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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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HungryHamadryad said:
reading the Liber Mortis was, in retrospect, a very good idea
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Let's try to compile a list of all the direct and tangible beneficial results it's already had:
  • I allowed us to massively cut down the time Gunnars needed for his very first task as Councillor.
  • It helped us command an army against the Skaven of K8P.
  • It facilitated saving Gretel from the consequences of her miscast.
Anything that I'm missing?
 
...just realized that we still don't know who exactly was behind the whole barge bombing incident. It's been long enough that I'd actually forgotten about that other mystery.
 
HungryHamadryad said:
Is it? I personally have no idea, I just assumed it was crawling with uglies and probably riddled with Skaven tunnels at this point.
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I'm pretty sure that if nothing else is secure, the road between K8P and Drazh is stable.

I dont know how many openings the rest of K8P and Drazh have separately, by all accounts it's a lot, but there's been a lot of fighting over that stretch of road in particular so we should have a solid understanding of it.

I don't recall how detailed the descriptions got, but I was lead to believe it's a straight path, no bends or turns, and no other openings. Just K8P on one end and Drazh in the other, and if there was proper lighting you could wave at someone in the other hold.

I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got.
 
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Shard said:
I dont think trying to do Ulgu Tongs on a turn with a - 10 is a good idea.
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Put the coin on it and it's a +10.

Rafin said:
Let's try to compile a list of all the direct and tangible beneficial results it's already had:
  • I allowed us to massively cut down the time Gunnars needed for his very first task as Councillor.
  • It helped us command an army against the Skaven of K8P.
  • It facilitated saving Gretel from the consequences of her miscast.
Anything that I'm missing?
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It helped improve the quality of a bunch of necromancy-related papers.
 
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I think we need an faq or a list of discussion which has been talked to (near) eternity..

Such as the ulgu tongs, secret of dhar, necromancy and Mathilde's choice of partner(s).

Me? Id prefer Ulgu Thongs:rofl:
 
At this point I want Tongs done to either finally kill the topic, or to give it some actual substance instead of just being pure conjecture.
 
Resonant said:
Out of the 3 types of Caledorian Dragons, would Deathfang qualify as a Star Dragon? @BoneyM
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If Mathilde had to guess, she'd say so.

HanEmpire said:
In that case, can we make it a topic of academic interest for Cython? The effects of lesser races on the development of an adolescent dragon, or something, which might happen rarely enough that it's unresearched. I figure it might make Cython interested just enough for zim to give us some nuggets of information on how to raise a dragon, or shed light on how a dragon takes on a Wind aspect.
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Cython has a specific range of interests and they've given no indication that child psychology is part of it.

Briefvoice said:
So something occurred to me.

Of Cython's interests, we know that they are keenly interested in the degree to which deities may or may not be the same across different cultures and different identities. Has Mathilde ever actually explained to them that she has developed her magical sensitivity in a way that can not only sense divine energies but actually identify differences between divine energies? Because that's a rare enough talent even Cython may not have it or have heard of it. And that sounds like an experiment they might actually be interested in participating in. We could cut a deal with them, "Hey, Cython if you can come up divine artifacts and/or locations that you suspect may belong to the same gods under different names, and Mathilde will sniff at them and tell you if they seem to belong to the same deity or a different deity."

1. This serves Cython's interest by helping to confirm their theories.
2. This serves Mathilde's interests in exposing her to more divine energies and allowing her to study them.

@BoneyM is there potential for trying to entice Cython into a joint research on that, a subject they're actually interested in? Mathilde brings the Avatar trait and Cython brings knowledge of accessible places to find divine energies and a better idea of what they want to learn from them.
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Cython has been doing their thing for quite some time. It is extremely unlikely that they'd believe that Mathilde has superior Magesight.

