Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
- Location
- USA
I would say now is the perfect time- refits takes processing capacity offline and we want space beyond that to ensure logistics is not stretched and that Nod can't hit a processing plant and put us below the line. We want to do Improved before we do more processing additons otherwise we are just increasing the amount of processing that we have to refit which is quite wasteful in terms of dice. My current thought is 6 dice vein mine, 2 dice on improved (assuming we do graduates with tib/orbital for one action). Then starting Q3 we can put 1 die a turn on refits so that we do not have too much offline but at the same time get the refits rolling and increase our STU production as well. That still leaves plenty of dice each turn to work on mitigation and income
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
- Location
- Belgrade,Serbia
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Blue Zone Apartment Complexes (Phase 9) 82+71+22+72= 247/160 (Phase 10) 87/160 -3 Log +6 High Hous
Communal Housing Experiments 0+91+66+82 = 239/150 +8 Hous Quality: 40 -5 PS
Green Architecture Risk Assessment and Testing 0+46+41 = 87/90 Completes with Non-Canon Omake Assessment: 96 61 50
Edit 2: Tokyo Harbor Reconstruction Autocompletes Sea and Air Defense Network of Japan Restored
Advanced Alloys Development (Tech) 56+69+38 = 163/120
Personal Electric Vehicle Plants 0+29+17+66 = 112/300
Chicago Planned City (Phase 4) 529+40+33 = 602/550 (Phase 5) 52/1100 +2 Hous -4 Lab -2 Log -4 E +280 ProcCap +8 ConG +6 CapG
Isolinear Peripherals Development 0+100+46+66 = 212/160 NAT 100
Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 3) 56+10+32+57+48+112 = 315/450
Intensification of Green Zone Harvesting (Stage 7) 78+16 = 94/100 Completes with Semi-Canon Omake +5 RpT 1 YZ Mit
Red Zone Border Offensives (Stage 2) 101+92+32+94+45+39+190 = 593/250 (Stage 3) 343/250 (Stage 4) 93/250 +30 RpT +25 RpT +6 RZ Mit +4 E
Edit 3: Deep Red Zone Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 1) (New) 0+93+53+48+58+93+34+1+3+53+342 = 778/250 (Stage 2) 528/250 (Stage 3) 278/250 (Stage 4) 28/250 NAT 1 -9? Log +6? E +90 RpT +80? RpT +90? RpT +6? RZ Mit
Tiberium Harvesting Claw Deployment Autocompletes -3 E -2 CapG -1 Lab +5 RpT Improved Vein Mines
GDSS Enterprise Station Bay 248+95+37+70 = 450/400 -1 CapG -10 Scaling Station Cost
Leopard II Factory 152+44+53+74+90 = 413/400 -5 Scaling Station Cost -5 Scaling? Lunar Actions
Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (Orbital) 0+47+85+55+93 = 280/200 +3 to Orbital Dice -4 CapG -3 E
Gene Clinics (New) 0+63+31 = 94/120
Specialist Isolinear Programming Development 0+100+36 = 136/120
Ferro Aluminum Armor Refits 0+27+52+60 = 139/350
Infantry Recon Support Drone Development (Platform) 0+51+35 = 86/40
Railgun Munitions Factories (Phase 1) 0+30+52+60 = 142/200
Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 3) (Updated) (Very High Priority) 0+69+18+60 = 147/180
Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes (Tech) (High Priority) 0+21+35 = 56/125
Recruitment Drives (New) 0+84+25+69+21+112 = 311 DC 200 PASS
Resources: 710+15?+5+30+25+90+80?+90?+5 = 1050? + 245-145 = 100 in reserve (-30 from Reconstruction commissions) (-15 from Bureau of Arcologies) (-15 from Consumer Industrial Development) (100 in Reserve for Banking)(+15? From Taxes)
Political Support: 50-5 = 45
SCIENCE Meter: 4/4
Free Dice: 7
Erewhon Dice: 1
Dice Capacity 54/60
Tiberium Spread
23.42-0.77+0.92 = 23.57 (+0.15) Blue Zone
0.04+0.02 = 0.06 (+0.02?) Cyan Zone
0.81+0.77-0.92+0.15 = 0.81 (+/-0.0) Green Zone
22.57-0.91+0.65-0.02? = 22.29? (-0.28) Yellow Zone (91+1 = 92 points of mitigation)
53.16+0.91-0.80?-0.01? = 53.26 (+0.10?) Red Zone (68+6+6? = 80? points of mitigation)
Current Economic Issues:
Housing: +39-5+1+6+8+2 = +51 (32+5-1-6 = +30 population in low quality housing) (-5 per turn from refugees) (+1 high-quality housing per turn)
Energy: +43-4+4+6?-3-3 = +43? (+4 in reserve)
Logistics: +28-3-2-9? = +14? (-2? from military activity)
Food: +16-3+1 = +14 (+24 backed reserve, +5 unbacked reserve)(-3 per turn from increasing population) (Perennials: +1 on Q1 2062, +1 on Q4 2062, +1 on Q1 2063, +1 on Q4 2063)
Health: +14 (-3? from Wartime Demand) (-10? from refugees)
Capital Goods: +20+2+6-2-1-4 = +21 (+2 per turn from Distributed Industrial Authority) (+167+21 = +188 in reserve)
STUs: +8+3 = 11
Consumer Goods: +89-4+3+3+2+8 = +101 (-5 from demand spike) (-4 per turn from increased population) (+3 per turn from Private Industry) (+3 per turn from sub-departments) (+2 per turn from perennials. -1 per turn Q2 2063, -1 per turn Q1 2064) (Net +4)
Labor: +46+4+2-1-1-4-1 = +45 (+4 per turn from medical care) (+2 per turn from Immigrant qualifications) (-1 per turn from private industry) (-1 per turn from other government) (Net +4)
Tiberium Processing Capacity (2150+5+30+25+90+80?+90?+5 = 2475?/3070+280 = 3350)
Taxation Per Turn: +30+15? = +45?
