Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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We never asked. Ulgu dragons are basically a thread meme, never mentioned IC.
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
I suspect the mechanism for finding out if the jig is up will work similarly to the "coincidences" Mathilde triggered in the college library by, I think, thinking of stealing books.
This'll be the same just with a lot higher stakes, aka "don't think about thinking about running away screaming!"
(I just get giggles imagining a future scene where we'll have to convince the others on the way back NOT to go through the nice snow free pass)
edit: does Mathilde know the spell the Grey College uses to deliver their "so you stumbled onto the Scaven" packages?
Or Mindholing oneself to retrieve later?
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- Location
- Washington
If she's got basically any magical senses whatsoever, which as an ice wish she probably SHOULD, she can confirm the observations for herself if she really feels the need to be skeptical about chaos threats in the chaos wastes despite being a Kislevite.
Mathilde's magical senses have been called out as being exceptional. Most mages would not notice what she did therefore it is reasonable to assume the Ice Crone would not notice either. Also if Kislevites were in the habit of jumping to maximum paranoia every time someone mentioned Chaos Tzeench would have overthrown them long ago.
I would like to point a particular part of the update out to people:
That seems to indicate to me that this magic is not being put into a battery somewhere below to eventually power an uber ritual of doom. If it was, I am pretty sure that we would be able to feel those massive, massive battery banks with our magical senses, because I'm pretty sure that containing that much magic without a lot of spillage is impossible. Instead it seems more likely that it is maintaining some sort of persistent effect, constantly being used up to do something, thus preventing the magical flooding of the stone down in Karak Vlag.
That seems to indicate to me that this magic is not being put into a battery somewhere below to eventually power an uber ritual of doom. If it was, I am pretty sure that we would be able to feel those massive, massive battery banks with our magical senses, because I'm pretty sure that containing that much magic without a lot of spillage is impossible. Instead it seems more likely that it is maintaining some sort of persistent effect, constantly being used up to do something, thus preventing the magical flooding of the stone down in Karak Vlag.
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- Location
- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
If this really is Chaos, then planning is the worst thing we could do. A magic ritual this big is either Tzeentch, or Chaos Undivided. Either way, any plans made to counter Tzeentch will autofail with prejudice. Acting normal and retreating is exactly what you'd expect from someone who realized that there was a memetic defense here. Heck, if I was designing this then I'd put in a second layer of defense to try and turn "pretend this is normal" into "everything is normal" and make whoever discovered the first layer forget about it. /paranoia
Besides. We already know Mathilde's best countermeasure to Chaos: Gambling. And this time we've got a dragon weighing the odds in our favor.
[X] Stand your ground
Besides. We already know Mathilde's best countermeasure to Chaos: Gambling. And this time we've got a dragon weighing the odds in our favor.
[X] Stand your ground
- Location
- Washington
Mathilde's magical senses are exceptional but 'two hundred years of absorbed radiating waystone energy vs regular amounts of absorbed radiating energy' is not something I am remotely believe you need mathilde level senses to detect. That's multiple orders of magnitude difference. If someone can't sense a multiple order of magnitudes difference I don't believe they'd be able to do magic at all, even semi divine semi arcane magic.
She might need to be walked through the implications of the observations to overcome the notice-me-not but the observations themselves, if she can do magic she can make them.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
Considering that we can't sense anything "from within the stone", there might be a battery that we just can't see. The Waystone is just too deep and too strong for the effect to cover.
Sovereign Hunt
A Concentric Circle
- Location
- Bereft of Name
[X] Stand your ground
Despite the narrative relevance of not showing our hand, I'll go with this one just to contribute.
Also 'cause I want the voting to be called as soon as possible so that the anticipation doesn't literally kill me.
Despite the narrative relevance of not showing our hand, I'll go with this one just to contribute.
Also 'cause I want the voting to be called as soon as possible so that the anticipation doesn't literally kill me.
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You can read her struggling, you could see her almost not notice in spite of all the advantages she has.
- Location
- Austria
My first thought was to stand our ground, but against what exactly? There might be a portal in the mountain and maybe the mountain opens up just now and spews forth an army of chaos, we have to hold back?
That sounds kinda far fetched. Even if something wants to attack us, it would be a strange time for this. Nothing i read tells me that something is happening right now.
Personally I would return to the expedition, gather information and then return like a grey wizard (secretly) and look deeper into it.
That sounds kinda far fetched. Even if something wants to attack us, it would be a strange time for this. Nothing i read tells me that something is happening right now.
Personally I would return to the expedition, gather information and then return like a grey wizard (secretly) and look deeper into it.
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
I think Standing our Ground is not a good idea, because if there is a fight I don't think we can win against whatever can crawl out of the ground for this, we can maybe outrun it.
With acting or better said doing the best doublethinking of our life we have a chance of leaving the enemy in the belief that the disguise survived.
With acting or better said doing the best doublethinking of our life we have a chance of leaving the enemy in the belief that the disguise survived.
[X] Act normal
- Location
- Germany
[X] Stand your ground
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- Internet
[X] Stand your ground
- Location
- Australia
@BoneyM, what's the Amber Order like in Divided Loyalties? In canon, Shamans are misanthropic wildmen who shun civilisation. In DL they have academia, they can read and write, and though they stick to their ancient traditions, they have an advanced, Teclisian understanding of magic on par with the rest of the Colleges, unlike the Hedgewise, and they seem to give a crap about the Empire. From what I can tell, you've added to canon's depiction of Shamans rather than replaced it, but how do you reconcile that? How are they marked by being old school oral tradition guys and yet have literacy, scrolls, grimoires, and academia, especially inter-college academia? How do you have them reject humanity in favour of the wilds yet genuinely care about the Empire rather than merely having a mutual foe in Chaos? Like the other colleges, their magic is based on intellect and spellcraft and consequently is as deep and complex, but how do you make that mesh with their flavour as primitive and primal spellcasters?
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to quote Boney: the greatest achievement of the modern colleges was to get Dragomas to wear pants.
the Ambers can read and write because the other orders wont leave them along if they don't.
- Location
- Tarn-Vedra
[X] Stand your ground
[X] Act normal
She's a Grey. Not letting on that they knows until there's an action to take is their strength. Odds of something conveniently fightable manifesting right there are very low even if the bad thing is imminent. Poke around enough to get an opportunity to "stone is an excellent insulator of magic" and head back to the convoy. Then brief the wizards, runesmiths and ice witch.
She's a Grey. Not letting on that they knows until there's an action to take is their strength. Odds of something conveniently fightable manifesting right there are very low even if the bad thing is imminent. Poke around enough to get an opportunity to "stone is an excellent insulator of magic" and head back to the convoy. Then brief the wizards, runesmiths and ice witch.