Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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As a note, we don't know it's Chaos, we just theorize it is because we can't think of anything else that could take this amount of magic.
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- Australia
They will if we explain the situation to them. They're not mindless robots and they're not that stubborn.
There's also Cataclysm spells which are pretty crazy but require tons of magic (or possibly a lot of preptime).
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
Not that I believe it, but maybe Karak Dum shifted/is shifting some effect "down the waystone network" to save themselves.
Personally the setup just smells like someone that likes magic and *cough* stealing hope.
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
We're an honorary dwarf by now, fixing an Elgi's dumb mistakes do not count as a moral conumdrum.
Especially if it turns out the reason Thorgrim thought Karak Dum was a complete loss and didn't send adequate is because someone was blocking the waystone signal and sucking up all the magic.
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- Norway
I thought Transformation of Kadon was invented by Kadon, not Dragomas. Dragomas invented something like a Mastery for that spell.
I don't really count them, they need a certain environment to even work.
the thing about super dragon is that it's almost a Cataclysm spell at battle magic cost.
that's impressive.
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- Aotearoa
I think there are two separate unknown threats here- the strategic and the tactical.
The first is whatever long term strategic plan, two centuries in the making, has been siphoning off Dum Waystone magic and doing the memetics. This, as people have noted in and of itself, isn't likely to have been planned two centuries ago to go off in the next hour. If we're lucky, it won't be ready to trigger yet.
However, they've also had this warning something significant was coming, clearing the Pass weather for at least a few weeks now. Whatever countermeasure or defense they can muster against someone poking their long term goal- those seem to me to be what we'll be facing. Indeed, may already be triggered.
Again, these are both unknowns, but they're different unknowns, operating on different scales, and (hopefully) timescales. And hopefully, right now, we'll only be facing the tactical threat. If we get through that, then yes, there could perhaps be more time to drum up more big guns to deal with the long term strategic threat.
The question of fight or flight might come down to if we think whoever/whatever is doing this noticed Mathilde staring into the abyss just now, so as to trigger their countermeasures.
The first is whatever long term strategic plan, two centuries in the making, has been siphoning off Dum Waystone magic and doing the memetics. This, as people have noted in and of itself, isn't likely to have been planned two centuries ago to go off in the next hour. If we're lucky, it won't be ready to trigger yet.
However, they've also had this warning something significant was coming, clearing the Pass weather for at least a few weeks now. Whatever countermeasure or defense they can muster against someone poking their long term goal- those seem to me to be what we'll be facing. Indeed, may already be triggered.
Again, these are both unknowns, but they're different unknowns, operating on different scales, and (hopefully) timescales. And hopefully, right now, we'll only be facing the tactical threat. If we get through that, then yes, there could perhaps be more time to drum up more big guns to deal with the long term strategic threat.
The question of fight or flight might come down to if we think whoever/whatever is doing this noticed Mathilde staring into the abyss just now, so as to trigger their countermeasures.
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- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
What we need to do if figure out how to enchant catyclysm spells into items powered by AV, then start carrying around a fiddle.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
Say @BoneyM what is the usual procedure for situations where a Magister or Lord Magister has prior commitments they can't easily put aside temporarily but in the process find something potentially incredibly dangerous that could potentially require at bare minimum their full attention to solve?
They make a judgement call. There is no such thing as 'standard procedure' for Lord Magisters.
Darth.
Definitely a heretic
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- The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Correct me if I'm wrong but we can't actually use the Secrets of Dhar without it getting out that we read the Liber Mortis right? So maybe acting normal and pretending it isn't any of our business - passing the buck so to say - would be better than dying horribly to a Chaos rift.
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
I agree the strategic threat is beyond us. If there is a tactical threat I argue that they'd prefer to ambush us on the way back since that's when we're "bringing the loot". (Or we got eaten by the Wastes so need for them to reveal their hand)
Figure out a way to handle both, or failing that, figure out which one is a higher priority.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
Which, considering that Teclis and his posse have been staring at it for a bit, isn't likely.
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- Aotearoa
Well, then you have to balance up whether you think they noticed or suspected Mathilde's Windsight poking around enough to activate their trap now.
That was almost two hundred years ago, and also Teclis. Who apparantly didn't find anything amiss.
The tactical considerations were probably very different on whether to start a fight.
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- Alaska
*screams externally*
[X] Stand your ground
[X] Run like hell
Ok, if it was just her than I'd have no trouble with trying to bluff her way out, but here she'd be gambling with the entire expedition. She's a commander, I think she needs to make a call...or ante up, or whatever gambling term works best here.
[X] Stand your ground
[X] Run like hell
Ok, if it was just her than I'd have no trouble with trying to bluff her way out, but here she'd be gambling with the entire expedition. She's a commander, I think she needs to make a call...or ante up, or whatever gambling term works best here.
I mean it depends, is there anyone with magesight to realize what we just did?
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- Washington
If Borek doesn't accept that's too bad, but 100% the ice witch will accept because when this DOED go off the best case scenario is basically "kislev isn't the target but gets the lion's share of the crossfire" and I'm pretty sure basically everyone except Borik will at least roughly understand the danger '200 years of siphoned keystone magic' poses to the entire order aligned world. And that everyone notably includes Arsanil, who probably personally knows somebody who personally knows Teclis.
The buck does not stop here if this ritual isn't going to go off in the next week which given it's been going for 200 years, there is good reason to think it is not going to.
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- Australia
Making them fight a gigantically magical enemy is not the option that enhances the safety of the Expedition members.
They probably haven't.
Mathilde's magesight can't be too obvious and stone is an excellent insulator of magic.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
It was more that if whoever in the castle knew that the elf in question was Teclis and held off their attack due to that, and wasn't attacked in turn, which would suggest that Teclis didn't find anything. Thus if Teclis didn't find anything, why should they be concerned about yon rando wizard?
Except the part where the Ice witch would have to take it on faith that there is some massive magical danger based on what Mathilde could glimpse though miles of stone