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You know, I wonder if Asarnil is aware that Teclis took a look at Karag Vlag once and failed to see this. It might help his respect for us if he knew we managed it when Teclis didn't, especially since as a probable non-Wizard he wouldn't really know why it was so much easier for us. Especially if we do manage to drag the mountain back to the real world.
 
I think the Daemon in charge of the Vlag displacement field panicked, I can't think of any other explanation for why they acted the way they did. When Mathilde raised the alarm they quickly spent a ton of energy to move Vlag back into reality to respond but was unprepared, the only forces it had were the Daemonettes that happened to be near the entrance. When Deathfang arrived they quickly spent even more energy moving back into the Warp but left the outer buildings behind.

If the goal was to hide then they should have stayed in the Warp, Mathilde couldn't have done anything to them and she wouldn't know anything more than "someone is doing something with a lot of magic" which is useful information but not really actionable. If the goal was to silence Mathilde they should have stuck around so the more powerful daemons could emerge and exterminate us, Deathfang is hard to kill but sufficient daemons will do the trick. Instead it's the worst of both worlds, we live to tell others of Vlag and what's more now we know that a) Vlag still exists in the Warp, and b) Slaanesh is responsible and even if they do kill us they have to drag the watchtowers and road back into the Warp all over again.

The only explanation I can think of is that the Daemon in charge panicked and is now being raked over the coals, possible literally.
It is a very Slaanesh type of mistake. Quick response without any restraint. The violent one likely would have fully committed and not pulled back. The plotter would have done nothing we can see. Not sure about the sick one.
 
The current vote can be summarized as a battle between:

Yes Waystone Clog Vs No Way!(stone Clog)
*glances at vote numbers* you sure it can even be summarized as a battle? :V

It is a very Slaanesh type of mistake. Quick response without any restraint. The violent one likely would have fully committed and not pulled back. The plotter would have done nothing we can see. Not sure about the sick one.
The sick one probably would have just waited for us to come to them.
 
We might want to cast Pall of Darkness when discussing our plans. It occurs to me that it should block many forms of scrying.
 
Thorgrim, on the technical support line: "Yeah, I don't know what the issue is, the Throne of Power just isn't picking up on Karag Vlag at all."

Mathilde, wearing a headset in IT: "It might just be a loose connection issue. Have you tried disconnecting Vlag from the socket and plugging it back in again?"
 
Thorgrim, on the technical support line: "Yeah, I don't know what the issue is, the Throne of Power just isn't picking up on Karag Vlag at all."

Mathilde, wearing a headset in IT: "It might just be a loose connection issue. Have you tried disconnecting Vlag from the socket and plugging it back in again?"
Oh, if this works doesn't that mean Thorgrim will suddenly out of the blue, just after the expedition left, receive messages from the Throne that Karag Vlag and possibly Dum have been reconnected to the network? That would be amazing.
 
It might take days to fall back into reality (plenty of time for reinforcements), and the gate is the size of an entire Karak and it's outlying fortifications. Every watchtower in the pass is also missing, so unless we want to risk being surrounded by demons behind dwarven defenses when they return we will need to fall back to the outer perimeter of their defenses.
We should move the whole convoy out to somewhere three days' travel at demon speeds so it's impossible to hit, then clog the Waystone. It'd be crazy to leave a target sitting there.
 
Oh, if this works doesn't that mean Thorgrim will suddenly out of the blue, just after the expedition left, receive messages from the Throne that Karag Vlag and possibly Dum have been reconnected to the network? That would be amazing.
Even better, he might have already gotten that for the minute or so it was hanging around in reality. Assuming it automatically connected, at least, and we don't have to dismantle the enchantment and reconnect things. Then it disappeared again. And then a few days later it will come back on again, and stay on—hopefully—but only after he's spent a while panicking and trying to figure out what happened. Then he gets a message from the expedition letting him know we fixed things again, oh and could he actually send a Throng this time? Pretty please with sugar on top?

Actually, something to note, but didn't Laurelorn notice when K8Ps came back online? And probably Ulthuan, though we never got around to asking them? Meaning the Elves of both areas are going to notice the supposedly missing Karak is back, and oh hey, is that Loremaster Weber involved again?
 
Oh, if this works doesn't that mean Thorgrim will suddenly out of the blue, just after the expedition left, receive messages from the Throne that Karag Vlag and possibly Dum have been reconnected to the network? That would be amazing.
Not necessarily. K8P didn't read as reconnected until the Azrilbezaz, Belegar's completed crown, was in range. We'd probably need something similar from Vlag and Dum.
 
Snorri glares at the cliff-face. "It's not right," he says. "No songs to sing of their doomed defence, no occupied hold to retake. Just removed, with nothing left but fading memories."

"Changes little? A lost Hold is right there!" Snorri says, pointing at the cliff face.

"Is there a chance Karak Vlag still holds?" Ruprecht asks. "The gates have fallen, but I know enough of Dwarfholds to know that would not have been the only line of defence."

"What I know of Karak Vlag says aye," Snorri says, "but I know too little of the tainted realm to speculate."

Anyone else get the impression that Snorri takes Karak Vlag very personally? It's not just the regular gnawing of a lost hold that all dwarves feel. This hold in particular means something to him.

Snorri Farstrider, Head Ranger of the Karag Dum Expedition, commands the Alexis.
Clan Redbeard: This Dwarf is a member of Karak Kadrin's Ranger Clan that watches over the northernmost extent of the World's Edge Mountains.
Daemonslayer: Snorri has met the Daemons of Chaos in battle and struck them down like a seasoned veteran.
Fullbeard: Having passed the age of 70, this Dwarf is considered ready to become a Master at their chosen profession and take Apprentices of their own.
Renowned: Snorri is well-known for his abilities to navigate the surface world, an affinity that is looked down upon by some.

Oh wow, wait a moment. He didn't have that "Daemonslayer" trait this morning. I'm pretty sure BoneyM edited that in today! Nice, and potentially very useful in the near future.

Anyway, Snorri is too young to have actually been to Karak Vlag, and he's a member of a Karak Kadrin clan, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had family who were in Vlag when it disappeared. Remember he was telling us that once upon a time his clan and the Karak Vlag Ranger clan shared responsibility for patrolling High Pass. That's the sort of relationship that creates deep ties, probably including marriage alliances. He might well have a great-uncle or great-aunt who disappeared along with Vlag. Today he saw Vlag with his own eyes, so near he could touch it. The road that disappeared for 200 years was beneath his feet once again.

Yeah, Snorri wants this bad. I expect him to be the member of leadership who will be most enthusiastic about any chance that Mathilde can offer.
 
Even better, he might have already gotten that for the minute or so it was hanging around in reality. Assuming it automatically connected, at least, and we don't have to dismantle the enchantment and reconnect things. Then it disappeared again. And then a few days later it will come back on again, and stay on—hopefully—but only after he's spent a while panicking and trying to figure out what happened. Then he gets a message from the expedition letting him know we fixed things again, oh and could he actually send a Throng this time? Pretty please with sugar on top?

Actually, something to note, but didn't Laurelorn notice when K8Ps came back online? And probably Ulthuan, though we never got around to asking them? Meaning the Elves of both areas are going to notice the supposedly missing Karak is back, and oh hey, is that Loremaster Weber involved again?
Its a lot of magic suddenly shifting. Anyone monitoring the continental scale flows of magic would have noticed something moving.
 
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