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As I understand it, it's not just for personal use, it's for ferrying research institute personnel around so that e.g. they can assist with the Waystone project despite not being based in or near Laurelorn.
It can also suit for our first Windherder project, since people have been wanting to get a Gyrocopter to enchant for a long time. Either need alone isn't all that major, but I think both together is what pushed it over the edge in the constant fight for a flying mount.
 
So this is all anecdotal, so take this with a grain of salt, but I wanted to chime in on the discussion about collaboration.

I studied physics as an undergrad, and I spent sometime in a lab studying Solid State Physics (which is essentially the Physics of Material Science). As a physics student, I had very little practical chemistry experience at all (like 2 semesters of freshman chemistry), so the first 3 months of my time there was mostly spent just learning chemistry. For some reason, my department didn't collaborate at all with the chemistry department, and I remember being super frustrated spending so much time learning chemistry basics instead of doing physics. And I know for a fact that there have been times where both the Chemistry and Physics departments were tackling similar or literally the same problems, often competing for a solution rather than helping each other.

From my perspective, I should have been paired with a Chem Major, and we could have collaborated to get to work much sooner, with me covering the math heavy bits, and him the practical chemistry aspects I was lost on. What instead happened most of the time, is the chemistry department would find a solution that worked, but they had no idea why, then the physics department would rejigger their attempt at finding a solution to understanding what the hell happened with the existing solution. The whole situation frustrated me to no end, and I wound up moving on.

My whole point here is that I'm sure that there are a lot of both problems that could use a fresh perspective from people of different disciplines and people sick of thumping their head against a problem that their skillset doesn't fit perfectly. Even in a modern context, where we have well developed methodologies and systems of communication, cooperation between departments at the same college can break down, and cooperation can become competition, or worse, at loggerheads with one another. In WHF context, cooperation is not at all easy or common between humans at different colleges in the same Empire, much less different polities or species.

Baking collaboration into the charter is probably the only way we'd see real progress in this regard, aside from one-off efforts spearheaded by Mathilde herself.

Ironically, when the plan first came out, one of the first questions I asked picklepickkl about was if the lack of enumerated focus would hurt the institution, so I do get those arguments. Despite that, I still favor the idea of collaboration being addressed directly because I don't think having Mathilde push collaboration without it as a founding principle will have any lasting impact aside from the individual projects she gets involved in. And that's perhaps more important to me than a small set of things we can't research, or can research but with a small malus because they aren't 'cooperative enough' at our Branch College.
 
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[X] Plan: Cleaned Up College of Collaboration

Book club not going to win, so I vote for friend club.
Uses both Mathilde and dwarves, which is good.
 
[X] Plan: Research into jolly cooperation, and a library.

This sounds good but as there are 20 to 40 plans flying around I have no idea whatsoever.
 
This sounds good but as there are 20 to 40 plans flying around I have no idea whatsoever.
If you have any request for clarification, or if you just want to describe what you want and see if a plan of that sort exists, you can ask the thread.

Alternately, if you want to just shrug, let your vote stand, and wander off to do something else until the next update, that is extremely valid and honestly probably a good life choice.
 
If you have any request for clarification, or if you just want to describe what you want and see if a plan of that sort exists, you can ask the thread.

Alternately, if you want to just shrug, let your vote stand, and wander off to do something else until the next update, that is extremely valid and honestly probably a good life choice.
My plan was to just put a vote down and walk away because the number of pages this threat produces is to much for me.
But there are many plans that often do not differ much from each other or are so involved that just reading them do not help.
My main priority is a library away from the elfes and a focus on research instead of library (because the drawfs manage it).
 
My main priority is a library away from the elfes and a focus on research instead of library (because the drawfs manage it).
Great news for you! Of the top 5 plans, all of them except the 3rd place one (Redshirt with Gyro) do that, so you will almost certainly get what you want from this vote. Those 4 only differ in terms of what exactly the charters of the branch and library are (whether to focus on interspecies and interdisciplinary cooperation or whether to focus on specific kinds of things to study), so if you don't really care about that, you're all set and can walk away with your heart at peace.
 
that is extremely valid and honestly probably a good life choice.
Yeah, I punish myself sometimes by forcing myself to become current on discussion before voting. TBH, sometimes I just skim and read the ones that got a lot of votes, as those are the most likely to have gained traction and/or be a new meme lol.

This thread can move fast. I probably put more effort into being informed for voting here than I do my local elections... Which is probably not healthy but fuck it.
 
"What if I underachieve?" worried Mathilde "Drakenhof" "Divine Mugging" "Alkharad" "Eye of Gazul" "Battle of the Caldera" "Queekish" "Karak Vlag" Weber, Dame, Thane, Lady Magister, &c.

Patriarch Algard looks over his desk at you, expression severe. "I'm sorry, Mathilde, but your branch college just hasn't been up to expectations and will have to be disbanded. You've only rescued one lost Karak this decade."

"But sir," you reply desperately. "Karak Zorn was the only Karak still lost!"

"That's no excuse," he replies. "I'm afraid this decision is final."
 
Patriarch Algard looks over his desk at you, expression severe. "I'm sorry, Mathilde, but your branch college just hasn't been up to expectations and will have to be disbanded. You've only rescued one lost Karak this decade."

"But sir," you reply desperately. "Karak Zorn was the only Karak still lost!"

"That's no excuse," he replies. "I'm afraid this decision is final."
Eh, if we run out of Karaks to rescue, we can just start stealing Black Arks or something. I'm sure that can keep us going for a while. :V
 
So this is all anecdotal, so take this with a grain of salt, but I wanted to chime in on the discussion about collaboration.

I am a scientist and have coordinated my own interdisciplinary research programs. Collaboration is hard.

Even with groups that are completely on board and excited with a project, there's constant back and forth with emails, phone calls, virtual meetings, and so on just to make sure we're all on the same page. Even then, with all of that, there's still miscommunication and work that takes forever because we're ultimately separate groups pursuing a similar goal.

Meanwhile, the best collaboration I've ever had has been with the chemist who sits in the office next door to mine. In pre-Covid times we'd just shout back and forth whenever one of us had a question or dumb idea, both of which are frequent, because he's about as bad at mechanics as I am at chemistry.
 
Patriarch Algard looks over his desk at you, expression severe. "I'm sorry, Mathilde, but your branch college just hasn't been up to expectations and will have to be disbanded. You've only rescued one lost Karak this decade."
Your eyes narrow as you stare back at her him wordlessly, and she leans away from you as the silence stretches, nervousness growing in her his eyes. But then you incline your head. "As you wish," you murmur.
 
I was going to say I'm getting some real Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff vibes, but I think that's intentional.
 
as someone who has read all of homestuck, in all its forms, I appreciate this.

Oh wow. Everyone else I know who had ever done this had responded with a resounding "No!" If I asked if I should get into it, so.... I'm sorry?

Regardless, I liked the metaphor for trying to convey how to cast to someone who doesn't just instinctively get it.
 
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