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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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So some people have already started guessing which three posts it might be, using logic and rationality.
I shall instead just go with unbridled arrogance.
So a treaty with Athel Loren, and not actual beastmen - why because I said it.
The mountain has been reconfigured into a great Rune of Valaya to purify the Dhar away. - Because I think it was a cool suggestion and thus naturally approve of it.
A spatial disjunction, the desert comes from somewhere in the South past the equator. - Just for what comes next.
This of course leads to the all encompassing secret. The single stone that brings it all together.
That is not Cor Dum we see before us.
It is Orion in a silly costume.
In the deep darkness of the Chaos Wastes. There is no peace, only endless war. For Summer is eternal, and the god of the hunt no longer sleeps. He merely spends his time waltzing over the Kurgan hordes and crushing them.
And full power Orion hanging around all the time means he gets to keep stepping out and swatting the real Morghur whenever he wakes up.
Could we really tell the difference between one horned demigod, and the other?
I shall instead just go with unbridled arrogance.
So a treaty with Athel Loren, and not actual beastmen - why because I said it.
The mountain has been reconfigured into a great Rune of Valaya to purify the Dhar away. - Because I think it was a cool suggestion and thus naturally approve of it.
A spatial disjunction, the desert comes from somewhere in the South past the equator. - Just for what comes next.
This of course leads to the all encompassing secret. The single stone that brings it all together.
That is not Cor Dum we see before us.
It is Orion in a silly costume.
In the deep darkness of the Chaos Wastes. There is no peace, only endless war. For Summer is eternal, and the god of the hunt no longer sleeps. He merely spends his time waltzing over the Kurgan hordes and crushing them.
And full power Orion hanging around all the time means he gets to keep stepping out and swatting the real Morghur whenever he wakes up.
Could we really tell the difference between one horned demigod, and the other?
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- Canada (eh)
What's the Wood Elf equivalent of a grudge? Because this comment would probably warrant it considering Orion (and all of the other wood elves) really hate Morghur.This of course leads to the all encompassing secret. The single stone that brings it all together.
That is not Cor Dum we see before us.
It is Orion in a silly costume.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Yeah, sorry. My levels of clarity are starting to zigzag a lot, and that was one of my stupider thoughts. I think I'll go edit it out and then... probably just stop posting. Or paying attention at all, because I'm just feeding my fractured imagination with bad ideas.
People should really consider not voting for the meme vote and considering it "safe" just because it won't win, since this is explicitly a "take all the top ideas" situation.
as a dwarf we must honor our debts
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- some computer lab
dwarves on the expedition might be more inclined to let us poke around if if it is also in the name of ascertaining the status of our debts.
NexusEye
Aspiring God
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- She/Her
I know right, we must not let that vote win! Because we actually owe 2000 gold not 1800, we bought those Lustrian papers too, remember thread?
Also going to make a prediction. The Chaos tribes are going to flip if it turns out we're Pro-Karack. Like war-drum call everyone the mutual enemy is getting reinforced. Slannesh realizes where we are, rings up the demons that we killed for a wargang. Tzeentch busts out the partyball. Khorne breaks off a bottle top.
Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
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- At large
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It actually is not confirmed that he's "reality breaking" per se. We can see that he can/does affect reality, but the way that "normally" manifests for Morghur is spontaneous mutation of everyone and everything (including inanimate materials) in his general vicinity. And that visibly is not happening. Further, Boney confirmed that, in theory, increasing the level of reality around Morghur might have created a similar effect around him. Since it would be in contrast to the baseline unreality of the Chaos Wastes, which AFAICT means that what Mathilde is actually detecting is a localized disturbance in the ambient level of unreality which could be either "up" or "down", as it were.
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- Actually pretty lost
It's going to be so embarrassing/infuriating if Mathilde gets taken in by a trick and doesn't even bring up the possibility that it's not the real Cor-Dum, when it's missing its most defining characteristics: A hyper-mutation aura, and being so insane it literally couldn't interact with Borek in the manner demonstrated.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Put my guess at 'spatial disjunction', 'working with high elves' and 'dwarf soul'.
Moghur was captured by the High Elves or the Asrai, since they wanted to get rid of an unkillable demigod permanently. The Dwarves did some high-grade chaos purging and/or put a dwarf soul inside Moghur. The forest and desert are a spatial disjunction to allow this to work.
Moghur was captured by the High Elves or the Asrai, since they wanted to get rid of an unkillable demigod permanently. The Dwarves did some high-grade chaos purging and/or put a dwarf soul inside Moghur. The forest and desert are a spatial disjunction to allow this to work.
the crux of him being purified rests on the fact he isn't emitting nuclear reactor levels of Dhar.