Space Mining Per Turn: +100
Maintenance Reductions: +50
Green Zone Water: +5
Plan Goals
Provide 120-3-2-8 = 107 Consumer Goods points from the Treasury
Provide Edit 4: 40-2 = 38 Consumer Goods from Agriculture
Increase Income by 1200 Edit 4: -15?-5-30-25-90-80?-90?-5 = 860
Increase Tiberium Processing limit by 1200-280 = 920
Increase population in space by 20k
Provide 40-6-6? = 28? Points of Red Zone Abatement
Provide 30 Resources in grants
Spend at least one die on Steel Talons projects every turn
Projects
Complete Karachi Planned City by end of 2065
Complete Chicago Planned City by end of 2065
Deploy Medium Tactical Plasma Weapons
Depoy Orca Wingman Drones by end of 2065
Deploy Services AEVA
Complete North Boston Phase 5
Develop and deploy Governor-A refit
Develop and deploy Conestoga class
Complete Electric Vehicle Factory by end of 2065
Complete at least 3 Blue Zone Inhibitors by end of 2065
Compete Dairy Ranching Domes Phase 2 by end of 2065
Complete 1 of Nuuk, Reykjavik, Bergen
Complete all phases of Red Zone Border Offensives before 2064
Complete SADN Phase 4
Complete at least 8 Ground Forces Zone Armor factories
Complete all of the following projects:
Advanced ECCM Development, Stealth Disruptor Development,Infantry Recon Support Drone Development, Zrbite Sonic Weapons Development, Ultralight Glide Munitions Development, Transorbital Fighter Development or follow on heavy ship development, Combat Laser Development, Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes, Buckler Shield Development, and Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Development
Complete 2 phases of Reforestation Preparation
Promises to Litvinov:
Do not activate Free Dice (except for Tiberium) unless all Department Dice are active.
Spend no more than two free dice per turn on Military.
Activate Munitions Department
Activate Refit Department
Hand off at least 20 points of Capital Goods to market over course of plan.
Complete Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits before end of plan
Well that is it for the mathpost. I'm going to compare it to other's mathposts:
- @doruma1920 you forgot to add Seo's Dice bonuses for Stations and Development Actions/Technology Working Groups
- @Lightwhispers Seo's bonus applies for every Development action including the Isolienear Peripherals Development and how on Earth did you get 231 on Wadmalaw Phase 3?
- @Strunkriidiisk your mathpost is a post-impressionist/dadaist fusion of a fever dream. I honestly can't tell what even are you calculating. @Ithillid and @Simon_Jester can either of you make sense of this math?
- I forgot to add Seo's bonuses everywhere as well, but I had the option to correct my math before posting.
Alright this is the first draft of my preliminary plan for next turn:
[ ] Plan The Green Line v2.0:
-[ ] Infrastructure (5/5 dice +36 bonus) Edit: 80 Resources:
--[ ] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 7) (Updated) 93/300 20 RpD, Edit: 2 Die = 40 R 33% DC 60
--[ ] Blue Zone Apartment Complexes (Phase 10) 87/160 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 79% DC 22
--[ ] Urban Metros (Phase 4) 0/150 15 RpD, 2 Die = 30 R 81% ADC 32
-[ ] Heavy Industry (5/5 dice +33 bonus) 50? Resources:
--[ ] Advanced Alloys Deployment 0/??? 15? RpD, 2 Die = 30? R ???% ?DC ???
