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Yeah, I guess the Kislev gods saw Ranald go all out for them there? Sent a top tier champion and then personally jumped in the ring to go 4 rounds with the chaos god.

Now I really want to talk to Ljiljana more , not even to get an idea of how that's going to play out either, just cause I think she's cool and I want her and Mathilde to be friends.
 
... We should probably make sure Ljiljana doesn't keel over asleep while we make our way back. Especially if she's going to be having to make her way back by riding one of our shadowsteeds instead of the way she marched inexorably towards the Kul.

She's probably at least as worn out as Mathilde was after the Gork/Mork theft or the Dawizhufokri thing.
She's got very little fight left in her. There's a couple of Russian idioms in there too: 'reach the handle' means to be completely out of something, and cats crying means to be in very poor circumstances.
Neat. :) The way I heard it, is that apparently there's a Russian food that you could eat it even with dirty hands if you were a miner or something; part of the pastry food itself was a handle that you held. i.e. It was a pastry of some sort (I assume/presume?) and part of the bread was a handle-like object; so you held the food by that, and ate the rest of the non-handle stuff.

(Having asked real quick and googled a bit more effectively, I think I found the food it was referring to. Kalach. It was indeed a pastry. Comparable in shape to like a bagel or something since, well, because of the hoops. The drawing on the wiki page, with the kettlebell-shaped pastry, was what I was picturing when thinking about the "handle" though. That was the way I had always pictured it when I first heard that saying; a basket-like-shaped pastry, held by the "handle" of the 'basket' or 'kettle', and you ate the rest of it.)

When you finished eating the rest of the pastry, all that was left would be the handle. Which is considered inedible I believe. Hence, the saying of "reached/got to the handle." It means you're basically out, down to zero, nothing left in the tank, running on empty. The expression of "reached the handle" however is meant to be about or express "Well, that's it, that's the limit, I've got nothing left" or such. There's some desperation and hardship there, yeah.

And of course the expression of "Well I'm running on empty" can also apply to stuff like your own patience or tolerance or stamina or whatever.



So yeah, I'd say Ljiljana is probably at least as tired and worn out as Mathilde was after the Gork/Mork theft, or after the Dawizhufokri thing saving the Okral. The ones where Mathilde didn't want to do anything for the rest of the battle, and where Belegar sent some guards along with her to make sure she didn't pass out searching along the riverline. That would be an appropriate thing to say at that level.

Yeah, sure, technically you could maybe do something and cast a little bit. Realistically, you're at 'Fffffuuuck doing anything for the rest of today' level.

We should probably make sure Ljiljana doesn't keel over asleep while we make our way back. Especially if she's going to be having to make her way back by riding one of our shadowsteeds instead of the way she marched inexorably towards the Kul.
 
I should find a good commission artist. I need to see art of the scene where Mathilde tosses her staff aside in favor of her greatsword while staring down a Chaos Champion that towers over her. It's too badass not to be illustrated.
I mean, technically she dropped it for her gun—having already had Branalhune out and swinging—but yeah, I would totally want to see that.
Yeah, I guess the Kislev gods saw Ranald go all out for them there? Sent a top tier champion and then personally jumped in the ring to go 4 rounds with the chaos god.

Now I really want to talk to Ljiljana more , not even to get an idea of how that's going to play out either, just cause I think she's cool and I want her and Mathilde to be friends.
It really does say something about how fucking crazy Ranald—and Mathilde—was, especially when you remember this particular line:
You can't run from this foe without risking the entire battle, as if he meets the storm and brings his unholy patron into direct conflict with the Gods of Kislev, that could end it all.
Like, Mathilde and Ranald looked at Khorne and his champion and went, "he could fuck up four much stronger gods than me/the person channeling said gods. Why don't we go get in his way?" Goddamn madlad and madlass, they are. Gotta love that Brave trait.
 
I should find a good commission artist. I need to see art of the scene where Mathilde tosses her staff aside in favor of her greatsword while staring down a Chaos Champion that towers over her. It's too badass not to be illustrated.
I did not think of that. The Champion definitely dwarfed Mathilde (pun intended).
Khorne champions are very much the type to be an eight foot mountain of meat.
And Mathilde barely touches 5 feet XD.

