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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Greet and get to know the Wizards joining the Expedition as they arrive at Praag.
We're pretty much the head wizard honcho for a dwarven expedition once again, thanks to also being a member of K8P council and a co-organizer. Getting to know what they can do will make it much easier to use whatever talents they have.

[X] Spell name - Rite of Way
I love the puns, but I also like the idea of finally having a spell WITHOUT the name referring to Mathilde. Kinda shows that there's a bit more maturity there, worthy of the new rank.

[X] Stirland, to see for yourself how the war against Sylvania is progressing.
I want closure dammit! Besides, it's on the way to Praag without too much of a detour.

[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
I mean, they should at least occasionally get a check-up. It's kinda our job.
 
Shovern said:
The new design actually puts a bit more emphasis and weight behind the Dum symbol comparitivly, with the slightly lengthened reach and all that.

Also if you're going to integrate that fold in at the ends then maybe they should be "Brought in" like they are on all the other Dwarf emblems. (Not saying that'd even be any better or worse on artistic merits, but it is more traditional which makes it better by Dwarf merits.) And there's a missing corner near the knot, and I noticed your version has both the Karak and Dum symbols smaller... This is starting to sound bossy and overly critical so I'll make the edits myself.


Steel Gray Version as well:
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Quick edit to shrink the star a lot and also give it a more flag-y aspect ratio to see what it would look like. Nothing precise, just quickly done in MS Paint.

 
So, quick question: from my understanding of RoW, it was intended as a pun on the verb form of row—such as Mathilde rowing across rivers or something—not the noun. Was I an idiot for forgetting that row is also a noun, and much better fitting in that form? Or did we all collectively overly miss it? Because it felt awkward whenever I looked at it, and I thought I was missing something, but I can't remember seeing anything that would make me think of the noun either...
 
Ericwinter said:
So, quick question: from my understanding of RoW, it was intended as a pun on the verb form of row—such as Mathilde rowing across rivers or something—not the noun. Was I an idiot for forgetting that row is also a noun, and much better fitting in that form? Or did we all collectively overly miss it? Because it felt awkward whenever I looked at it, and I thought I was missing something, but I can't remember seeing anything that would make me think of the noun either...
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It's a pun on "right of way".
 
One thing to keep in mind, this is meant to be an avatar, which means all the major aspects should be visible even when it is in avatar size, like you see to your left.

EDIT: Also most Dwarf Emblems have a consistant band size, with only Karak Hirn really breaking that rule by shrinking it an ounce at the lip of their horn.
 
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Ericwinter said:
So, quick question: from my understanding of RoW, it was intended as a pun on the verb form of row—such as Mathilde rowing across rivers or something—not the noun. Was I an idiot for forgetting that row is also a noun, and much better fitting in that form? Or did we all collectively overly miss it? Because it felt awkward whenever I looked at it, and I thought I was missing something, but I can't remember seeing anything that would make me think of the noun either...
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Rite of way is a name with many possible puns. To me the first thing I thought of when I saw the name Rite of Way is the phrase right of way.
 
Karag Pac-Dawi.
waka waka waka waka
fictionfan said:
Especially given Panorama didn't bother touching them for years.
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Ericwinter said:
That's what I mean by our impetus. Both times any study has been done into these things, it was because Mathilde knocked on her door and asked, essentially.
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Seems a trifle unfair to blame an NPC for not taking an action from the protagonist list in a PC-driven quest.
veekie said:
Everyone is joining at Praag.
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Asarnil was intending to wait for them at a border town in Ostland, as I recall.
BoneyM said:
"Oh, them. Every time I go there, Deathfang gets weird looks from a bunch of half-naked Dwarves, like they're starving dogs looking at a banquet. We'll make ourselves comfortable in Bechafen until we're needed."
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Alliterate said:
Seems a trifle unfair to blame an NPC for not taking an action from the protagonist list in a PC-driven quest.
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Haven't we lost actions before due to lost opportunities? I mean, sure, if the Waaaghsoak had been "ours", or Panoramia actually worked for us, that would be one thing. But the action was about poking Panoramia into getting a move on with one of her projects, not asking for help with one of ours. At least, if I'm remembering that correctly. Considering she's had the things for several years, she really should have done at least a little bit more with them, especially since Boney doesn't really write a static world where everything depends on us doing stuff.
 
