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"Kragg recognizing his own work but not remembering making it" was actually an idea I had for a hypothetical crossover between DL and DoDA, with Freddy having the Steelfist Kragg made when he gets dropped into DL.

Mostly because I can't see any other way he could convince someone he's not just crazy when he says he's from an alternate timeline in the past.

Having him show up with the Runefang would do it just as well. Two Brain Wounders are not exactly commonplace.
 
Honestly, I just can't wait to get the headpats. Like, all the headpats. Even Thorgrim wants to give us headpats, if we can stop accidentally dodging around him. High King headpats are the best.
 
Honestly, I just can't wait to get the headpats. Like, all the headpats. Even Thorgrim wants to give us headpats, if we can stop accidentally dodging around him. High King headpats are the best.
Eh. I'm not sure Mathilde will appreciate them much.
  • They'll be full of wounded Dwarf pride (which tends to insult humans)
  • They'll either be incredibly tedious (see the entire K8P campaign being told in detail, every tiny Grudge being read out) or extremely curt
  • And of course Mathilde isn't super happy with Thorgrim, and he mostly brings up bad memories
 
Eh. I'm not sure Mathilde will appreciate them much.
  • They'll be full of wounded Dwarf pride (which tends to insult humans)
  • They'll either be incredibly tedious (see the entire K8P campaign being told in detail, every tiny Grudge being read out) or extremely curt
  • And of course Mathilde isn't super happy with Thorgrim, and he mostly brings up bad memories
Well yes... but then she gets to smug at him on behalf of Belegar. Since, you know, it's partially his fault she was even there.
 
Would people actually like me to make a recursive fanfiction quest?
Because if so I'd be willing to try, 'though I'll freely admit it would be slower updating and lower quality than Divided Loyalties.
This would certainly not be the first fanfiction of a fanfiction that I followed. I'll read it if you make it, at least to start. A path not taken is always an interesting option.
 
Definetly not a bad idea at all. I in your place wouldn´t do it, as that would be directly measuring your skill against Boneys, but if you go for it I´d be willing to give it a try.
My thinking's actually the opposite - I wouldn't have to worry so much about the quality of my writing because it's fanfiction which means it gets the fanfiction "acceptable writing quality downgrade". (Only once, unlike most recursive fan-fic because BoneyM isn't using their leeway, they're writing professional-level stuff.)

It'd also be a quest which come with their own extra leeway, although they have different requirements.

The only reason I could write the omakes is because of the fanfic downgrade rule - I write for a living, self-employed because of neurological health issues, and have been having panic attacks when I try and do pro-quality work recently.

EDIT: If not this one I might finally do one of my other quest ideas. But they're very much off-topic :p
 
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Honestly, I just can't wait to get the headpats. Like, all the headpats. Even Thorgrim wants to give us headpats, if we can stop accidentally dodging around him. High King headpats are the best.
Belegar headpats are why I get up in the morning. Kragg headpats, too. Just inject that straight into my veins.

Thorgrim's headpats for Vlag are only a minor plus in my book, but he owes us Okral headpats too. We had the Protector on for that little adventure too, you may recall (retroactively, but still).
 
How are we going to repeat the Caldera if the Black Orc High Priests of Gork get a vision of being assassinated by a Humie Avatar of Mork during the ritual? They are definitely going to take precautions and be on guard.
By arriving after that had already happened. Late Arrival means arriving at the point we transported the box to K8P, which only became possible once we had a home to transport it to - and that home was the penthouse of Karag Nar, the reclamation of which included that whole Mork Mugging incident.

Alkaline being forwarned is indeed a problem, so we'll need to find another way to get rid of him and his college, but as long the effects of his awareness don't propagate too far outside Stirland/Sylvania, the Butterfly Slaying and Strings of Fate picks should keep him from derailing the Caldera victory.

The only point of danger to the Caldera victory I can think of is that Emissary from the Council of Thirteen, and since he didn't see Mathilde when she killed him, he won't know what, specifically, he needs to be extra paranoid about. Best case is he just doesn't show up. Worst case... well, I think I remember a post from Boney saying he rolled for exactly who that Eshin sorcerer was heading off to meet, and a Verminlord was one of the options.

All that said, if you do turn this into an actual recursive quest instead of just quest-formatted recursive fanfic that maybe takes some inspiration from thread feedback, I think it'd be better off in a thread of its own where the tally feature can be used for real.
 
... not that it's not fascinating (it is.)

but I think the time-travel talk is hitting the 'own thread' mark, or at least close to it.
Only if it gets to the point where a new thread is actually created for it with the purpose of doing something with it. As of now it isn't much crazier than some other tangential thread madness has been.

