Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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The same way we got answers about Skaven from infiltrating their strongholds - looking at what they do, and stealing their stuff. This is Mathilde's primary skillset.
That's actually a pretty good point - we just watched several nobodies run up to Morghur and get in a fight with him, and only a few died? That's really not what one would expect.
Oh you want to infiltrate and kill everyone who is basically creating that exact same scenario by using beastmen as Jannisaries? I don't think we can accomplish that, and I know for a fact that you still think they're innocent. They aren't, they didn't communicate with us because they knew what they have done is unforgivable.
That's somewhat of a euphemism for torture and I'm still suspicious of if you could get a secret from a dwarf that way. I also doubt the threads willingness to vote for what it would take to get those answers.
Forbidden Arts
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- Oklahoma
Usual reminder that torture doesn't actually work.
Mathilde's preferred method of interrogation is building a rapport, which is not something you do in an hour or two.
Mathilde's preferred method of interrogation is building a rapport, which is not something you do in an hour or two.
By carefully scouting the place out over the course of months, you mean? I really don't think you appreciate how short a timeframe 1-2 hours is.
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- some computer lab
finding out whether the empire and the karaz ankor needs to worry about a beastman equivelent could be crucial intel. I believe that we have no idea whether they're innocent or not, and we should be certain of what is going on before we report back.
Infiltration of Karag Dum
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Like, the primary bonding Mathilde has had with Borek is making the point that she not only understands using bad to fight worse, her College are experts at it. He'll believe we just want to talk.
Binding a demon proves guilt in and of itself, tho, and Morghur certainly counts.
It doesn't work in general- in specific cases it works quite well indeed. If you take a hammer to someones kneecaps, they are going to start spilling real quick- the issue is having enough skill to balance the threat of pain, with inflicting pain, and finding the point where they start making stuff up to keep the pain away because they have nothing else to give.
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We know that they bound a Dhar using being that is still using Dhar.
Like, this isn't just something that the Karaz Ankor can't accept. They touched The Bad Stuff, a wizard would be getting burned at the stake about now.
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Morghur is a Beastman.
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- New York, USA
Well, its either the super-radical kickflip runemasters who we already know were studying and doing a lot of things that some would consider iffy in the name of combatting Chaos or a God who was supercharged enough in some way to bind Morghur. I genuinely don't see how they manage to do the God thing without some fairly suspect rune-stuff either, so it's looking a little dicey for any runemaster to be able to downgrade their actions to "able to be paid with restitution/community service".
Just because he believes that doesn't mean he is willing to talk. He wasn't interested when he left and it doesn't seem like he has changed his mind since. Nor are any of the other dwarfs interested in filling us in.
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- Philippines
we should try making a speech to protect Karak Dum's name before infiltrating, if it works good , if it doesn't then at least Ranald's coin will be activated for trying and may give us some brownie points. and may make them accept us as a not enemy
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Dhar poisoning is still a thing.
Even Fredrick Van Hal fell to much lower dhar exposure over a much shorter time. The Dwarves' resistance to dhar is not immunity. If they weren't crazy at the start they are now.
edit: I'm not even talking about the demigod, remember the constant dhar rain. I give it a week before we see the Slevenia dhar options again if we stayed.
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There is no speech that will convince Dwarves that Karag Dum binding what is pretty much a daemon is acceptable. And step-by-step details are unnecessary.
No. If she could get it into her towers and had a few days she might be able to achieve that level of familiarity.
At last, a visual depiction of the kickflip zone. This is a work of art.
No, it won't.
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Jesus Christ what the fuck man. No torture doesn't work and I have no interest in adding new sins to Mathildes soul.
Undead-Spaceman
Skeleton Supreme
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This is true but he's not the only Beastman in those woods. Just because he's nutso doesn't mean his followers are completely without sense.
We have no gurantee the Beastman will even speak a language we understand.
He's not going to tell us fucking state secrets, tho.
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did the dwarves do that, or did a god they're working with do that? Dwarves doing magic is also a Bad Stuff tier offense, but Belegar hasn't attracted any grudges from having us work for him to our knowledge
dwarves exposed to too much dhar become statues not supervillians, and the waystone is functional.
I really don't think we need to have an argument about torture. In setting it's a thing that Mathilde believes is part of the toolkit but seems very unlikely to be relevant here.
Morghur technically isn't a demon. That being said you are still basically correct. Binding an army of Skaven or Vampires isn't exactly the same as binding demons but it's still obviously not a sane and moral decision.