We should totally make an illusion of this and have it painted IC.
Since we can't take a selfie with the Khornecicle. :V
 
I mean, technically she dropped it for her gun—having already had Branalhune out and swinging—but yeah, I would totally want to see that.
Ugh. My memory of the update is getting fuzzy already. Guess I need to reread it again.

We should totally make an illusion of this and have it painted IC.
Since we can't take a selfie with the Khornecicle.
I know what I'm going to write in for the next social vote.
 
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Right up until I get a barrage of creative reinterpretations of how Substance of Shadow has been repeatedly shown to work, I'll allow it.
Caught up to this part. @BoneyM If jewels as a whole don't win and no one can come up with an ingenious way to take more than two options, can we still grab just one or a few particularly interesting-looking ones that can go in our trophy room but can't be sold/studied/whatever for the same reason we could only turn that dragon skull into mundane furniture?

Edit: And is there a Kul banner anywhere that Mathilde can safely loot to put up with all those looted Skaven and greenskin banners?

Edit Edit: If there's more than one such banner, or just usable cloth in general, could Mathilde improvise a backpack/lootbag for holding more loot (and thus taking more than two options)?

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I am no longer allowing suggestions for creative solutions to carrying more cargo.
... Nuts. Well, the question about one or a few souvenir-only jewels stands.
 
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So, since now we got approval from Grandma Kragg Ljiljana from that set of hijinks, does that mean we will get something even more valuable than headpats? The Legendary Cookie? 🍪
She was munching nuts back when we first met her, so no cookies for us.
God dammit. I'm tempted to slam the door in people's faces and tell them to sort it out themselves. Marienburg's been an asshole the past few centuries, whats another half year?
Perhaps another Dawi Ship sunk.

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Honestly if we're immortalizing this moment—IRL or in-universe—we should probably make sure all the gods are represented. Or at the very least, Khorne and Ranald, with the Kislevites in the background of the storm, because they were as much a part of the battle as Mathilde and the champion.
 
Or, maybe we don't immediately dedicate it to Ranald, and instead try to puzzle out what kind of God this is and if they are a malevolent god if not. If they're not malevolent, then... I dunno. Research more?

Maybe it is an in for Ranald and Mathilde to beam a message of anti-tyranny to open-minded and scorned Kurgan (Yusak)?

Would be very interesting if Mathilde can yoink a Mannsleib portfolio or subvert it to begin a religious civil war amongst the Kurgan.
 
I am no longer allowing suggestions for creative solutions to carrying more cargo.
Well, shit, and I'd just come up with another idea too. One and a half hours of open time is a little short, and a lot of the repetition comes becomes there's like a hundred people and nobody can keep up, but... oh well. =/ Though technically it's more something maybe useable for the future, rather than for this situation...

Also, something that might be more relevant for evacuating survivors rather than loot, so, a question about Shadowsteed.
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BoneyM can we summon a Shadowsteed with no rider, and just have it follow us? I'm wondering if we could fashion rudimentary saddlebags to hold the jewels and tie them on. We aren't exactly a leatherworker, so it could be a roll to see if they hold? Alternative, do the same on our own Shadowsteed and/or Ljiliana's?

We could even try to make the bags out of silk, or tie the silks around the Steed's barrel? I feel less dodgy about taking the Silks if we aren't passing up other options for the sake of hedonism, but are instead trying to tack it on afterwards.
"Can your ghost-horse carry?"

"Just a person, and whatever they can carry."
This made me wonder about that literally. Doesn't work for various reasons, but I wanted to ask if it's possible for this brainstormed idea to be reoriented for "evacuating a wounded ally with Shadowsteed" instead.