--[ ] Personal Electric Vehicle Plants 112/300 10 Resources per Die, 2 Die = 20 R 45% ADC 54
--[ ] Division of Alternative Energy -1 HI Die
-[ ] Light and Chemical Industry (4/4 dice +28 bonus) 120 Resources:
--[ ] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) (Updated) 65/760 30 RpD, 4 Dice = 120 R
-[ ] Agriculture (4/4 dice +28 bonus) 40 Resources:
--[ ] Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 3) 315/450 10 RpD, 2 Die = 20 R 80% ADC 32
--[ ] Tarberry Development (Tech) 0/40 20 RpD, 1 Die = 20 R 100% DC 1
--[ ] Security Review Agriculture 1 Die
-[ ] Tiberium (7/7 dice + 4 Free Dice +38 bonus) 245 Resources:
--[ ] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 2+3+4?) 5/195/385/570 20 RpD, 6 Dice = 120 R 100%/99%/40% ADC 1/23/54
--[ ] Red Zone Border Offensives (Stage 4+5) 93/250/500 25 RpD, 5 Dice = 125 R 100%/78% ADC 1/41
-[ ] Orbital (6/6 dice + 3 Free Dice + Erewhon Die +30+3 = +33 bonus) 200 Resources:
--[ ] GDSS Columbia (Phase 1) 0/65/200/475 20 RpD, 4 Dice + Erewhon Die = 100 R 100%/100%/12% ADC 1/11/66
--[ ] GDSS Shala (Phase 1) 0/65/200/475 20 RpD, 5 Dice = 100 R 100%/100%/19% ADC 1/4/59
-[ ] Services (4/4 dice +31 bonus) 70 Resources:
--[ ] Gene Clinics 94/120 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 100% DC 1
--[ ] Kamisuwa Optical Laboratories 0/250 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 57% ADC 48
-[ ] Military (8/8 dice +30 bonus) 120? Resources:
--[ ] Infantry Recon Support Drone Deployment 0/??? 10? RpD, 1 Die = 10 R
--[ ] Railgun Munitions Factories (Phase 1) (Very High Priority) 142/200 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 88% DC 13
--[ ] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 3) (Updated) (Very High Priority) 147/180/360/540 20 RpD, 4 Dice = 80 R 100%/99%/65% ADC 1/20/65
--[ ] Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes (Tech) (High Priority) 56/125 20 RpD, 1 Die = 20 R 77% DC 24
--[ ]Security Reviews Military 1 Die
-[ ] Bureaucracy (4/4 dice +28 bonus)
--[ ] Security Review Agriculture 1 Die
--[ ] Security Review Military 2 Die
--[ ] Focus Reallocation
---[ ] Heavy Industry
---[ ] Tiberium
---[ ] Orbital
-[ ] Total Cost: Edit: 80+50?+120+40+245+200+70+120? = 925/1150?
Alright I can hear Simon typing on his keyboard about this one from the future so what does this plan do:
- In Infrastructure I put the Dice onto Urban Metros Phase 4 and Blue Zone Apartment Complexes to get the new general city sectors over and done with in Infrastructure. Also Edit: 2 Die onto Yellow Zone Fortresses because there are only two Phases left. The plan is called The Green Line people I want the border between GDI and NOD fully fortified and the Fortresses get us +4 Housing so we can take in more refugees.
- In Heavy Industry I'm going to start deploying Advanced Alloys while trying to finish off Personal Electrical Vehicle Plants. Also doing my Energy Plan by creating the Division of Alternative Energy.
- My Energy Plan is thus: I'm going to capstone Bergen this year while using Red Zone, Alternative, Satellite and Tarberry Energy to keep us in the black until Bergen is complete so we can research the best Fusion upgrade we currently can. This both gets us better Fusion Power Plants and diversifies our Energy Infrastructure so it's harder to take out and easier to rebuild. I am currently assuming we will get more HI dice in recruitment, but if that doesn't happen I'll have to move that DAE Die onto something else. Probably something civilian and cheap.
- In L&C Industry I'm just going after Bergen. Expect the use of Free Dice here next turn to push it to capstone in Q4 of this year. We need between 25 and 33 Dice to get it completed. I'm aiming for us to be in the region of being able to complete this by Q4 2062 - Q1 2063.
- Agriculture is completing Wadmalaw Kudzu, Developing Tarberries so we can see what sort of Energy for what sort of progress and cost they bring to the table and of course that Security Review which is overdue.
- Tiberium is about doing Vein Mines and finishing off Red Zone Border Offensives since we can't actually do Deep Red Zone Glaciers next turn on accont of having completed every STage that we have so far unlocked.
- Orbital is about surging into existence both Colombia and Shala. We finish them off next turn so both are Phase 3 while also finishing Orbital Cleanup for the Power Satelites.
- Services just finshes off the Gene Clinics and then does the Optical Lab Because it takes more Dice. Not entirely sure this is the order I want to do the optics in, but it's the cheaper order so until we have the confirmation that we have all the Tiberium we have earned this turn I'm sticking to it.
- Military is about getting ZOCOM some more relief while finishing off the high priority actions we started last turn and doing a Security Review.
- Security Reviews in Agriculture and Military and switching a Die from Services to Heavy Industry.
Edit: As noted here I had a Die I wasn't using.
Edit 3: Added the Orange onto the Nat 1.
Edit 4: Fixing a few things I missed as pointed out in this post.