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- Great Khanate of Scotland
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- She/Her
Having read (mostly) the last >80 pages of debate, I have to say "the Rune Masters of Karag Dum have somehow purified or controlled Cor-Dum in order to get him to assist them".
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- Actually pretty lost
I just don't believe an incredibly desperate dwarfhold in the Chaos Wastes could manage what the leader/demigoddess of the Wood Elves in full preparedness couldn't.
Hmm.
What if *she did* though? If she was present at his last death, could she have tethered it to a Dwarven Waystone?
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Sure, but the High Elves and Wood Elves were already working together on the last Morghur hunt. If Dum did strike some sort of deal with the Elves in desperation, who's to say that the High Elves, Wood Elves, and Runemasters together couldn't pull it off, with a major Waystone and existing runic infrastructure to use as a base?
Yeah it's a point of incongruity and it's up in the air who actually has it. Though it's also been suggested that the White Dwarf isn't really a physical entity and his axe isn't either.
It's a possibility but as far as I know, no one pushing the 'it's an illusion' angle has demonstrated any rational reason to bother creating it in the first place. Seriously, surrounding your hold with a bunch of Gronti or Dwarfs who happen to look like Beastmen instead of just putting them to work defending the fortifications proper? What's the payoff here?
Well, they have access to an avenue of magical research that the Elves don't, and they might also have access to more raw power as well, given their locale. A lot of the theory simply hinges on happenstance though - namely that Cor-Dum sort of fell into their laps and they were desperate enough in the first place to take some action other than chucking him into the nearest fireplace. The wood elves aren't that desperate, and the opportunity could have simply never arisen for them.
Disagree, the Kurgan seem to be pretty savvy. I doubt they will not throw themselves against us in a single bloody minded attack. Afterall if some other idiot softens us up first then they have two nice targets. The Kurgan will act in their individual interest not in the group's best interest. That should buy us some time to GTFO.
Or Grimnir was a master of the legendary three-axes-style, which has sadly been lost to modern dwarfs. He tried to explain it, but all the non ancestor dwarfs were too overawed to tell him that they could not understand him through the axe in his mouth.
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- Earth
Speaking of Kurgan, each 1d6 we rolled for the Kurgan tribes had a 16% chance of having them immediately turn hostile. I expect that even trying to meet the other tribes in the area for info will have similar roll tables.
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- Actually pretty lost
I don't think Ariel ever leaves Athel Loren? She's the leader of the polity, and has religious duties with Orion etc. She couldn't come up to Dum. It seems unlikely that Ariel could mess with Dwarven waystones, but she would at the bare minimum have to be there in person, right?
I still don't believe they could chase him so far North from Bretonnia, to be honest - it seems much more likely that he got away from them somewhere, as he did every other time. Morghur would never come this far North so far from Athel Loren if any other opportunity to go back that way existed, and it seems very unlikely that they could chase it so far, so diligently. Even if they are Elves.
The illusion - or disguise - is just on "Morghur" itself, to trick the other beastmen into following it as a leader (every beastman instinctively reveres Morghur). It acts like the Karak is a herdstone, "praying" to it, so they do the same, defending it with their lives. None of the rest need be an illusion.
I've got to go to bed, but I'm worried that the obvious theory that it's not really Morghur isn't even going to get enough votes to be brought up at the council.
[X}[THEORY] OmegaHugger
[x] THEORY: The specifics are hazy, but this is a known contingency plan that Borek is entirely aware of, but hoped hadn't been enacted. The result breaks all Dawi notions of acceptability, but Karak Dum survives in some capacity and continues to inflict attrition on every local and visiting Chaos force that want to take a swing at them, so it is considered a lesser evil by the pragmatic Karak Dum.
[x] ACTION: I'm going to have to check this out.
EDIT: Seems good!
[x] THEORY: The specifics are hazy, but this is a known contingency plan that Borek is entirely aware of, but hoped hadn't been enacted. The result breaks all Dawi notions of acceptability, but Karak Dum survives in some capacity and continues to inflict attrition on every local and visiting Chaos force that want to take a swing at them, so it is considered a lesser evil by the pragmatic Karak Dum.
[x] ACTION: I'm going to have to check this out.
EDIT: Seems good!
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
[X] THEORY: The Dwarves of Karag Dum did something to burn away the taint of Chaos, much as your Belt of the Unshackled Mountain does, but on a far grander scale. Perhaps it had an effect on the Beastmen here, Cor-Dum included.
[x] ACTION: Investigate further.
[x] ACTION: Investigate further.