For example, here's an idea that basically takes that literally:

*Stuff some silver and jewels into a Kurgan's pockets, maybe multiple Kurgans
*Cast Mockery of Death (or Sleep followed by Mockery of Death) on the Kurgan (the normal sort, not the ethereal one)
*Cast Shadowsteed on him, and command the Shadowsteed yourself
**Probably does not work because the Shadowsteed dispels itself "until it is dismounted or until dawn the next day, whichever is first." And "the unconscious person keeled over and fell off the horse" would be a "dismount", so.
**Also, everybody's dead, Dave.
**And you wouldn't want to search for a living Kul, or use up the Seed to resurrect one, just for this. Risky and precious-resource-consuming.
**And you probably wouldn't want to take along a Kul passenger with you, even if you were going to wipe their memory or kill them or whatever.

((So that's the reasons why it wouldn't work, or would be ruled out as "Nah, don't want to do it this way" for our specific situation here, so.
((Also, no more ideas being accepted for how to get more stuff, that's also another reason this doesn't work.))
That brings me to the main/other reason I asked about this usage Shadowsteed, namely...

Could this usage of Shadowsteed be viable for evacuating an unconscious ally from the field of battle? 'Cast on unconscious ally; guide the rider and steed away by being right next to them the whole time on your own steed; prop them up against your shoulder to make sure they don't fall off their steed and dismiss the spell.'

Possible problem which makes this totally impossible: if the Shadowsteed can only be commanded by the one riding it, and somebody being dragged or led does not work, or needs to be cast on a conscious person to work in the first place. Can only be commanded by an awake person. i.e. If Shadowsteed actually needs a, y'know, rider to work. Maybe solvable by, like, tying a rope to the person or riding right next to them and having them effectively resting on your shoulder?

But if you're doing that, then you're going way more slowly than Shadowsteed allows, so... this wouldn't work as a very speedy getaway method. Probably speedier than "literally on foot" though.

But can this be used to evacuate an unconscious ally, and thus extricate them out of the area that way? Whether you had to tie a rope to them, or ride right next to them physically propping them up on your shoulder so they don't fall off the horse?

If you can carry a single person with you on your own Shadowsteed -- like if the person is light enough that you can give them a piggyback ride, a small child maybe -- maybe this would allow you to bring a second person along?
 
You know, I wonder what Ranald's going to tell Heidi about all this. Would he brag about going four rounds with one of the Big Four and coming out even, or would he complain about the mess Mathilde dragged him into? Eh, probably a bit of both, really.
 
Ranald vs Khorne rolls: 1st round, Ranald won and tried to use that victory to get an upper hand in future rolls. Rounds 2 and 3, Khorne won and used the opportunity to buff his champion, including the antimagic effect. Round 4, Ranald won and made sure that Ljiljana (who was on her way anyway) intervened before the Champion could finish you off.
fuckin best god
 
Well, I'll admit that of all the enemies I thought we might encounter in an apparently primarily Slaaneshi camp, a Khornate champion wasn't on the list. Despite how badly it nearly turned out, however, I'm actually pretty happy with how Mathilde did.

Khornate enemies are basically the worst possible opponents for Mathilde, since their mixture of anti-magic and melee mastery is an almost hard-counter to Mathilde's skillset. And yet despite that, and the active interference of Khorne (Ranald was on our side, but not directly empowering/aiding us), we went toe-to-toe with a freaking champion of Khorne for four rounds. Yes, I know we lost, but this is an opponent who would completely mulch most wizards, and we fought him on even ground and actually had a not-terrible chance of winning (our respective bonuses were only something like 7 points apart). So yeah, despite losing I'm happy with our performance there. Still want to master our Branulhune style, though!
 
The Ballad of Saint Grey
We have accepted a new quest.

There is a new story to tell of Ranald and Saint Grey, a daring champion of his who most definitely was not completely outshined by the combined forces of the entire Kislevite Pantheon no sir, no madam Ranald and Saint Grey were the heroes this day

Up to the chaos wastes, rode we,
with the Crone
and the Widow
and the whole Kislev family

We made with all haste,
'top our shadowy steed
as the Crone did march North
at incredible speed

"what's the plan?", asked we
our target well known
as evil kitchenware
that'd best be made gone

A vicious smile, "You'll see"
to our heroes cracked the Crone
as the wrath of all Kislev
danced within her bones

She stomped 'cross the ground
quickly covered by snow
legs and lungs pumping
like divine bellows

Twas the rumble of thunder,
Twas the roaring of bears!
It was blizzards and ice shards
all shredding the air!

