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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Admiral Kol said:
I apologize if this was already answered and I missed it, but is the dwarf grudge on Ranald actually canon?
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That was the statement the Ancestor Cult actually released, it will be in a future threadmark.

As for why .... it's possible there's some info we are missing, like, for example, they might think we have or will stumble upon a secret and they've sworn to kill any non-Dwarf who learns about said secret, so this might be the only way to avoid having to kill us.

I'm trying not to judge till we've found out more about why it happened.

It is worth noting that the grudge against Ranald might be declared resolved without us doing anything, which is nice.
 
BoneyM said:
Mathilde has been told that Pit of Shades works by slitting open a hole between reality and the very thin plane between reality and the warp, which crushes anything that's sucked into it. Slitting that open across the width of a battlefield seems like it would do bad things. And something aimed with the hand seems worse at targeting than something aimed with the mind.
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Aw. I mean I get it, but that would've been hella awesome :V

ninjafish said:
Would a ranged spell that carried the "Mechanism" for opening the pit, but only activated on impact be possible?

Basically a more focused "Delete" button of a spell. Instead of the regular Pit's "Fuck everything in this general area."
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I did ask that, alas, see Boney's answer.
 
The Lone badger said:
IIRC the Skaven occasionally try to deorbit the moon. The Slaan prefer that it remain where it is.
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The Skaven want to knock Morrslieb out of its orbit to bring it closer to Mallus. The slann want it out of its orbit, going away and never coming back.

Fayhem said:
So what I'm hearing is that essentially Morrsleib isn't so much orbiting Mallus as it is stalking it.

...Somebody google "how to make a chaos moon understand you're breaking up with it".
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@Xantalos 's Lizardmen in 40k quest, Respect Your Elders, opened with that. It was pretty awesome.
 
killfr3nzy said:
Mathilde, strutting down into the orcish depths of the untaken Peaks.

"I know you're here, Mork, you big fucking nerd. Where's my goddamn thesis?"
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It's been a while, but I was suddenly reminded of this when thinking about how we took the Karak back from Slaanesh and people want to write papers on it. Mathilde really does have a bad habit of robbing gods, doesn't she?
 
guyfromtheplace1 said:
Even if it were subject to those things a hypothetical blocking object would still need to be under continuous control to stay in blocking position, as objects in lower orbits circle faster than those in higher orbits(and thus a blocking object would end up ahead of the blocked object unless its position was continuously corrected).

Maybe something smaller than a whole moon used as a screen? a disk of stone?
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This technology is already widely used and extemely effective, and is commonly known as a 'roof'.

Admiral Kol said:
I apologize if this was already answered and I missed it, but is the dwarf grudge on Ranald actually canon?

Because that has some very strange implications. They're saying a dwarf soul can be stolen (which by itself will cause a big stir) and that a dwarf soul can be magical (which we already established during the 'possession by Ork god' check that magic is soulbound and an influence on the soul).
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Quest canon already has it believed by Dwarves that Dwarves that die without being attended to by an acolyte of Gazul have their souls return to the warp, and that a Dwarven soul will remain intact and be reborn as another Dwarf. From there it's not much of a leap to it being possible to interfere with this process.

Admiral Kol said:
And it appears to have sent out this in response to great deeds done. Does this mean that the High King thinks humans aren't capable of such acts ever? Did Sigmar cause a grudge to be taken out on Ulric for his deeds? The implications of 'you're too good to be human, you must have been a stolen dwarf' are actually really insulting.
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Approach it from the other side. 'A human saved a Dwarfhold when nobody in the entire Karaz Ankor could'. Put that on top of 'a human did more for Karak Eight Peaks than the High King did' and 'a human translated Queekish when generations of Dwarven scholars couldn't' and you've got an extremely rough message to internalize. Alternate explanations could become very convincing at that point.
 