Communal Housing Experiments 0+91+66+82 = 239/150 +8 Hous Quality: 40 -5 PS
Green Architecture Risk Assessment and Testing 0+46+41 = 87/90 Completes with Non-Canon Omake Assessment: 96 61 50
Edit 2: Tokyo Harbor Reconstruction Autocompletes Sea and Air Defense Network of Japan Restored
Advanced Alloys Development (Tech) 56+69+38 = 163/120
Personal Electric Vehicle Plants 0+29+17+66 = 112/300
Chicago Planned City (Phase 4) 529+40+33 = 602/550 (Phase 5) 52/1100 +2 Hous -4 Lab -2 Log -4 E +280 ProcCap +8 ConG +6 CapG
Isolinear Peripherals Development 0+100+46+66 = 212/160 NAT 100
Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 3) 56+10+32+57+48+112 = 315/450
Intensification of Green Zone Harvesting (Stage 7) 78+16 = 94/100 Completes with Semi-Canon Omake +5 RpT 1 YZ Mit
Red Zone Border Offensives (Stage 2) 101+92+32+94+45+39+190 = 593/250 (Stage 3) 343/250 (Stage 4) 93/250 +30 RpT +25 RpT +6 RZ Mit +4 E
Edit 3: Deep Red Zone Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 1) (New) 0+93+53+48+58+93+34+1+3+53+342 = 778/250 (Stage 2) 528/250 (Stage 3) 278/250 (Stage 4) 28/250 NAT 1 -9? Log +6? E +90 RpT +80? RpT +90? RpT +6? RZ Mit
Tiberium Harvesting Claw Deployment Autocompletes -3 E -2 CapG -1 Lab +5 RpT Improved Vein Mines
GDSS Enterprise Station Bay 248+95+37+70 = 450/400 -1 CapG -10 Scaling Station Cost
Leopard II Factory 152+44+53+74+90 = 413/400 -5 Scaling Station Cost -5 Scaling? Lunar Actions
Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (Orbital) 0+47+85+55+93 = 280/200 +3 to Orbital Dice -4 CapG -3 E
Gene Clinics (New) 0+63+31 = 94/120
Specialist Isolinear Programming Development 0+100+36 = 136/120
Ferro Aluminum Armor Refits 0+27+52+60 = 139/350
Infantry Recon Support Drone Development (Platform) 0+51+35 = 86/40
Railgun Munitions Factories (Phase 1) 0+30+52+60 = 142/200
Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 3) (Updated) (Very High Priority) 0+69+18+60 = 147/180
Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes (Tech) (High Priority) 0+21+35 = 56/125
Recruitment Drives (New) 0+84+25+69+21+112 = 311 DC 200 PASS
Resources: 710+15?+5+30+25+90+80?+90?+5 = 1050? + 245-145 = 100 in reserve (-30 from Reconstruction commissions) (-15 from Bureau of Arcologies) (-15 from Consumer Industrial Development) (100 in Reserve for Banking)(+15? From Taxes)
Political Support: 50-5 = 45
SCIENCE Meter: 4/4
Free Dice: 7
Erewhon Dice: 1
Dice Capacity 54/60
Tiberium Spread
23.42-0.77+0.92 = 23.57 (+0.15) Blue Zone
0.04+0.02 = 0.06 (+0.02?) Cyan Zone
0.81+0.77-0.92+0.15 = 0.81 (+/-0.0) Green Zone
22.57-0.91+0.65-0.02? = 22.29? (-0.28) Yellow Zone (91+1 = 92 points of mitigation)
53.16+0.91-0.80?-0.01? = 53.26 (+0.10?) Red Zone (68+6+6? = 80? points of mitigation)
Current Economic Issues:
Housing: +39-5+1+6+8+2 = +51 (32+5-1-6 = +30 population in low quality housing) (-5 per turn from refugees) (+1 high-quality housing per turn)
Energy: +43-4+4+6?-3-3 = +43? (+4 in reserve)
Logistics: +28-3-2-9? = +14? (-2? from military activity)
Food: +16-3+1 = +14 (+24 backed reserve, +5 unbacked reserve)(-3 per turn from increasing population) (Perennials: +1 on Q1 2062, +1 on Q4 2062, +1 on Q1 2063, +1 on Q4 2063)
Health: +14 (-3? from Wartime Demand) (-10? from refugees)
Capital Goods: +20+2+6-2-1-4 = +21 (+2 per turn from Distributed Industrial Authority) (+167+21 = +188 in reserve)
STUs: +8+3 = 11
Consumer Goods: +89-4+3+3+2+8 = +101 (-5 from demand spike) (-4 per turn from increased population) (+3 per turn from Private Industry) (+3 per turn from sub-departments) (+2 per turn from perennials. -1 per turn Q2 2063, -1 per turn Q1 2064) (Net +4)
Labor: +46+4+2-1-1-4-1 = +45 (+4 per turn from medical care) (+2 per turn from Immigrant qualifications) (-1 per turn from private industry) (-1 per turn from other government) (Net +4)
Tiberium Processing Capacity (2150+5+30+25+90+80?+90?+5 = 2475?/3070+280 = 3350)
Taxation Per Turn: +30+15? = +45?
