuck with the dragon, or the dragon takes her out, lethally or non-lethally. Best case, both happens.

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to warn the sorcerors of things we've learned.
--[X] To warn them the dragon is "psychic," can read minds, and uses telekinesis to slow enemies.
--[X] To ask them to make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
--[X] Hug Maya.

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
 
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For training, tien style, genkidama and ki concentration, at least to a useful level. Also elite ki sensing. Then research perfect multiform.

After that? There are a few things with oozaru I would like to try (the adaptation training Jaffur suggested and getting our base body used to the increase in pl uniting with an oozaru clone would entail) but there was no consensus.

Oh right, I was just half-remembering what we came up with last time I saw it discussed, which I think was before we knew about Tabe's trick, or how Jaffur's worked (because a 5%+ free increase in effective PL is insane.)
 
On a completely unrelated note, let's try to put one of the Maya theories to rest.

@PoptartProdigy last update when Kakara was passing roll call on who was watching the fight, Maron was mentioned but not Uub. Was he there?I mean, I realize it doesn't really mean anything uf he wasn't because Piccolo wasn't mentioned either but if he was then we can at least rule out her being his reincarnation again.

Though I am starting to think it might be a garenhulder thing in general give the rate the misfits grow...
 
On a completely unrelated note, let's try to put one of the Maya theories to rest.

@PoptartProdigy last update when Kakara was passing roll call on who was watching the fight, Maron was mentioned but not Uub. Was he there?I mean, I realize it doesn't really mean anything uf he wasn't because Piccolo wasn't mentioned either but if he was then we can at least rule out her being his reincarnation again.

Though I am starting to think it might be a garenhulder thing in general give the rate the misfits grow...
He was there, although that doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot of people were there that I didn't mention; it was quite the crowd.
 
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[X] Feel the grass.
No. of Votes: 21

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
No. of Votes: 16

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Ask Maya to tell the Sorcerers what you know.
--[X] Hug her.
No. of Votes: 6

[X] Feel the grass.
-[x] out of line of sight to the dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to tell the Sorcerers what you know.
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to warn the sorcerors of things we've learned.
--[X] To warn them the dragon is "psychic," can read minds, and uses telekinesis to slow enemies.
--[X] To ask them to make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
--[X] Hug Maya.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Ask Maya to tell the Sorcerers what you know.
--[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
--[X] Hug her.
No. of Votes: 2

-[X] Golden Great Ape multiform decoy.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to warn the sorcerors
--[X] To warn them the dragon is "psychic," can read minds, and uses telekinesis to slow enemies.
--[X] To ask them them to make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 45

Well, that escalated quickly.

I'll close this before I go to sleep, I think.
 
45 voters? Nice turnout. Genki Dama Hype is strong, it seems.
 
@PoptartProdigy as things stand right now, how are you going to account for the people voting for the add-ons to the "Feel the grass vote"? Have any of the options reached a threshold where they would be done too?
 
[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.

These guys for got to include the tell Maya to do it part but what ever.
 
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##### NetTally 1.9.8

[X] Feel the grass.
No. of Votes: 21

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
No. of Votes: 16

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Ask Maya to tell the Sorcerers what you know.
--[X] Hug her.
No. of Votes: 6

[X] Feel the grass.
-[x] out of line of sight to the dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to tell the Sorcerers what you know.
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to warn the sorcerors of things we've learned.
--[X] To warn them the dragon is "psychic," can read minds, and uses telekinesis to slow enemies.
--[X] To ask them to make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
--[X] Hug Maya.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Ask Maya to tell the Sorcerers what you know.
--[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
--[X] Hug her.
No. of Votes: 2

-[X] Golden Great Ape multiform decoy.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask Maya to warn the sorcerors
--[X] To warn them the dragon is "psychic," can read minds, and uses telekinesis to slow enemies.
--[X] To ask them them to make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 45

Well, that escalated quickly.

I'll close this before I go to sleep, I think.
Here's to hoping the Spirit Bomb goes horribly wrong and we get the ARMAGEDDON INITIATIVE :D
 
Well, that escalated quickly.

I'll close this before I go to sleep, I think.
I would like to note for future reference that the "THIS IS APPROVAL VOTING" boilerplate probably needs to be said before every major vote. I think a lot of people either forget that, or don't realize what it means, or are so quick to vote for a canned option that they effectively neuter any chance of getting sufficient weight behind a write-in even with approval voting.

I doubt that's your intention, since if it were it would be more easily achieved by abolishing approval voting altogether.
 

Spirit Bomb works a lot better in the movies than in the main series. A lot. Seriously, the track record for the Spirit Bomb is "failed to kill Vegeta, but messed him up", "Did approximately as much damage to Freeza as Krillin", and "Actually managed to kill Kid Buu".

This is not a good track record.

Compare this to the movies where the Spirit Bomb damn near always works.
 
@PoptartProdigy as things stand right now, how are you going to account for the people voting for the add-ons to the "Feel the grass vote"? Have any of the options reached a threshold where they would be done too?
All the options are out there and mutually competitive with each other. In this case I shall probably simply take the top overall option, and in the future-
I would like to note for future reference that the "THIS IS APPROVAL VOTING" boilerplate probably needs to be said before every major vote. I think a lot of people either forget that, or don't realize what it means, or are so quick to vote for a canned option that they effectively neuter any chance of getting sufficient weight behind a write-in even with approval voting.

I doubt that's your intention, since if it were it would be more easily achieved by abolishing approval voting altogether.
-add that to every single vote, actually, since people tend to forget about approval voting in general and I implemented it for a reason.
 
Of course, as everyone knows, the most important part of the Spirit Bomb is humming 'Charging my attack' while you prep it.

Perhaps many of the others who have tried to recreate it thought this was a frivolous note from the absurd-historian and skipped it?
 
[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
 
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