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@BoneyM If Mathilde dies by literally changing the world and setting, are we still going there on the next Quest regardless?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Well it depends? How busy is Kragg, how willing is he to spend literal months on the road because Mathilde saw something out of the corner of her eye, especially since good solid dwarfs have looked at Vlag before and seen nothing, hell Teclis has looked at Vlag and seen nothing. That is not an argument for this being super urgent, for people who are not Mathilde that is and argument for Mathilde being wrong.
And your proof of this doomsayying is...?
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- Australia
He'd be very willing. He trusts her, in character, aptitude, and judgement. If Mathilde says "Please come", he will.
EDIT: By the way, gyrocopters are a thing, and while he's reluctant to get on them we know he's willing if there's good enough reason for it, and Mathilde asking him to make all haste would be good enough reason for him.
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I think people are not used to being the biggest stick.
we can't run to grandpa runelord for the rest of the quest.
right here, right now, we are the top expert.
no point crying about not having a teclic or Kragg around.
we are the Kragg now.
edit: ok, the elf and dragon are the Kragg right now, but not for magical shit.
we can't run to grandpa runelord for the rest of the quest.
right here, right now, we are the top expert.
no point crying about not having a teclic or Kragg around.
we are the Kragg now.
edit: ok, the elf and dragon are the Kragg right now, but not for magical shit.
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NexusEye
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Chaos controls the two points where all magic in the world comes out of and no doubt harvests large amounts of it and has done so for millennia and that still isn't enough to extend the Chaos Wastes down to the Empire. Compared to that the power output of the Waystones of one Karak is small potatoes.
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yes.
Because both Elves and Dwarves hype themselves up a lot.
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There is a time and place for this sort of talk and this is not it. The scale is big enough that getting higher level people involved is obligatory if it's possible to involve them, and given how long this has been going on we have the time to bring them in so long as we don't do anything exceptionally big and flashy like what we planned.
Omegahugger
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Right, that is a reasonable question.
Mathilde has only very recently been accepted into the Dawi dictionaries, despite the fact that the term has seen widespread use in the Karak-8-Peaks for almost a decade by now.
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- Utrecht
[×] Have Wolf write a letter to grandpa Kragg and Teclis senpai
So we put Kragg on a gyrocopter to what continue to look at the mountain. His senses are not going to let him confirm whatever we may or may not have seen though miles of rock.
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Leaving it could easily back fire.
Besides, we are a lord magister, we are supposed to be able to do this sort of shit!
But it is.
The argument is that we would be obligated to go get the best person around for the problem if we can.
As a LM, these days, that's going to be us
because the biggest stick around is us.
there is no one in range to 'pass it up'
Kragg was willing to receive Mathilde's advice on how to deploy his Anvil during the Caldera battle.
If she says there's something big at Vlag; then there might very well be something big happening at Vlag - at any rate the only people in the old world qualified to give a second opinion would be wizards in the Head of College tier and Runelords.
Darth.
Definitely a heretic
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- The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
[X] Stand your ground
I figure acting normal isn't going to be too helpful. Either it doesn't work in which case everyone including us gets taken off guard and dies, or it does work in which case we go away, and whoever that is carries out their plan and everyone dies.
On an unrelated note, does anyone know what happens if Mathilde perma-dies? Quest ends? Or something else?
I figure acting normal isn't going to be too helpful. Either it doesn't work in which case everyone including us gets taken off guard and dies, or it does work in which case we go away, and whoever that is carries out their plan and everyone dies.
On an unrelated note, does anyone know what happens if Mathilde perma-dies? Quest ends? Or something else?
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I will repeat myself because it is necessary to do so. We can call in help from afar. There is nothing to stop us from doing so and there is no indication that anything will happen unless we do something big and flashy. Tell me if you don't understand something that I just said.
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My bet is still on "Teclis 'repaired' the waystone network when he passed by, redirecting the flow from obviously doomed Dum, for however little time it would last, into the elf-feeding waystone network, hiding it in the process, and incidentally preventing the mountain for turning into a mess of magic-twisted chaos mountain a hundred years down the line. It's not like the continental primitives would ever notice anyway, it'd take too much effort to reconnect Dum to the Karaz Ankor network, and obviously the elves need that magic more than the dwarves, who (as far as he can tell) might not even be using it for anything."
But the mental effect still counts as an attack on dwarf scouts, and I can't ignore the Daemon possibility, so I'm in favor of raising the alarm.
That was about the fate of Dum, Boney mentioned that certain possibilities on that table wouldn't fit with this possible event at Vlag, presumably because the event requires that Dum still be sending energy down the Waystone network to Vlag.
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We are not bringing Kragg in to use his non-existent magesight, we're bringing him in because he's the best dispeller in the world and has the most powerful rune magic in the Karaz Ankor, both of which are relevant to this situation.
EDIT: Dragomas is similarly useful. He might not have our magesight, but he's a lot better at combat and wizardry than Mathilde, and has the full resources and personnel of all the Colleges of Magic available to him.
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And we are asking him to dispel what exactly? Something that exists behind miles of rock?
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- Australia
Whatever it is you plan to fight or attack or deal with. What do you think you're blowing the horn for? To add more eyeballs to stare at dead stone? No, it's so they can fight whatever horrible gribbly we plan to reveal.
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That's literally what the possibility of this being a new Chaos Rift means. The Chaos Wastes are defined by proximity to the fonts of Warp energy that are the Polar Rifts. If another rift opens this far south it's going to blast the entirety of Kislev and most of the Empire with Dhar by the bucket. And that's on top of reinforcing the already existent flows of Dhar that the Polar Rifts are pumping. Also possibly overwhelming the Vortex.
EDIT: Forget Teclis, the possibility of a new Chaos Rift endangering the Vortex would be enough to get every Loremaster of Hoeth in existence here.
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Whatever happen if Vlag doesnt magically pop back at the end. I'll be pushing for a joint College and runelord project to prod at it some more. I'm thinking a yearly expedition of 1-2 AP allocation as K8P Loremaster with company from Thorek or / and Kragg.
Not sure what side of the coin though, as if the Vlag dawi become aware of Mathilde self less act ™ it could bypass any Chaos fuckery were their runelord to unknowingly work against any Wizards/runelord on the outside.
Panoramia could probably help us get friends, family, and aquiantancies knowledgeable in the waystones atleast.
Not sure what side of the coin though, as if the Vlag dawi become aware of Mathilde self less act ™ it could bypass any Chaos fuckery were their runelord to unknowingly work against any Wizards/runelord on the outside.
Panoramia could probably help us get friends, family, and aquiantancies knowledgeable in the waystones atleast.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
I'm still holding on to that this might just be a very thorough illusion. There might be a lot less rock than is suspected.
Especially since Mathilde might sub-consciously see through it.
Especially since Mathilde might sub-consciously see through it.