Space Mining Per Turn: +100
Maintenance Reductions: +50
Green Zone Water: +5
Plan Goals
Provide 120-3-2-8 = 107 Consumer Goods points from the Treasury
Provide Edit 4: 40-2 = 38 Consumer Goods from Agriculture
Increase Income by 1200 Edit 4: -15?-5-30-25-90-80?-90?-5 = 860
Increase Tiberium Processing limit by 1200-280 = 920
Increase population in space by 20k
Provide 40-6-6? = 28? Points of Red Zone Abatement
Provide 30 Resources in grants
Spend at least one die on Steel Talons projects every turn
Projects
Complete Karachi Planned City by end of 2065
Complete Chicago Planned City by end of 2065
Deploy Medium Tactical Plasma Weapons
Depoy Orca Wingman Drones by end of 2065
Deploy Services AEVA
Complete North Boston Phase 5
Develop and deploy Governor-A refit
Develop and deploy Conestoga class
Complete Electric Vehicle Factory by end of 2065
Complete at least 3 Blue Zone Inhibitors by end of 2065
Compete Dairy Ranching Domes Phase 2 by end of 2065
Complete 1 of Nuuk, Reykjavik, Bergen
Complete all phases of Red Zone Border Offensives before 2064
Complete SADN Phase 4
Complete at least 8 Ground Forces Zone Armor factories
Complete all of the following projects:
Advanced ECCM Development, Stealth Disruptor Development,
Complete 2 phases of Reforestation Preparation
Promises to Litvinov:
Do not activate Free Dice (except for Tiberium) unless all Department Dice are active.
Spend no more than two free dice per turn on Military.
Activate Munitions Department
Activate Refit Department
Hand off at least 20 points of Capital Goods to market over course of plan.
Complete Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits before end of plan
Well that is it for the mathpost. I'm going to compare it to other's mathposts:
- @doruma1920 you forgot to add Seo's Dice bonuses for Stations and Development Actions/Technology Working Groups
- @Lightwhispers Seo's bonus applies for every Development action including the Isolienear Peripherals Development and how on Earth did you get 231 on Wadmalaw Phase 3?
- @Strunkriidiisk your mathpost is a post-impressionist/dadaist fusion of a fever dream. I honestly can't tell what even are you calculating. @Ithillid and @Simon_Jester can either of you make sense of this math?
- I forgot to add Seo's bonuses everywhere as well, but I had the option to correct my math before posting.
Alright this is the first draft of my preliminary plan for next turn:
[ ] Plan The Green Line v2.0:
-[ ] Infrastructure (5/5 dice +36 bonus) Edit: 80 Resources:
--[ ] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 7) (Updated) 93/300 20 RpD, Edit: 2 Die = 40 R 33% DC 60
--[ ] Blue Zone Apartment Complexes (Phase 10) 87/160 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 79% DC 22
--[ ] Urban Metros (Phase 4) 0/150 15 RpD, 2 Die = 30 R 81% ADC 32
-[ ] Heavy Industry (5/5 dice +33 bonus) 50? Resources:
--[ ] Advanced Alloys Deployment 0/??? 15? RpD, 2 Die = 30? R ???% ?DC ???
--[ ] Personal Electric Vehicle Plants 112/300 10 Resources per Die, 2 Die = 20 R 45% ADC 54
--[ ] Division of Alternative Energy -1 HI Die
-[ ] Light and Chemical Industry (4/4 dice +28 bonus) 120 Resources:
--[ ] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) (Updated) 65/760 30 RpD, 4 Dice = 120 R
-[ ] Agriculture (4/4 dice +28 bonus) 40 Resources:
--[ ] Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 3) 315/450 10 RpD, 2 Die = 20 R 80% ADC 32
--[ ] Tarberry Development (Tech) 0/40 20 RpD, 1 Die = 20 R 100% DC 1
--[ ] Security Review Agriculture 1 Die
-[ ] Tiberium (7/7 dice + 4 Free Dice +38 bonus) 245 Resources:
--[ ] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 2+3+4?) 5/195/385/570 20 RpD, 6 Dice = 120 R 100%/99%/40% ADC 1/23/54
--[ ] Red Zone Border Offensives (Stage 4+5) 93/250/500 25 RpD, 5 Dice = 125 R 100%/78% ADC 1/41
-[ ] Orbital (6/6 dice + 3 Free Dice + Erewhon Die +30+3 = +33 bonus) 200 Resources:
--[ ] GDSS Columbia (Phase 1) 0/65/200/475 20 RpD, 4 Dice + Erewhon Die = 100 R 100%/100%/12% ADC 1/11/66
--[ ] GDSS Shala (Phase 1) 0/65/200/475 20 RpD, 5 Dice = 100 R 100%/100%/19% ADC 1/4/59
-[ ] Services (4/4 dice +31 bonus) 70 Resources:
--[ ] Gene Clinics 94/120 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 100% DC 1
--[ ] Kamisuwa Optical Laboratories 0/250 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 57% ADC 48
-[ ] Military (8/8 dice +30 bonus) 120? Resources:
--[ ] Infantry Recon Support Drone Deployment 0/??? 10? RpD, 1 Die = 10 R
--[ ] Railgun Munitions Factories (Phase 1) (Very High Priority) 142/200 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 88% DC 13
--[ ] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 3) (Updated) (Very High Priority) 147/180/360/540 20 RpD, 4 Dice = 80 R 100%/99%/65% ADC 1/20/65
--[ ] Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes (Tech) (High Priority) 56/125 20 RpD, 1 Die = 20 R 77% DC 24
--[ ]Security Reviews Military 1 Die
-[ ] Bureaucracy (4/4 dice +28 bonus)
--[ ] Security Review Agriculture 1 Die
--[ ] Security Review Military 2 Die
--[ ] Focus Reallocation
---[ ] Heavy Industry
---[ ] Tiberium
---[ ] Orbital
-[ ] Total Cost: Edit: 80+50?+120+40+245+200+70+120? = 925/1150?