The harsh gaze of sunlight!
the screeching of hawks!
and us brought behind
just to handle the locks

"Behold!" cried the Crone
and the Widow as well
"Dasvadanya Kul bitches,
and witness your HELL!"

Some Kurgan did tremble
Some Kurgan did cry
The one thing they all did though
was suffer and die

for Gospodar Vengeance
had come for them all
any sharing their name
with damned Asavar Kul

[dramatic space for audience to boo and hiss and spit]

And so slunk we heroes
'tween Kul screams of pain
as the first to pull heist
amidst divine bear-i-cane

we padded through shadow
and slipped through tent flap
we silenced foul daemon
with a gun fired, "splat"

we, guided through gauntlet
did gather foul goblet
summoned our steed
and prepared to leave on it

But the storm did seem stalled
spin in place, did the squall
if the Crone needed help
need we wait for a call?

"Kill the ice bitch!"
cried a Kurgan we saw.
The Protector did snarl
and pull out our claws

A pike sliced in twain
and a spawn into sixths!
This one was a battle
that we would not miss!

And as happens to battles
that occur too far north
a champion did come
to check it for worth

it surveyed the field
and saw many old enemy
and then saw the Saint
and chuckled dark levity

"Cat!" was it's cry
"Foul Magics you wield!
I'll be taking your champion's
skin for my shield!"

And he thought we'd turn tail,
so his attention did wander
an opportunity given
that we would not squander

Squared up to the Storm
of all of Kislev's might
The Brute cracked it's neck
it was eager to fight

It's faithful were dying
by bushel, by drove!
it made to bring aid,
and most of it dove!

But part of the brute
was pinned painf'ly in place
"What?!" roared the thing
confused look on it's face

Shocked was the brute!
a knife slammed in his back!?
"How?!" howled the beast
"You're a cowardly cat!"

Ranald then sneered up
at the towering beast
a fraction the thing
which his kinsman would beat

"A cat, yes, with claws
and something to prove
and a Saint who has gambled
whom I will not lose"

The shard roared with it's champion
and swung axe with abandon
both Saint and their Patron
matched blade and stayed standin'

"ROAGH" fury screamed
as both en'my lashed out
"Gah!" Saint and Cat
did take wounds in that bout

"HOW DARE YOU RESIST ME"
did foul evil screech
"YOU TRICK AND YOU TAKE
YOU ARE NAUGHT BUT A LEECH"

and Ranald did stagger
and blindly, Brute leapt
and did not once see
where Ranald's Knife was kept

"WHERE-" started them
that were swiftly cut off
as Ranald's own Knife
did carve Chaos a loss

"Now I may be a trickster
a thief and a gambler
and when I tell stories
I'm often a rambler

and once in the past
I did run, but no more!
I've sworn since then also
to be Protector!"

with the shard now defeated
he pounced down to the storm
his reception in Kislev?
surprisingly warm

his kin who had already
mauled burned and frozen
all who wished claim
to be the Brute's chosen

All except one
lock'd duelin Saint Grey
who was thinkin,
their luck might run out on this day

The Crone and The Widow
The Bear and The Sun
The Hawk and The Cat
grabbed that champion as one

They lifted it up
the ground itself quaked
"The Disciple of Our Kin
is not yours to break"

And so died the champion,
And so lived the Saint!
And so came we here,
with a story to paint!

For Ranald has been
Trickster
Gambler
and Rogue

For Ranald has been
too long
far from his home

A debt held for ages
fine'ly lain to rest
The Protector fine'ly
has his kin's respect

[to be performed at the Temple of Ranald at a Shrine to Ranald we place within made of the stolen weapons from the event in question]
 
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You know, I wonder what Ranald's going to tell Heidi about all this. Would he brag about going four rounds with one of the Big Four and coming out even, or would he complain about the mess Mathilde dragged him into? Eh, probably a bit of both, really.

He still hasn't finished being Smug for the dwarf thing. This is only going to add to that.
 
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Edit: any chance of forming the silk sheets into a makeshift backpack. sorry if this idea has already been brought up still catching up on the thread
 
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