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- Edmonton
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- He/Him
The expedition's landships don't go looking like an actual boat on wheels now do they?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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tapkomet
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus
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- Ukraine
Actually, that's kinda literally what they are, no?
... so your saying they forgot the fine finish when the humans did make sure to polish everything up?
Voikirium
SV's Estalia Guy
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- Ruritania Illinois
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- He/Him
Sounds about right.
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- Norway
"A bit" on the tall side? That's a vehicle taller than it's wide or long! It'll topple for a strong breeze, but it's supposedly able to mount cannon on top!
Then there's the weight. The crew alone (3 armored people to 1 horse) would be impractically slow if merely riding. The mobile turret-on-a-cart should render it almost immobile. The idea of super-armoring your infantry by putting them in a mobile fortification has potential, but then they put the horses on the outside and now you've got six immobile infantry if the enemy shoots one horse. The Empire War Wagon can't decide if it wants to be "armored chariot" or "wheeled fort" in the fluff, or maybe "elevated sniper nest" when Games Workshop puts both a rifleman and a halberdier in the suggested crew of the thing. Just who are you planning to stab with a halberd from up there?
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Sure.
If your definition of a fine finish is looking like someone stabbed some axels through a ship's hull and called it a day sure. That sort of nonsense is something I'd expect from the elves, but seeing as Marienburg is digging in their mine, I can see why they'd find it acceptable.
STICK A FEW WHEELS ON THIS BABY AND IT WOULDNT LOOK OUT PLACE ON LAND NOW WOULD SHE?
DWARF AESTHETIC, PRACTICAL ON LAND AND SEA.
tapkomet
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus
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- Ukraine
Ah, excuse me, it's a large boat made out of metal. On wheels.
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
We actually (OOC) know this one: The Throne of Power is second only to the Great Vortex in how much magical energy flows through it. It is stupifyingly Powerful. So yes, actually, the oversized chair does also double as a weapon of war. And it's not carried by wheels or, even worse, silly nonsense like floating, because that's just not reliable enough. The only thing more reliable than a Rune is a dwarf... powered by runes. Hence the Thronebearers.
So as you can see, The Throne of Power is a completely practical and flawless battle system. Accusations that Grungni wanted his Thronebearers to "drive me closer" so he could "hit them with my axe" are completely unfounded.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
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- Plato´s cave.
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- She/Her/It/Its
To. Few. CANNONS!Sure.
If your definition of a fine finish is looking like someone stabbed some axels through a ship's hull and called it a day sure. That sort of nonsense is something I'd expect from the elves, but seeing as Marienburg is digging in their mine, I can see why they'd find it acceptable.
STICK A FEW WHEELS ON THIS BABY AND IT WOULDNT LOOK OUT PLACE ON LAND NOW WOULD SHE?
DWARF AESTHETIC, PRACTICAL ON LAND AND SEA.
- Location
- Oklahoma
I'd argue that the Throne is still more impractical than any of those since at least they don't doom the entire Empire if destroyed.
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- Washington
Yes the point of tongs is supposed to be controlling another wind without producing dhar. But the fact that the Ulgu was not itself turned into dhar is itself a good sign, even if it's not directly applicable.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
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- Plato´s cave.
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- She/Her/It/Its
Nah, the Karaz Ankhor would have been doomed if it hadn´t been built.
Can´t fault a single point of failure when it´s a a successfull last ditch effort patch to fix the end of your people.
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- Oklahoma
Building it isn't the problem- taking it into battle is.
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- Canada
Dwarf...
Why does it look like it's made up of so many small plates rivetted together in such a haphazardly irregular fashion? Why are the plates running counter to each other? Why does it have so many structural points of failure?
Why are the broadsides recessed into the upper portion of the ship, meaning they'd fire over the crew on deck??
Why do you not make efficient use of the space above the water line for another broadside of cannon?
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- She/Her
It's invincible. No, really. If it got stolen, that would be a problem, but it's not going to break from battle damage.
Besides, this is Warhammer - if there's a battle that will doom your entire civilization and/or planet if you lose, you might as well bring your Big Battle Chair to the party. Those kinds of battles happen distressingly often in Warhammer's history.
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- Manchester, UK
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- He/They
It's not 100% clear that the destruction of the chair would doom the entire empire. Yes, it's the control system, but is it actually necessary to maintain the energy flow? I suspect not, as the runic arrays actually handling the energy are built into the mountain not into the chair.
You'd lose the ability to connect new waystones, but that's mostly lost already. Possibly lose the ability to connect new great works - but where are they going to get any of those anyway?