Alright I can hear Simon typing on his keyboard about this one from the future so what does this plan do:
- In Infrastructure I put the Dice onto Urban Metros Phase 4 and Blue Zone Apartment Complexes to get the new general city sectors over and done with in Infrastructure. Also Edit: 2 Die onto Yellow Zone Fortresses because there are only two Phases left. The plan is called The Green Line people I want the border between GDI and NOD fully fortified and the Fortresses get us +4 Housing so we can take in more refugees.
- In Heavy Industry I'm going to start deploying Advanced Alloys while trying to finish off Personal Electrical Vehicle Plants. Also doing my Energy Plan by creating the Division of Alternative Energy.
- My Energy Plan is thus: I'm going to capstone Bergen this year while using Red Zone, Alternative, Satellite and Tarberry Energy to keep us in the black until Bergen is complete so we can research the best Fusion upgrade we currently can. This both gets us better Fusion Power Plants and diversifies our Energy Infrastructure so it's harder to take out and easier to rebuild. I am currently assuming we will get more HI dice in recruitment, but if that doesn't happen I'll have to move that DAE Die onto something else. Probably something civilian and cheap.
- In L&C Industry I'm just going after Bergen. Expect the use of Free Dice here next turn to push it to capstone in Q4 of this year. We need between 25 and 33 Dice to get it completed. I'm aiming for us to be in the region of being able to complete this by Q4 2062 - Q1 2063.
- Agriculture is completing Wadmalaw Kudzu, Developing Tarberries so we can see what sort of Energy for what sort of progress and cost they bring to the table and of course that Security Review which is overdue.
- Tiberium is about doing Vein Mines and finishing off Red Zone Border Offensives since we can't actually do Deep Red Zone Glaciers next turn on accont of having completed every STage that we have so far unlocked.
- Orbital is about surging into existence both Colombia and Shala. We finish them off next turn so both are Phase 3 while also finishing Orbital Cleanup for the Power Satelites.
- Services just finshes off the Gene Clinics and then does the Optical Lab Because it takes more Dice. Not entirely sure this is the order I want to do the optics in, but it's the cheaper order so until we have the confirmation that we have all the Tiberium we have earned this turn I'm sticking to it.
- Military is about getting ZOCOM some more relief while finishing off the high priority actions we started last turn and doing a Security Review.
- Security Reviews in Agriculture and Military and switching a Die from Services to Heavy Industry.
Edit: As noted here I had a Die I wasn't using.
Edit 3: Added the Orange onto the Nat 1.
Edit 4: Fixing a few things I missed as pointed out in this post.
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- Location
- MSC
Most plans want to reallocate Service dice in HI. Not against it. But if we get HI specialist from recruitment, should we reallocate it anyway, or keep it in Services?
- Location
- USA
Service is the category we idle dice in the most often and tends to be the less pressing where HI tends to compete for free dice so making that shift is a fairly easy call. Even if we add a die from recruit we still would want to shift (and it just lets us do the energy department)
Feeding our spaceborne population won't be a problem for a very long time. A single Union or Leo launch can carry a year's rations for 400 people, and that's with rounding off an astronaut's yearly food budget to 25% more than NASA uses right now because we have fusion and can afford the luxuries of a little extra mass. If you go back to NASA efficiencies then it's more like 500 people for a year.
And we launch multiple fusion rockets every single day. Just some very ballpark math says that one single rocket dedicated to a food run every few days can sustain up to 100,000 people on orbit, and we're presumably laying in stockpiles pretty deep at all our space bases with all our spare launch capacity, not relying on JIT deliveries of MREs to the Moon or whatever. If we send up one food rocket per day then we can get close to half a million people reliably fed from Earth. On one rocket dedicated out of the schedule.
Shala is an important research project if we ever want millions of people in space, that's where shipping food up the well starts to actually cut into the launch budget significantly. But I think habitation experiments on Columbia are far and away the higher priority because we have people living in Moon barracks right now while food supply is a purely hypothetical problem for like 10 years in the future.
And we launch multiple fusion rockets every single day. Just some very ballpark math says that one single rocket dedicated to a food run every few days can sustain up to 100,000 people on orbit, and we're presumably laying in stockpiles pretty deep at all our space bases with all our spare launch capacity, not relying on JIT deliveries of MREs to the Moon or whatever. If we send up one food rocket per day then we can get close to half a million people reliably fed from Earth. On one rocket dedicated out of the schedule.