Alliterate said:
If that bothers you, I have some bad news.

M.(istress of Mushrooms) W.(right of Way)
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I'm fine with a bunch for Mathilde, those are (from my perspective) earned. They refer to events and deeds that we were all there for.

This random wanker called Settra has a bunch of them, and it seems to be a shtick more than anything else, and I don't find it funny. It's tiresome and boring. And I do not forgive boring.
 
Alliterate said:
Seems a trifle unfair to blame an NPC for not taking an action from the protagonist list in a PC-driven quest.
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Part of me wishes that leaving stuff undone for too long would make someone else do it instead.

Don't study mushrooms with Pan? Well Pan did on her own, no favour for you.
Don't study lightning mchanism with Adela? Adela did it solo, no favour for you.
Ignored a paper too long? Someone else wrote something similar, less or no favour for you.

Though i suspect it would cause not a small amount of complaining and screaming matches.
 
Ericwinter said:
I mean, sure, if the Waaaghsoak had been "ours", or Panoramia actually worked for us, that would be one thing. But the action was about poking Panoramia into getting a move on with one of her projects, not asking for help with one of ours. At least, if I'm remembering that correctly.
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My recollection was that they were always a shared project between the two of us, I've definitely been willing to extend more credit on that basis.
But that may be mistaken, it's been a while since Karag Lhune.

E: Wording was a little ambiguous.
BoneyM said:
She's also spent some time in the depths of Karag Lhune, and though she spent a great deal of time complaining that fungi and flora were supposedly as different as plants and animals, she's found a great deal to be interested in in a variety of mushrooms valued by Night Goblins for its ability to absorb ambient magical energies. The Goblins tap into those energies by consuming the mushrooms, which would be the stupidest idea you've ever heard if it weren't for a great deal of other greenskin ideas you've had the misfortune of hearing. Panoramia believes the mushroom might have non-stupid applications, and your curiosity is definitely piqued. Something to follow up after the battle.
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Panoramia definitely identified them, but the framing of the follow-up action looked like one Mathilde made a note to pursue.
 
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Ericwinter said:
So, quick question: from my understanding of RoW, it was intended as a pun on the verb form of row—such as Mathilde rowing across rivers or something—not the noun. Was I an idiot for forgetting that row is also a noun, and much better fitting in that form? Or did we all collectively overly miss it? Because it felt awkward whenever I looked at it, and I thought I was missing something, but I can't remember seeing anything that would make me think of the noun either...
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Oh! I think I see what you are saying! Like, when you line your army up in a row to get somewhere quickly? I do think that is a new one.
 
The knot in the bottom-right bothers me; you end up with a bunch of negative space between the curl and the base of the mountain on the left and a complicated cramped thingy in the lower-right. Not sure how to fix it. Maybe move the cross-over into the middle somehow? Or bring the curl on the left in somehow...
 
ChronOblivion said:
Was actually pulling straight from Word of God there.



EDIT: Weber'd
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About Mathilde's Windsight:
These are my recollections of Word Of BonyM:

"She does not have the depth of perception that one could achieve from living a life that has one channeling their wind for 100+ years"
"She does have an unusual breadth of perception, in that regard she is in the top 5(?) of human wizards currently alive"

I do not recall if her Avatar trait is part of this, but I think it is.


ChronOblivion said:
Broke: Kill the Horned Rat and his greatest servants to free the Skaven from their cruel reign.

Woke: Kill the Horned Rat and his greatest servants to make the "Grey Seer" title available for you to take.
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Bespoke: Kill the Horned Rat and rehabilitate his greatest servants to make a new "High Chief Grey Seer" title available for you to take


Neshuakadal said:
See. This is a reason to kill the horned rat. Not some Hocus pocus about morals. No. We want the best titles, so he has to go.
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Deicide. Do it for morals or to get best titles...

"Why not both?"

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Edit: @Shovern I really like how the outline of the karak is thicker than the chaos outline.
 
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Avatar size is sufficiently different from flag size that I'd recommend doing two versions with similar symbology. Same problem you run into with computer icons. The borders in particular need to be proportionally much thicker at smaller sizes. Might think about increasing the weight of the ribbons themselves too?
 
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