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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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NuclearConsensus said:
Not necessarily. K8P didn't read as reconnected until the Azrilbezaz, Belegar's completed crown, was in range. We'd probably need something similar from Vlag and Dum.
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Maybe not. Dum is sending power, but it's getting cut off by the Vlag part of the connection, so at worst we would need to fix Vlag. Assuming they're not just being disrupted by no longer existing in the real world, and automatically continue once returned.
veekie said:
Its a lot of magic suddenly shifting. Anyone monitoring the continental scale flows of magic would have noticed something moving.
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...Think the Slann might get involved now? Once could be coincidence, but multiple times is a sign of something active going down, or it would be if we actually knew what we were doing.
 
Briefvoice said:
Oh wow, wait a moment. He didn't have that "Daemonslayer" trait this morning. I'm pretty sure BoneyM edited that in today! Nice, and potentially very useful in the near future
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Nothing on Mathilde's Character Sheet, presumably it's not as big an achievement at her level. Snorri also has the distinction of being the only one of the Rangers who was unaffected by the temptation effect it sent out, that my be another factor for why he got the trait, he not only killed a Daemon but successfully resisted its influence when every other Dwarf with him succumbed.
 
NexusEye said:
Nothing on Mathilde's Character Sheet, presumably it's not as big an achievement at her level. Snorri also has the distinction of being the only one of the Rangers who was unaffected by the temptation effect it sent out, that my be another factor for why he got the trait, he not only killed a Daemon but successfully resisted its influence when every other Dwarf with him succumbed.
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Isn't it possible he had the trait but Mathilde didn't know about it?
 
[X] Waystone Clog

You know, I did not expect our first major purposeful interaction with the Waystone Network would be break it in a way that will produce warpstone. Skaven friend rubbed off on us.
 
@BoneyM If we do the Clog, what's the effect going to be upstream? Or to be more specific, how long until the effects are felt upstream? I'd hate for it to turn out that bringing back this hold turns out to doom the other one because they deliberately overloaded the connection to keep themselves out of the warp.
 
uju32 said:
In which case the daemonette attack force would not have needed them to bring back the whole Karak in the first place to launch an attack.
Theyd just have created a temporary portal, like you see everytime some Chaos sorcerer or effect summons a bunch of demons into the real.

The real clincher though, is the fact that when they took the Karak back into the Warp, they left parts of the Karak behind.
Which points at real resource constraints on the part of the perp, whether expertise or power or conditions.
I mean, there is no Storm of Magic in play any longer, so major rituals like this are much more difficult than they used to be to execute or maintain.

Backup power reserves are possible, but this is not the Storm of Magic any longer.
Reality is much harder to bend under these conditions, and there will be a definite timer running for them. They cannot rely on us giving up and leaving before said timer runs out, so they have to react and not attempt to wait us out. Especially if Karag Vlag is actively resisting.

Furthermore, they have to consider the other possibilities.
We clog the nearest waystone. If there's no reaction, then we clog the one upstream of THAT as well.
And unclog them on our way back from Dum.

Besides, Slaanesh not Tzeentch. Elaborate contingencies are not especially in theme for followers of this member of the Four.
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There wasn't a Storm of Magic when it first disappeared either. The Wastes were further south, but that was a function of the Wastes being expanded by the giant army of Chaos marching south.

Also, unclogging on the way back from Dum involves destroying the waystones and cutting Vlag out of the network permanently.

veekie said:
Its moving but in a way that makes it closer to the Plan than it used to be so thats a good change.
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The Waystone network isn't part of the Plan AFAIK. Chaos invading was never suppsoed to happen, so the Elves fixing that wasn't either.
 
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One bit I find interesting is that we didn't really solve the mystery by dint of any of our magical skills. We solved it because of the Grey Wizard Mindset driving us to question why we phrased a thought the same way multiple times. It wasn't that we were more skilled than Teclis, it's that the uni-wind approach he engineered led us to be more paranoid than Teclis
 
mastigos said:
One bit I find interesting is that we didn't really solve the mystery by dint of any of our magical skills. We solved it because of the Grey Wizard Mindset driving us to question why we phrased a thought the same way multiple times. It wasn't that we were more skilled than Teclis, it's that the uni-wind approach he engineered led us to be more paranoid than Teclis
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It's not paranoia if there really is a cognito-hazard messing with your mind.
 
mastigos said:
One bit I find interesting is that we didn't really solve the mystery by dint of any of our magical skills. We solved it because of the Grey Wizard Mindset driving us to question why we phrased a thought the same way multiple times. It wasn't that we were more skilled than Teclis, it's that the uni-wind approach he engineered led us to be more paranoid than Teclis
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It also helped in vindicating the paranoia that the weaponised meme used wasn't something a dwarf would think, and the same Grey Wizard LM had gone native enough to notice it, and there was a dwarf right beside them to verify.
 
Ooh, another thing we might learn while here is how to actually use Waystone power for something, if we get a look at the inner working of this dimensional shift effect. That could be really useful for when we actually get around to working on them properly.
 
[X] Waystone Clog

Meanwhile, Khorne is laughing so hard he's crying (tears of blood, of course).

After the last time he told Slaanesh to go stick a cork in it, he wasn't expecting someone to actually try.
 
BoneyM said:
At this point it's only a matter of days to weeks until it sets off from Karak Kadrin, if it hasn't already. Various forces are making their way to Praag from across the Old World. It's not stopping for anything.
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BoneyM, back in October. This expedition isn't stopping for anything.

BoneyM said:
- Any answer but 'no' will result in the Expedition remaining here until the Karak Vlag situation is resolved.
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BoneyM, today. It turns out there is something it'll stop for.

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If "clogging" wins, I can already picture Mathilde explaining the plan.

MATHILDE: Nnnn... Actually, yes.

(turns to Snorri)

MATHILDE: I know how we can take back Karak Vlag.

(turns to Gotrek)

MATHILDE: And we can do it with the strength we have on hand.

(turns to Borek)

MATHILDE: And we're going to do it in less than a week, to preserve your schedule.

(Horstmann turns to his journeymen)

HORSTMANN: Typical for a Grey. Nothing they love more than making things appear out of nowhere. I'm only surprised she didn't start with "for my next trick".
 
Apologies if this has been addressed, but what are the odds this comes back to bite us with the Kurgan? Stealing a mountain from a dark God seems like the sort of thing that gets their attention (and this impels their servants against you). This would be pretty bad supply wise, which may be compounded by the fact that we're spending extra time here.
 
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