Shala is an important research project if we ever want millions of people in space, that's where shipping food up the well starts to actually cut into the launch budget significantly. But I think habitation experiments on Columbia are far and away the higher priority because we have people living in Moon barracks right now while food supply is a purely hypothetical problem for like 10 years in the future.
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Given that the first phase is down to 60 it is fairly easy to do both projects even if bias towards Columbia (for example a 4-2 split). Get some of Shala online so we can figure out the logistics of food in space with actual examples.
If the Advanced Alloys we just researched provide a discount to space stations, then obviously we shouldn't work on both in parallel until we've gotten as much alloy rollout done as we can. We'll find out next turn I guess, and waiting on the alloys for Columbia would take too long we just need to bite the bullet there. But if we can bake more discounts into Shala by focusing Columbia first and working on the alloys in the background then there's no reason to start right away.
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Oh yeah if that is a discount like station bay is then waiting if we can roll it out in one turn would be a good idea, there are other projects we can work on in space as prep. Depends on if it discounts, how much and how much progress the project takes. Frustrating in part because that does change a lot of planning depending on the nature of the deployment action.
Personally I kinda hate it when plans are already 95% set before the results of the current turn are up, much less the next turn's post. So if the table gets flipped in Q2 that's fine by me honestly.
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With that said, DAE might not be a good idea right now. Especially if Alloys deployment is a big project.
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It's called "I was in a rush because I had to leave," now leave me alone.
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Recruit action is going to have some impacts- outside of graduates the other options are mainly unknown (we might have the +5 HI option again). I am eagerly awaiting the results.
One possible path is to pick additional graduates and take a HI die and then turn around and use it for DAE so net our HI dice remain the same (and then we shift the service die to HI die because we can always use more)
That bonus has been in place for a long time.
So, no, they are not down from 80 to 60.
Essentially, treat the base as if it was 85, now down to 70, and then after the value for a phase is calculated, subtract 5.
Correct, and I think I had to make a change to my spreadsheet and didn't correct the line of how many dice were going to the project.
Fixed both, thanks.
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Plan Assumptions: Graduates- Tib and Orbital are taken
865/975
[] Plan Space without Stations
Infra 5/5 90R +36
-[] Blue Zone Apartment Complexes (Phase 10) 87/160 1 die 10R 79%
-[] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 2) 22/250 2 dice 50R 18%
-[] Urban Metros (Phase 4) 0/150 2 dice 30R 81%
HI 4/4 120R +33
-[] Advanced Alloys Deployment 0/? 4 dice 120R (30R per dice placeholder)
LCI 4/4 90R +28
-[] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) (Updated) 65/760 1 die 30R 0%
-[] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 0/300 3 dice 60R 17%
Agri 4/4 40R +28
-[] Security Review 1 Agri die
-[] Vertical Farming Projects (Stage 3) (Updated) 74/240 2 dice 30R 56%
-[] Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 3) 315/450 1 die 10R 9%
Tiberium 8/8+1 free 175R +36 (-2 1/8)
-[] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 2+3+4?) 5/570 6 dice 120R 34%
-[] Intensification of Green Zone Harvesting (Stage 8) 0/100 1 die 15R 52%
-[] Improved Hewlett Gardener Process Development 0/160 2 dice 40R 74%
Orbital 7/7+4 free 110R +31 (-2 1/8)
-[] Gravitic Shipyard 0/450 5 dice 100R 46%
-[] Orbital Cleanup (Stage 11+12) 32/170 2 dice 20R 81%
-[] Conestoga Class Development 0/60 1 die 30R 92%
-[] Lunar Heavy Metals Mines (Phase 4) 25/345 3 dice 60R 11%
Services 5/5 70R +31
-[] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment 0/200 3 dice +1 service 60R 88%
-[] Gene Clinics 94/120 1 die 10R 100%
Military 8/8 +2 Free 170R +30
-[] Security Review 1 Mil die
-[] Transorbital Fighter Development (New) 0/60 1 die 20R 91%
-[] Railgun Munitions Factories (Phase 1) 142/200 1 die 10R 88%
-[] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 3+4) 147/360 3 dice 60R 80%
-[] GD-3 Rifle Development 0/30 1 die 10R 100%
-[] Island Class Assault Ship Deployment 0/180 2 dice 50R 47%
-[] Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes 51/125 1 die 20R 77%
Bureau 4/4 +28 0R
-[] Security Review (Agriculture) 1 die + 1 Agri 94%
-[] Security Review (Mil) 1 die + 1 Mil 94%
-[] 1 die ?