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Kislev: we call those times... Tuesday.
Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
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- At large
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Let me expand on why I seem to take "we'll want to work with non-Imperial magic users" (NIMUs, to refresh the acronym) as a given. It's because that's the unique thing that Mathilde can create. There are probably lots of people and places in the Empire that can set up a Research Institute. The list of people who can get a non-Imperial polity to fully construct, equip, and fund a Research Institute that can hire both Collegiate mages and NIMUs while aligning the purpose and practices of said institute with Imperial standards is... Mathilde, probably.
At this point I'm going to repeat something you said, but with a significant difference in emphasis. We, and the Empire, will not always have things that require the aid of non-Imperial magic users. But I believe in the value of cross-disciplinary - or perhaps we should say cross-traditional - studies. We know that there are things that the Teclisian paradigm can't account for. The Colleges know there are things the Teclisian paradigm can't account for. Not requiring the involvement of NIMUs is a far cry from not being able to potentially benefit from perspectives and knowledge that the Colleges don't possess.
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- USA
Border Princes: "Pah! If you're not slugging it out against bandits, greenskins, wildlife, and your own neighbors every day--with a Waagh every 15-20 years, just to break up the monotony--you're doing it wrong!"
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
"So long as the Rune as Azamar endures, the Karaz Ankor shall never fall".
I'm not going to speculate overly much on the result of it no longer enduring.
(If nothing else, Dawi morale suddenly plummets to the ground)
I'd put that one down to conflicting Oaths- the High King is never allowed to sit anywhere else (presumably to ensure that he's effectively guarding it) so he's basically forced to either take it on campaign or to never leave Karaz-a-Karak.
The Throne has taken some hits over the years- Greater Demons and Dragons have left some slight dents on the decorative carvings.
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- UK
Though I broadly agree with your points, for the Halberdier this is the world inhabited by such beings as trolls, kroxigor, minotaurs, tamed war-mammoths, giants... an assortment of tall and mean beasties really, not to mention fliers.
Sticking one of the guys up there with a halberd makes a surprising amount of sense.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
I had some time to kill this evening and started a reread, since I had been teasing @Darth. about it earlier and realized "hey, it's been a long time since my last reread." And I figured, hey, I might as well go hunting for typos and such! So here, therefore, are the early fruits of my labors.
Character Creation
(Feel free to skip these if you don't care about these chapters, it will not hurt my feelings)
Turn One
Turn One Results
Turn Two
Turn Two Results
(Also, this is super petty, but maybe word -> "term" or "phrase"?)
Also, rereading Turn Two results has made me remember the existence of Auntie Julia, and now I desperately want to introduce Pan to Anton.
Character Creation
(Feel free to skip these if you don't care about these chapters, it will not hurt my feelings)
it's -> its
Dwarvern -> Dwarven
it's -> its
both -> Both
between -> Between
handing -> handling
wrestles -> wrestle
it's -> its
Turn One
darkier -> darker
it's -> its
accomodations -> accommodations
Turn One Results
chest -> "chests" or "a chest"
enter -> enters (subject-verb agreement; trickle is singular)
increase -> increased
there's -> there are
lead -> led
it's -> its
elfen -> elven (or elfin, but I am pretty sure WHF consistently uses elven)
mind-mindbogglingly -> "mindbogglingly" or "mind-bogglingly"
it's -> its
it's -> its
elector count -> Elector Count
Turn Two
capitalize of -> capitalize on
Turn Two Results
account to -> account of
This sentence either needs a "but" before the "that doesn't mean" or a "while" after the "You explain to them that"
The -> Then
(Also, this is super petty, but maybe word -> "term" or "phrase"?)
The only way this bit is grammatical is if "he" is Abelhelm, which doesn't seem to make sense in context. Maybe drop the first "that" if the intended meaning is that Anton Jr. is hoping this?
it's -> its
it's -> its
who's -> whose
who's -> whose
Also, rereading Turn Two results has made me remember the existence of Auntie Julia, and now I desperately want to introduce Pan to Anton.
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Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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- He/Him
I just realized what bugs me about Waystones, and I hope that Mathilde finds an answer to the question in pursuit of this Project:
If getting the Winds to safely mix is beyond humans, then why can a bunch of inanimate objects consistently pull it off for thousands of years?
If getting the Winds to safely mix is beyond humans, then why can a bunch of inanimate objects consistently pull it off for thousands of years?
HanEmpire
Delicious
Because they're designed and optimized to do so.
Plus they don't mix them at all, they keep them nice and separate.