ya, that is the general idea, if its not 'uniquely Ulthuan' then it's not limited.I mean, some of those would be coming from the East, so wouldn't fall under the New World classification. Spices and silk and fine china (fine cathay?).
ya, that is the general idea, if its not 'uniquely Ulthuan' then it's not limited.I mean, some of those would be coming from the East, so wouldn't fall under the New World classification. Spices and silk and fine china (fine cathay?).
What we lose is in effect "knowing we'll have basically as much of a free hand running things as we want." Nobody else is likely to just leave everything in our hands as Belegar is, apart from arguably running things in the border princes. Is there potentially gains to be made from running it under other places that makes losing that free hand worthwhile? Sure. But that free hand also Isn't Nothing.I mean, my logic here is very simple - our Dwarf Rep is "Yes", our College Rep is "Lord Magister", and our Elf Rep is "N/A". One of these needs shoring up, and it's not the dwarves. What do we actually lose in terms of contributions to the project by not going with the dwarves? It seems to me that we can get basically the same key investment from Runesmiths either way.
You're not alone, I'm on the Grey Order train as well. I'm just skeptical on how well it'll do when a lot of the people commenting seem to have written it off thanks to Imperial restrictions on working with foreign magic users.In other words, I'm the only one who'll be waving the "Grey Order" flag? That's...demoralizing.
What we lose is in effect "knowing we'll have basically as much of a free hand running things as we want." Nobody else is likely to just leave everything in our hands as Belegar is, apart from arguably running things in the border princes. Is there potentially gains to be made from running it under other places that makes losing that free hand worthwhile? Sure. But that free hand also Isn't Nothing.
Even Wikipedia.
Remember the word? So that we don't fall pray to it.Yes, that's very true. It just rankles that I can't really make use of what would otherwise be a very good resource because, for example, the Khazalid glossary has a word that I spent a literal hour scouring through the source materials for, and the only reasonable conclusion is that it was invented by whoever added it. Because it exists nowhere in the Warhammer books and nowhere else on the internet in a Warhammer-related context.
Now I'm curious about a general negaverse Warhammer. Has anyone made something like that with effort and detail, like how Brighthammer 40k is a thing?Now I'm wondering about the negaverse version of Warhammer Fantasy where it's the Oak of Seasons.
No, we're just the neighbors of the Dwarves that got heavily influenced by them. You know, the Empire in the middle of the Old World.The word for mountain and the word for fortification differ by only one letter?
Germans are dwarves, confirmed.
And bad, bed, bid and bud right next to those.
Wasn't the Reinheitsgebot just an urban legend? That's at least the sad conclusion I came to after trying to use it for teenage snobbery.The Reinheitsgebot was originally created so people wouldn't use up all their cereal grains on beer and leave nothing for bread.
I'm pretty sure this vote isn't getting counted. It needs to be in kts own line with the [X] at the very front.
If we work for the Elves then the Runesmiths will care about how much Dwarf Rep the Elgi have, with Mathilde just being a very strong modifier in their favor. A Runesmith might be willing to share info through us to Belegar, but he won't do that if he thinks that our duty is to pass sensitive information on to an employer he doesn't trust.I mean, my logic here is very simple - our Dwarf Rep is "Yes", our College Rep is "Lord Magister", and our Elf Rep is "N/A". One of these needs shoring up, and it's not the dwarves. What do we actually lose in terms of contributions to the project by not going with the dwarves? It seems to me that we can get basically the same key investment from Runesmiths either way.
Those benefits and drawbacks aren't peripheral, they're just ones you personally consider less important.Mm, it's undeniable that there are a bunch of peripheral benefits to K8P - we get a free hand, Belegar is probably richer than Laurelorn, we already keep all our stuff there, etc - and there are a bunch of peripheral drawbacks to Laurelorn - we have to deal with the whole Middenland/Nordland issue, the Cult of Sigmar will get snitty, and we'll be starting our relationship with our boss from scratch - but for the actual core focus of "combine the Waystone knowledge of the Colleges, Dwarfs, and Elfs", I think Laurelorn (and Marienburg) have a pretty key advantage, since to me it seems likely that the elves will let us go deeper into their lore if we're working for them (or a directly associated polity) - and I'm willing to put up with a lot of peripheral annoyances if it means we have a better chance of actually doing something amazing and setting changing once we overcome them.
I'm vaguely open to the Grey Order option. It's the quietest of the imperial options, and if we want to do this out of the Empire we want it to be quiet on an internal level - because the potential shitstorm surrounding the fact the whole project is about working with people it's illegal to have in the Empire is not something I want to court.In other words, I'm the only one who'll be waving the "Grey Order" flag? That's...demoralizing.
Oh, believe me I get that, I once tried to remove Baba Yaga from the list of Ungol Hag Witches.I'd rather not take the risk of sparking a wikiwar. Whoever squats on that page has proven very insistent on preserving the typos I've tried to correct in the past.
I mean, my logic here is very simple - our Dwarf Rep is "Yes", our College Rep is "Lord Magister", and our Elf Rep is "N/A". One of these needs shoring up, and it's not the dwarves. What do we actually lose in terms of contributions to the project by not going with the dwarves? It seems to me that we can get basically the same key investment from Runesmiths either way.
The Wasteland is pretty marginal but there are still people living there, because it's mostly marsh and marsh is more marginal by virtue of "annoying to extract resources from" than it is "difficult to live in."One advantage of Marienburg I'm not sure has come up: we have the Wasteland to put any research that might result in explosions or other unpleasantness in. Pretty much all other choices have us working in places where the locals would have issues with us accidentally blowing some of the land out of existence.
One concern I have with picking Laurelorn as the primary sponsor is that they made their invitation based on the fact that the K8P waystones got restored, assuming that we knew things. So what happens when the time comes for us to tell them what we know and it turns out we didn't actually know all that much?The Laurelorn Elves have voiced their desire to work with you to unravel as many secrets as possible about the network in the slightly inaccurate belief that you already have some of those secrets.
To be fair, if there are Fimir living in there (I don't think Fimir have come up yet in-quest?) then I think they'd be a bigger problem than the bog itself.The Wasteland is pretty marginal but there are still people living there, because it's mostly marsh and marsh is more marginal by virtue of "annoying to extract resources from" than it is "difficult to live in."
There are functionally equivalent problems everywhere though, that's nothing special to the Wasteland.To be fair, if there are Fimir living in there (I don't think Fimir have come up yet in-quest?) then I think they'd be a bigger problem than the bog itself.
Not insurmountable of course, even Mousillon still has people trying to live in it, but still.
I'd rather not take the risk of sparking a wikiwar. Whoever squats on that page has proven very insistent on preserving the typos I've tried to correct in the past.
Its also just annoying that the guy probably isn't even reading what has been changed or why.Oh, believe me I get that, I once tried to remove Baba Yaga from the list of Ungol Hag Witches.