-[] Focus Reallocation (Tib, Orb, HI most likely) 1 die
Free 7/7
2 Mil, 1 tib, 4 orb
So some early thoughts on a non station plan- please not this all depends on what advanced alloy deployment turns out to be- if it 1) reduces station progress cost and 2) can be done in a single turn I would do this which is a lot of clearing out other space projects in prep for station push in Q3. If alloy does not meet the above I would probably go all in on Columbia if 2 does not apply and if 1 does not apply a 7/4 split of Columbia Shala which should see Phases 1 to 3 of Columbia done and 1 and 2 of Shala done (possibly Shala 3 as well)
Mil- Security review because it has been a while, transorbital has been pinged as important so getting this done, railgun munitions is following up to get 1st phase out. GF Armor is getting 3 dice to try and squeeze 2 phases out. Meanwhile GD-3 rifle for a better weapon for our troops including the ground armor. Island Class Assault ship in prep for Karachi and since those take time to deploy. Ideally keeping 2 dice to work through naval deployments. And last die to try and finish the steel talon project
865/975
[] Plan Space without Stations
Infra 5/5 90R +36
-[] Blue Zone Apartment Complexes (Phase 10) 87/160 1 die 10R 79%
-[] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 2) 22/250 2 dice 50R 18%
-[] Urban Metros (Phase 4) 0/150 2 dice 30R 81%
HI 4/4 120R +33
-[] Advanced Alloys Deployment 0/? 4 dice 120R (30R per dice placeholder)
LCI 4/4 90R +28
-[] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) (Updated) 65/760 1 die 30R 0%
-[] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 0/300 3 dice 60R 17%
Agri 4/4 40R +28
-[] Security Review 1 Agri die
-[] Vertical Farming Projects (Stage 3) (Updated) 74/240 2 dice 30R 56%
-[] Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 3) 315/450 1 die 10R 9%
Tiberium 8/8+1 free 175R +36 (-2 1/8)
-[] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 2+3+4?) 5/570 6 dice 120R 34%
-[] Intensification of Green Zone Harvesting (Stage 8) 0/100 1 die 15R 52%
-[] Improved Hewlett Gardener Process Development 0/160 2 dice 40R 74%
Orbital 7/7+4 free 110R +31 (-2 1/8)
-[] Gravitic Shipyard 0/450 5 dice 100R 46%
-[] Orbital Cleanup (Stage 11+12) 32/170 2 dice 20R 81%
-[] Conestoga Class Development 0/60 1 die 30R 92%
-[] Lunar Heavy Metals Mines (Phase 4) 25/345 3 dice 60R 11%
Services 5/5 70R +31
-[] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment 0/200 3 dice +1 service 60R 88%
-[] Gene Clinics 94/120 1 die 10R 100%
Military 8/8 +2 Free 170R +30
-[] Security Review 1 Mil die
-[] Transorbital Fighter Development (New) 0/60 1 die 20R 91%
-[] Railgun Munitions Factories (Phase 1) 142/200 1 die 10R 88%
-[] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 3+4) 147/360 3 dice 60R 80%
-[] GD-3 Rifle Development 0/30 1 die 10R 100%
-[] Island Class Assault Ship Deployment 0/180 2 dice 50R 47%
-[] Modular Rapid Assembly System Prototypes 51/125 1 die 20R 77%
Bureau 4/4 +28 0R
-[] Security Review (Agriculture) 1 die + 1 Agri 94%
-[] Security Review (Mil) 1 die + 1 Mil 94%
-[] 1 die ?
-[] Focus Reallocation (Tib, Orb, HI most likely) 1 die
Free 7/7
2 Mil, 1 tib, 4 orb
So some early thoughts on a non station plan- please not this all depends on what advanced alloy deployment turns out to be- if it 1) reduces station progress cost and 2) can be done in a single turn I would do this which is a lot of clearing out other space projects in prep for station push in Q3. If alloy does not meet the above I would probably go all in on Columbia if 2 does not apply and if 1 does not apply a 7/4 split of Columbia Shala which should see Phases 1 to 3 of Columbia done and 1 and 2 of Shala done (possibly Shala 3 as well)
Mil- Security review because it has been a while, transorbital has been pinged as important so getting this done, railgun munitions is following up to get 1st phase out. GF Armor is getting 3 dice to try and squeeze 2 phases out. Meanwhile GD-3 rifle for a better weapon for our troops including the ground armor. Island Class Assault ship in prep for Karachi and since those take time to deploy. Ideally keeping 2 dice to work through naval deployments. And last die to try and finish the steel talon project
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Everyone's always so focused on doing draft plans, but why don't they ever try for daft plans, huh?
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I like making plans- it scratches an itch so draft plans like this even if i know a lot will change is a fun diversion. Plus it can start some discussion in thread about X project, or Y project.
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That's what we call "memeplans". Like my plan SPAAAACE!
Granted, sometimes they are less daft than others...
Ooh, very nice. Barghest looks like a very angry horseshoe crab. That will plasma your face off.
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Hmm... have you accidentally linked a wrong picture, or are the Lake-class and the Island-class supposed to be visually identical?
EDIT: Nvm. Differences were too subtle for me to notice at a quick glance at the deck and superstructure. Didn't expect the major difference to be bow shape.
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They're very similar but not identical as they're based on similar designs. Note the very front and rear of the ships and you'll see differences.
The difference is most visible from the stern where you can see the well deck on the Island. But otherwise, they're supposed to be basically the same just squished a little, the Islands were designed to come out of the exact same shipyards as the Lakes with minimal retooling after all.
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Just a heads-up, your using 4/5 die here not 5/5.
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...you do understand that we want the Gravitic Shipyard to be completed before we Develop the Conestoga because it will give benefits to the Conestoga?