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Ericwinter said:
It's been a while, but I was suddenly reminded of this when thinking about how we took the Karak back from Slaanesh and people want to write papers on it. Mathilde really does have a bad habit of robbing gods, doesn't she?
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Look, if they don't want to be robbed they should stop leaving their valubales lying around. Honestly, who leaves a Karak right were they took it and expects it not to be recovered? And investing a large amount of your energy in a material vessel during a major battle? That's just asking for it.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Of course. The upside of scouting is to mitigate the downsides of engagements. Less lives, time, and materiel lost.

And much as the optimal outcome would be "no engagements at all", that's frankly not up to Mathilde, whether she scouts or not.
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I don't get that logic. We have a whole bunch of knights and Rangers whose job it is to scout. Mathilde's unique abilities are mainly focused around infiltration; she can also do what a normal scout can't in that she has the tools to get out of a bad situation (provided the enemy doesn't have spellcasters--which is a big if, this far north), but so do a company of elite knights.

But it's far more worthwhile with our time to observe a rare phenomenon involving the Winds, for even the potential of progress towards greater insight towards them. Consider: without our advanced Windsight, we would not have been able to notice anything at Karak Vlag--obviously, that made a huge difference on a big scale.
 
I wonder if this Dwarf-souled thing could have any influence on the Traditionalist/Radical divide within Dwarfen Society. Having a "Dwarf" achieve incredible feats in service to Karaz Ankor through unorthodox methods and magic of all things could be the sort of example that the radicals could point to as proof for the need to change. It's far-fetched since this is getting into Dwarf Wizard territory of crazy nonsense, but Mathilde is right there and she's very clearly a "Dwarf".
 
BoneyM said:
Approach it from the other side. 'A human saved a Dwarfhold when nobody in the entire Karaz Ankor could'. Put that on top of 'a human did more for Karak Eight Peaks than the High King did' and 'a human translated Queekish when generations of Dwarven scholars couldn't' and you've got an extremely rough message to internalize. Alternate explanations could become very convincing at that point.
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You know, this reminded me about how I mentioned earlier that the "what" part of "information shared by a trusted individual" is just as important as the "who", and I wonder. On the off-chance restoring the flow from Karak Vlag and Dum actually fixed some deficit in the energy production that remained even after Eight Peaks, or even just Thorgrim not considering the bare minimum to be enough and only thinking dwarf-kind properly saved after a sizable surplus was established... well, is it possible he told the Ancestor Cults that Mathilde saved the dwarves? Or at least that she was responsible for more than just recovering a Karak singlehandedly or something. One would think the High King counts as a trusted individual, and him vouching first anybody pretty powerful.

Then again, it's late and I have a headache, so this might just be crazy talk.
 
NexusEye said:
I recall you mentioning Morrsleib's phase could be different at different locations miles apart which implies that it gives no fucks about both having a single location and the optical rules of how light should reflect off of it.
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Kind of reminds me of Outer Wilds and the Quantum Moon. The moons position depends entirely on whether it is currently being observed, and who the hell is going to look straight at a giant pile of quantum-shifting, glowing warpstone to keep it fixed in place?

Ah, i had good times with Outer Wilds.
 
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BoneyM said:
Approach it from the other side. 'A human saved a Dwarfhold when nobody in the entire Karaz Ankor could'. Put that on top of 'a human did more for Karak Eight Peaks than the High King did' and 'a human translated Queekish when generations of Dwarven scholars couldn't' and you've got an extremely rough message to internalize. Alternate explanations could become very convincing at that point.
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*A human kid, basically, in dwarf years.
 
[x] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
[x] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
[x] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
[x] Ice Crone Ljiljana
 
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Enchanting question, sorry if it's been asked before: Do item enchantments have to strictly correspond with a spell, or can we make tabletop style weapons that just hit harder or more often?
 
BoneyM said:
Quest canon already has it that Dwarves that die without being attended to by an acolyte of Gazul have their souls return to the warp, and Dwarven belief is that a Dwarven soul will remain intact and be reborn as another Dwarf. From there it's not much of a leap to it being possible to interfere with this process.
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Wait, quest canon? I thought this was quest canon about Dawi belief, not "what definitely happens"

vsh said:
*A human kid, basically, in dwarf years.
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Aren't we young adult in Dwarf years?
 
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