Edit: Oh, voting is still open. Didn't even notice. I guess then arguments can be made to cool it down.
 
pretty sure Warhammer is largely still in the Animal-skin Parchment stage, and dwarfs aren't known for being quick adopters of new tech.
It's not impossible they hooked up with a Cathayan paper-maker a couple thousand years back.

They aren't quick adopters, but they also take pride in have the best x around.
 
Still at that "carving into stone tablets" stage then. After all, as long as it still works...

"We are IN the Book of Grudge lad, the mountain is the book, the walls are the pages. Behold!"


It's not impossible they hooked up with a Cathayan paper-maker a couple thousand years back.

They aren't quick adopters, but they also take pride in have the best x around.

Paper is cheaper, is it the BEST though? If vellum is slightly better but 100X more expensive, I'd kind of expect dwarves to still use vellum.
 
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It'll probably depend on "how long will it exist?", considering dwarf lifespans (and thinking). How long does early-tech paper last before crumbling away as opposed to contemporary vellum?
 
@BoneyM How would you feel about me attempting to turn the Broken Mirror omake into a recursive fanfiction quest? Following the journeys of a Mathilde Peggy Sued from right about now.

All personality disparities would be blamed on damage from the Wisdom Asp, and all continuity errors blamed on Tzeentch messing with the past. :p

Go for it.

@BoneyM what do the dwarves make their paper out of?

It's an oft-debated topic but necessity usually requires they default to parchment, as papyrus requires a tropical environment or trade access to it, whereas parchment just requires animal hides. Modern wood-pulp paper is only available from Cathayan import, though the Carpenters and Runescribes Guilds are engaged in a lot of very long-term experiments with it to see if the papermaking techniques they've been able to reverse-engineer can produce something that can last indefinitely, and if so, what conditions and resources it requires.
 
It's an oft-debated topic but necessity usually requires they default to parchment, as papyrus requires a tropical environment or trade access to it, whereas parchment just requires animal hides. Modern wood-pulp paper is only available from Cathayan import, though the Carpenters and Runescribes Guilds are engaged in a lot of very long-term experiments with it to see if the papermaking techniques they've been able to reverse-engineer can produce something that can last indefinitely, and if so, what conditions and resources it requires.

Acid Paper is going to piss them off soo badly.
 
Something I've been thinking about:

Up on deck, Egrimm is watching the rising sun and you take a moment to take in the landscape with him. Dawn is a time of significance for both your Orders, though for quite different reasons. To Ulgu it is a transition, the moment on the cusp of day and night, not fully one or the other, where shadows stretch longest and fog still clings to the ground. To Hysh it is illumination, the hidden and unknown becoming suddenly clear as a single source of pure light banishes the darkness. As the two of you stand there, strands of Ulgu creep up the side of the steam-wagon to seep into you and wisps of Hysh ride sunbeams to find purchase in Egrimm.

"It's been a pleasure working alongside you," he eventually says, "and a very welcome reminder that the competent can still claw their way up the ranks."

"Likewise. The journey would have been a great deal more stressful if I couldn't count on you to keep the Lights in hand," you reply, avoiding commenting on the latter part of his statement. You do hope he manages to get out from under Alric's shadow and make his own way in the world. "Any messages you'd like for me to pass on?"

He shakes his head. "We'll not be too far behind you, it's only about a week to Kislev City and from there it's all downstream to Altdorf." You nod. The Lights were here at the behest of Magister Patriarch Alric, so they have no payment waiting in Karak Kadrin, just whatever reward the Light Order might see fit to grant them. "If you ever have another adventure in mind, let me know, and I'll see if I can claw my way free to join it."

"I'll keep that in mind," you promise with a smile.

Did we kind of give poor Egrimm a midlife crisis?

I mean, he was pressured/sent into the Chaos Wastes by his Patriarch, to essentially be under the command of a Grey Wizard Lady Magister, the college of magical secret-police and skullduggery, and...

She turns out to be a near perfect boss. Friendly, collaborative, organized, adept at both fighting and diplomacy, well versed in magic and good at talking about it, and when he asked at the beginning for the personal leeway to manage the younger Lights on his own, she gave it to him without even once looking over his shoulder to check his work. Until he brought up his concerns to her about one of them, at which point she didn't go all Inquisition! on the poor guy, but rather took the young journeyman aside and conducted a completely noninvasive interrogation that left everyone involved feeling better about themselves with zero lingering resentment.

I get this feeling like he's going to end up staring into a drink at some point wondering HOW did I end up joining the WRONG FREAKING COLLEGE?!
 
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