Rafin said:
I don't even mean just that. A high Diplo or high Intrigue Stewardship advisor can leave the actual bookkeeping to an assistant. A high Stewardship Intrigue or Military advisor can be in control of a vast network or flawless logistical machine and let the actual skullduggery and campaigning be up to handpicked agents/generals. The Faith stat of the Faith advisor might well be his least important stat if that's how you want to roll. He can make it up with high Intrigue and Learning, and Diplomacy is probably where his focus should be anyway. And if the EC's Learning advisor isn't a Wizard whose job is to find magical solutions to magical problems, he can literally be anything. Someone specialized in diplomacy with neighboring non-Humans. An administrator of a research facility. A secret second Spymaster. Anything.
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If an advisor can't answer questions about the matter they're responsible for and needs to go ask one of their employees, they're considered incompetent, not efficient. This is before the modern era of middle management.

Rafin said:
Speaking of, how do our dear Magisters all feel about the conundrum in front of us?
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Social them on the way back to find out.
 
Alliterate said:
Ah, but that is not quite true.

Journeymanling Mathilde was far superior in the serious matter of tugging sconces off walls.

No matter the grave personal risks to her person, honour and reputation.

Even Magister Mathilde managed to retain enough of her youthful vim to turn her hand to this underrated skill, albeit with the application of bodyweight to a single example.

But as yet, Lady Magister Mathilde has not demonstrated any retention of this capability.
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I still do love that image. Newly minted Magister, dangling from a wall sconce until it gives way under her entire body weight.

Mathilde so smol.
 
DarknessSmiles said:
personally, i kinda expect a "rest" action to be available. otherwise, i would like to just try and get master greatsword progressed. maybe put an action or two to controlling our arcane marks.
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That's a great turn plan, maybe if AP to spare we can work towards the Mushroom paper. Need a few more towers for each wind to have one.

I might have missunderstood something but...

What is stoppning us from overworking one turn for that extra oomph. Then rest one turn with a malus. Then one turn with extra oomph. Repeat.

Because this should give us more AP? Or has Boney said it is a no go?
 
Fehu said:
That's a great turn plan, maybe if AP to spare we can work towards the Mushroom paper. Need a few more towers for each wind to have one.

I might have missunderstood something but...

What is stoppning us from overworking one turn for that extra oomph. Then rest one turn with a malus. Then one turn with extra oomph. Repeat.

Because this should give us more AP? Or has Boney said it is a no go?
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It would mean that almost half of everything Mathidle ever does would be at a malus.
 
It's probably not a good idea to make too many turn plans when we don't even know what we come back to.

A reminder that the Dawi just declared a grudge against Mathilde's oldest friend unbeknownst to her, which I imagine she might have some reactions to.
 
Also... there's only so much Boney can write. If turns covered more AP, they'd take longer to write or cover less detail. There's no magic trick we can do to make updates happen faster.
 
BoneyM said:
Cython has been doing their thing for quite some time. It is extremely unlikely that they'd believe that Mathilde has superior Magesight.
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Bit of a dumb question but, are Unaligned Dragons considered magical creatures on their own, and would they also develop Windsight?

In WHF metaphysics, was there an existing magic system that Dragons used/know about before the Old Ones arrived on Mallus?
 
Shard said:
I think it's a dangerous topic that should be handled with maximal care (read: bonuses).
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I don't get that feeling primarily because the anti dhar belt should trivialise any mistakes that create dhar, we've been told by Boney we could literally juggle warpstone with no downside I don't think any dhar we make by accident is likely to matter.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I don't get that feeling primarily because the anti dhar belt should trivialise any mistakes that create dhar, we've been told by Boney we could literally juggle warpstone with no downside I don't think any dhar we make by accident is likely to matter.
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Miscasts. Completely new form of using magic. She doesn't even understand the paradigm for ulgu tongs, the equivalent of a 1st secret of Ulgu Tongs or such.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I don't get that feeling primarily because the anti dhar belt should trivialise any mistakes that create dhar, we've been told by Boney we could literally juggle warpstone with no downside I don't think any dhar we make by accident is likely to matter.
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If the tongs produce Dhar, then that it becomes lot riskier, and possibly treasonous, to keep studying them, even if they might not if done with better control, so a bad roll might end up closing that door.
That said, if nothing of greater importance comes up once we get back, i would be open to testing even with the overwork penalty.
 
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